Health, Good Practises, and Exercise

[44267547]

I hesitate to call it an addiction or an obsession because of it’s mostly positive qualities, if not overdone. It’s a lifestyle!

The Way I see it, it’s a healthy addiction. I have reached a point where workouts for me have become an integral part of my daily routine. And it’s ingrained in my mind where I have to have accomplish my workouts every single day, because it’s partly a goal and it’s also my passion. So that’s why I classify it as an addiction in the sense of how it correlates with my own livelihood. None the less, it’s all positive.

 

[0388631]

I suppose. It gives me room to continue eating steak and other questionable foods you're supposed to cut back on once you're past your thirties, but hey, doctor says I've got an excellent bill of health. I've adopted some new age crap, too. Like chia seeds. You can make a makeshift "pudding" out of them. Taste is somewhat bland but it's fun to eat. Sort of like tapioca but not as tasty. Decent macro and micro nutrients, plus it's fiber and has some omegas, even if the conversion is pretty poor. Using an ounce of it or even 15 grams is akin to eating a large bran muffin if you catch my drift.

 

[A.Goldberg]

The Way I see it, it’s a healthy addiction. I have reached a point where workouts for me have become an integral part of my daily routine. And it’s ingrained in my mind where I have to have accomplish my workouts every single day, because it’s partly a goal and it’s also my passion. So that’s why I classify it as an addiction in the sense of how it correlates with my own livelihood. None the less, it’s all positive.

There’s no such thing as a healthy addiction. I’ve seen people in clinical practice who could be classified as having an exercise addiction. It’s very sad, exercising past the point of injury, extreme anxiety over not exercising, ruining relationships over needing to get to gym, etc. Oftentimes it presents with body dysmorphic disorder, bulemia, anorexia, etc.

 

[Huntn]

There’s no such thing as a healthy addiction. I’ve seen people in clinical practice who could be classified as having an exercise addiction. It’s very sad, exercising past the point of injury, extreme anxiety over not exercising, ruining relationships over needing to get to gym, etc. Oftentimes it presents with body dysmorphic disorder, bulemia, anorexia, etc.

I agree but would not place bulimia and anorexia in the same classification as a routine workout lifestyle which I don’t think you are doing. The key aspect is excess and balancing the activity within the framework of one’s life. Not claiming to be a health care expert.

I would make a distinction between a routine that relies on physical exercise vs one that focuses on the excessive elimination of calories as a means of controlling weight. I’ll observe that routine exercise, and excessive exercise to the point of damage, depending on circumstances could both be classified as obsessive, with the former example depending on degrees of obsessiveness and the degree of negative social impact as you mentioned.

I would hesitate to categorized exercise as an addiction, because it would have the effect of self curbing the behavior due to injury and as a rule is not life threatening, althiugh at least one famous runner killed himself running. The two terms are related, a matter of degrees with obsessive behavior possibly leading to addiction which is more frequently associated with chemical dependence.

https://www.addictions.com/news/addiction-vs-obsession-whats-the-difference/

 

[44267547]

There’s no such thing as a healthy addiction..

I literally was referring to a figure of speech, nothing more. It’s Based on how I view fitness correlates into my own lifestyle, Contrary to your own beliefs.

It’s very sad, exercising past the point of injury, extreme anxiety over not exercising, ruining relationships over needing to get to gym, etc. Oftentimes it presents with body dysmorphic disorder, bulemia, anorexia, etc.

Which none of this applies to me in any aspect. I’m not saying there are not concerns or issues that others who might struggle based on what leads them to reach a certain point of what is considered an addiction, Because what you listed does certainly exist. There is a show that I Watched in the past called “Intervention”, one episode depicted a man who literally would exercise six times a day and go to the gym between 3/4 times within a 24 hour span. That would be classified as an additiction and someone who is struggling with a mental health issue, at least one example of it.

In relation to my own lifestyle, physical fitness is one of my top three priorities in my life. Both on duty and off duty, it’s crucial for me to stay in physical shape for my chosen profession. I feel I am held to a higher standard and I want to emphasize my regiment through my profession by staying healthy and fit. I work in all types of environments, varying encounters with individuals who have mental issues and substance users, ect. I train differently than most Would based on differing scenarios. The City I work for a has high rate of alcoholics and substance users who are unstable and can alter their behavior instantly. All that matters to me, is challenge myself mentally and physically, but also adding that accruing plenty of rest is vital as well to manage a shift for focus.

 

[0388631]

Injury recovery, bad weather, work and personal matters have taken away exercise time. The last time I felt this out of shape was during the great waffle escapades. While I did shed some weight from restricting myself during the holidays, not exercising much has been dire for my cardiovascular health.

I'm probably going to invest in some type of indoor cardio equipment so I can stop making excuses of it being too wet outside or not having time here and there. This happened after dinner, but I haven't been feeling fit for a short while now. It's been close to six months since I stopped being active on a very regular basis. So, that'll do it.

Almost poetic considering I replaced the expired bottle of Bayer I keep in the kitchen a couple weeks ago.

 

[einmusiker]

Over the last 3 months I’ve lost 22 lbs and am feeling great. Exercising every day and eating well. Big changes were 1. Only drinking water no sugary drinks 2. Signed up to run a spartan sprint next month for motivation. 3, got on the Fitbit bandwagon

 

[Huntn]

Over the last 3 months I’ve lost 22 lbs and am feeling great. Exercising every day and eating well. Big changes were 1. Only drinking water no sugary drinks 2. Signed up to run a spartan sprint next month for motivation. 3, got on the Fitbit bandwagon

My wife bought me a Fitbit, if I can remember to wear it while swimming. I realize the idea is that you are supposed to wear it all the time.
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I literally was referring to a figure of speech, nothing more. It’s Based on how I view fitness correlates into my own lifestyle, Contrary to your own beliefs.



Which none of this applies to me in any aspect. I’m not saying there are not concerns or issues that others who might struggle based on what leads them to reach a certain point of what is considered an addiction, Because what you listed does certainly exist. There is a show that I Watched in the past called “Intervention”, one episode depicted a man who literally would exercise six times a day and go to the gym between 3/4 times within a 24 hour span. That would be classified as an additiction and someone who is struggling with a mental health issue, at least one example of it.

In relation to my own lifestyle, physical fitness is one of my top three priorities in my life. Both on duty and off duty, it’s crucial for me to stay in physical shape for my chosen profession. I feel I am held to a higher standard and I want to emphasize my regiment through my profession by staying healthy and fit. I work in all types of environments, varying encounters with individuals who have mental issues and substance users, ect. I train differently than most Would based on differing scenarios. The City I work for a has high rate of alcoholics and substance users who are unstable and can alter their behavior instantly. All that matters to me, is challenge myself mentally and physically, but also adding that accruing plenty of rest is vital as well to manage a shift for focus.

I knew of guys in the military who took running to the extent of knee replacements. So if not a addiction, too much of a good thing. Not saying this is you.

 

[D.T.]

Over the last 3 months I’ve lost 22 lbs and am feeling great. Exercising every day and eating well. Big changes were 1. Only drinking water no sugary drinks 2. Signed up to run a spartan sprint next month for motivation. 3, got on the Fitbit bandwagon

Outstanding, that's a good, healthy loss rate (~1.8/week is solid, even factoring in some initial water weight loss). That's substantial enough (obv. depending on starting weight, height, etc.), that you are really feeling a positive impact.

 

[Gutwrench]

 

[44267547]

I knew of guys in the military who took running to the extent of knee replacements. So if not a addiction, too much of a good thing. Not saying this is you.

I certainly don’t run long enough distances where it would cause any type of physical injury to my body, which knowing your physical limits is crucial and different for everyone. My workouts are a combination of heavy weightlifting, push-ups and cardio. [Which I am a very experienced weight lifter/runner.]

The Most important thing to me for my workouts is _consistency_. And that means challenging myself in new Ways and staying motivated, as I know it’s to better myself mentally and physically.

I believe I said this before, my specific Theory for L.E. Officers is “If you work it, you train in it”. So for me, that means I train my Body in all type of environments and weather changes, but I stay physically fit because it makes gives me positive stamina and I’m confident I can overcome any unknown challenges.

 

[Huntn]

I certainly don’t run long enough distances where it would cause any type of physical injury to my body, which knowing your physical limits is crucial and different for everyone. My workouts are a combination of heavy weightlifting, push-ups and cardio. [Which I am a very experienced weight lifter/runner.]

The Most important thing to me for my workouts is _consistency_. And that means challenging myself in new Ways and staying motivated, as I know it’s to better myself mentally and physically.

I believe I said this before, my specific Theory for L.E. Officers is “If you work it, you train in it”. So for me, that means I train my Body in all type of environments and weather changes, but I stay physically fit because it makes gives me positive stamina and I’m confident I can overcome any unknown challenges.

Just keep in mind damage to knees is subtle and take a decade or more to manifest.

 

[vkd]

The best health advice is to stop eating animal products, meat, dairy, etc. Of course this is hard, nigh on impossible, advice for large swathes of people to comprehend, what to speak of implement but there you go. The truth is out!

 

[44267547]

Just keep in mind damage to knees is subtle and take a decade or more to manifest.

Which must be originating from when you said i “I knew of Guys in the military who took running to the extent of needing knee Replacements”, nor do I run to that extent whatsoever. As I mentioned in my previous post, _knowing your body limits is crucial_, which also Means respecting your body limits to not overly exert either.

Also, having regular Check Up’s (Twice a year) with a physician is also key to Sharing any issues Someone might be experiencing during their workouts and ways to mitigate/avoid any further problems that can arise. Which also includes Advising them of what type of workout Someone conducts with specifc routines.

 

[1050792]

The best health advice is to stop eating animal products, meat, dairy, etc. Of course this is hard, nigh on impossible, advice for large swathes of people to comprehend, what to speak of implement but there you go. The truth is out!

And lose 90% of the important nutrients to the Human body found on meat and dairy products? I see...

 

[D.T.]

The best health advice is to stop eating animal products, meat, dairy, etc. Of course this is hard, nigh on impossible, advice for large swathes of people to comprehend, what to speak of implement but there you go. The truth is out!

I see, I'll let all my buddies in my Tri/IM groups, my Cross Fit folks, etc., know they should stop with the lean protein. Thanks!

 

[Lioness~]

Agree to some part with vkd, but I think it matters more how nutritional and alcaline our food is to be healthy, then putting up a system someone else have created. Every time of our lives and training have its own lessons to find out what works for our own needs in various periods.

I am mostly on plant based food.
I’m a huge consumer of fruits, greens and herbs.
But my protein I mostly take in through dairy/whey/casein.
I eat to be healthy, and what works for me, in different parts of life.

Plenty of top athletes don’t eat meat, and are doing just fine on mostly plant based diets.
So to you who don’t think it works, study what the best actually do.

I am not trying to fit into some restricted plan that someone else have created. What works for one person, doesn’t work for someone else.
Health and training have always been a huge interest for me all through life.
I don’t need doctors. I eat to be healthy, and to cure what might go wrong in various stressful periods.

So glad that I’m getting back to into my Ashtanga practice again.
After a period of other training because I wasn’t in a place where I could keep up my practice alone. Much more focused now.

We have no authorized teachers in my city, so I’m on my own.
I know who the others are, they are no good.
It’s a complex system, and the difference between a real teacher with certification or authorization and those others are the difference between truth and lies, light and dark. I’m sure there are greyzones too, as in everything.
My teacher however, is on the other side of the world.
So now I’ve made a deal with myself. If I am good with my practice, I’ll treat myself with a great sweaty Ashtanga holiday where she is later

Will be easier now to keep practice up now when spring is here, and summer and the heat are coming.

 

[mscriv]

What works for one person, doesn’t work for someone else.

I eat to be healthy, and to cure what might go wrong in various stressful periods.

This is crucial. I like what you said above @Lioness~

The key to good health is understanding and learning how to manage our relationship with food and activity. Do we eat for sustenance and health or do we use food in some other way like mood regulation, stress reduction, identity struggle, punishment and reward or even addiction. Healthy activity is the same, are you stagnant or active? Do you exercise for the sake of health or is the idea of exercise difficult for you? Do you enjoy a sport, have an active hobby, or work in a physically demanding field?

We are all different and so we each have to find what works for us. However, that doesn't mean health is a solo journey that you make in isolation. Consult your doctors and medical professionals. Join with others for information, motivation, encouragement, and accountability. Engage your family in your health goals and find ways to do things together like meal planning, shopping, cooking, exercise, and play.

The time will come where age and it's effects on us will limit or in some cases extremely damage our health. Don't speed that process up, but fight against it by taking ownership of your life and intentionally working to be as healthy can you can in all areas, mind, body, and spirit.

 

[vkd]

I see, I'll let all my buddies in my Tri/IM groups, my Cross Fit folks, etc., know they should stop with the lean protein. Thanks!

Go for it. What's the obsession with protein? Are they looking to compete in Mr. Olympia? Because if they're not you can rest assured that basically ALL food contains protein to one degree or another. Not that you need that much either, just enough for basic muscle maintenance.
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And lose 90% of the important nutrients to the Human body found on meat and dairy products? I see...

There is absolutely nothing contained in dead animal products nor animal byproducts (dairy) that are not available in other food products.

 

[1050792]

Go for it. What's the obsession with protein? Are they looking to compete in Mr. Olympia? Because if they're not you can rest assured that basically ALL food contains protein to one degree or another. Not that you need that much either, just enough for basic muscle maintenance.
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There is absolutely nothing contained in dead animal products nor animal byproducts (dairy) that are not available in other food products.

A huge percentage of the needed proteins in the human body are found in animal meat.

 

[D.T.]

Go for it. What's the obsession with protein? Are they looking to compete in Mr. Olympia? Because if they're not you can rest assured that basically ALL food contains protein to one degree or another. Not that you need that much either, just enough for basic muscle maintenance.

Sounds like you know a lot about this, I'll pass on your professional insight!

 

[turbineseaplane]

A huge percentage of the needed proteins in the human body are found in animal meat.

Such as?
Where are you sourcing that from?

(I was Paleo - Mark Sisson style - for 5 years and now have been plant based for the last 3 - couldn't be happier - been world changing for me)

 

[1050792]

Such as?
Where are you sourcing that from?

(I was Paleo - Mark Sisson style - for 5 years and now have been plant based for the last 3 - couldn't be happier - been world changing for me)

For example 90% of the food our ancestors have eaten for centuries?

 

[turbineseaplane]

For example 90% of the food our ancestors have eaten for centuries?

That's a different subject (lots of things have been eaten over time, especially in different regions, so just saying "our ancestors" is already a bit too non-specific)..

You said..

A huge percentage of the needed proteins in the human body are found in animal meat.

Which proteins?
Where you sourcing that information?

I'm genuinely asking
As I said, I've been on both extremes of this, so always looking to learn more.

 

[1050792]

That's a different subject..

You said..



Which proteins?
Where you sourcing that information?

I'm genuinely asking

I'm sourcing this information from many doctors and nutritionists I spoke before.
Proteins such as isoleucine which stimulates the growth and repair of the muscle tissues. and threonine which produces antibodies.