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Huntn

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Day Six into my new regiment and going strong. This is just part of Relentless Power’s new Protein- based bodybuilding meal plan. :D

Various types of protein drinks and bars, [as mentioned], I consume lots of milk, at least 3 gallons a week, three dozen eggs, oatmeal, a variety type of protein-based pasta, three bags of chicken breasts and a five pound tub of Annex Elite protein muscle builder.

Oh... And not pictured here, but included in my weekly B.B intake includes:

~ locally sourced Duck eggs.
~ Tuna steaks/salmon
~ Lean beef and ‘Flat’ steaks
~ Fresh Guacamole

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Annex is Awesome stuff and only the best. I prefer to mix this with milk, otherwise you can even sprinkle a little bit is on top of oatmeal, or whole-grain cereal, a little bit goes a long whey. (<--Pun intended).

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When you say body building, what is your primary focus- weight loss or muscle building? As someone who is 65 and trying to loose weight, through exercise and diet, I’m not sure how protein fits in.
 

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When you say body building, what is your primary focus- weight loss or muscle building? As someone who is 65 and trying to loose weight, through exercise and diet, I’m not sure how protein fits in.

Good question. My ultimate goal is muscle gains, in order to do that, I have to increase my caloric intake with heavy protein based meals and convert the necessary energy into muscle mass that my body can process after a heavy lift session.

For Example: When I go to the gym for at least two hours, I lift to the point of ‘failure’ or where the specific muscle groups I am targeting is completely exhausted and when I complete my workout for the day, my muscles are literally screaming that they are requiring replenishment, in order for your muscles to rejuvenate properly with growth, they need the proper proteins/supplements to build through foods I posted above in the picture, followed by adequate rest to recover.

I believe In your case of trying to lose weight in general and eating healthy, subsitituing beneficial proteins that are nutritious for your body such as lean steaks, poultry, fish, nuts, ect. However, You’re not lifting weights to the point of what I’m doing to basically shock/ tear down the muscles to exhaustion, which is way beyond what most do in their normal routine for physical exercise.
 
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Ultimately, my goal is to put on 20 pounds of muscle over the course of the next year, (Which bodybuilding is interval progressive) but I will conduct six week evaluations to see were I am physically during this time frame.

So not the exact six week interval yet (Just over two weeks/12 gym visits/3 Hours average per visit), but want to share my experiences thus far:

This is probably one of the toughest challenges I have ever taken upon myself in terms of the actual commitment, but not the motivation, mindset or drive where I have excelled in, which typically can be opposite for some. The time commitment has taken away for me to want to attend other events in my life, but this is what it takes to do this and I won’t stop. (I guess my username is fitting here :D).

I’m averaging approximately 4 to 5 days a week in the gym and my cardio is still outside, but I have cut down on my cardio from running every day to almost every other day. I Find myself actually spending approximately longer durations with 2.5–3 hours in the gym versus where I estimated approximate two hours as an average, mainly because is *that* much work involved in my regiment.

I’m generally sore every day, and I give 110%, I’m laser focused when I am in the gym, which surprisingly I thought there would be more distractions, but there isn’t for me.

My weekly Routine is chest one day, triceps/biceps on a separate day, back/ shoulders on another day, and legs on the fourth cardio, rest on the fifth, return back to the gym on the sixth, repeat, ect.

My Eating habits are outstanding and on par, I have never really been a big eater, so I’m trying to break my meals up incrementally throughout the day with my protein intake with tuna, eggs, drinking milk heavily, protein bars, lots of chicken, mixed with healthy vegetables like broccoli mixed with rice. And by the way, all this food actually really appeals to me anyways in my diet and was never really obscure to begin with, so this was a fairly easy transition for me already In this area. Things I’m learning to try to do is include some type of protein before my workout, but I actually prefer working on a lighter stomach, which if I eat anything, it’s usually maybe half a protein bar before my workout, but I can’t force myself to eat a major meal like some BB’s do before the work out, as I feel that slows me down and I would rather refuel after my work out when I need it most.

Oh and speaking of bodybuilders, I’m following some notable bodybuilders in the industry one from the UK area currently, and of course the classics like Dave Draper, Ferrigno, Arnold, the guys who made the blueprint to BB to what it is today, who I want emulate their workout path by studying in what they have accomplished for themself and how they lay everything out that you would want to know in and out of the Gym, recovery, supplement, ect.

What I learned so far is that this is really hard work, and I mean like...[Uber] hard, but I realize that this is going to pay off for me in terms of my goals set and I have to push through. I think when I read these documentaries, watch these tutorial videos, see were some of these bodybuilders have had years of lifting experience to achieve what they have, they make it seem easy, and it’s not, at all, and there is no beginner path on this course. Coming into this, I already had the foundation of having the lifting experience, now I need to start building the groundwork upwards, But with the right amount of discipline, eating habits, I think my goal can be achieved in timeframe I have set.

One thing I like to do for recovery, is go swimming, which I find that a cooler environment in the water really helps soothe and relax the muscles. So after my work out tomorrow, I plan on going to my cottage and go swimming.

But looking at the year in advance, only less than a year to go. :D.
 
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Broke the 250 mark today bringing my four month weight loss to 65 lbs and one more inch off the waist. Started adding IF to the no carb diet. Eat everything for the day within 8 hours and nothing for the remaining 16 hours. Seems to be helping. Gotta go eat some more meat now.
 

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Broke the 250 mark today bringing my four month weight loss to 65 lbs and one more inch off the waist. Started adding IF to the no carb diet. Eat everything for the day within 8 hours and nothing for the remaining 16 hours. Seems to be helping. Gotta go eat some more meat now.
That is an excellent combination for weight loss — and general health and well being.

Personally I do Keto and IF (One meal a day). Not for weight loss, 5'6" and 129lbs, but keeping carbs low has huge benefits.

Good luck!
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My impression is that Oates are good
He was a fine chap indeed.

After reading about bread, I know that flour is not the best. but what about whole wheat products?

On topic.
Do some research about the ill effects wheat and grains have on humans… I cut out all grains a decade ago and flourished.
 
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That is an excellent combination for weight loss — and general health and well being.

Personally I do Keto and IF (One meal a day). Not for weight loss, 5'6" and 129lbs, but keeping carbs low has huge benefits.

Good luck!
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He was a fine chap indeed.



On topic.
Do some research about the ill effects wheat and grains have on humans… I cut out all grains a decade ago and flourished.
I have drastically cut back on my grain consumption.
[doublepost=1533042815][/doublepost]Probiotics- I read and discussed artificial sweetness a while back. The idea that they could adversely effect your gut bacteria, producing possible cravings that lead to weight gain, got me interested in probiotics. I purchased a 100 day supply and am almost finished it. The idea is that this product reintroduces healthy bacteria back into your digestive system. https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/what-are-probiotics#1

Well, I’ve almost finished them, and it’s hard for me to tell it has made any difference. I’m not inclined to keep taking them just because...

Thoughts on this?
 
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I have drastically cut back on my grain consumption.
Give it a go for a good few weeks — especially as we grow older (54 here) things like joint pain and arthritis start creeping in. Those are the areas cutting back on grains have had huge effect on myself and others.

Then, once you've got the grains under control, you can start eliminating sugar! :D
 

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Give it a go for a good few weeks — especially as we grow older (54 here) things like joint pain and arthritis start creeping in. Those are the areas cutting back on grains have had huge effect on myself and others.

Then, once you've got the grains under control, you can start eliminating sugar! :D
I never felt better in my life after eliminating sugar. I was downing 3 bottles of pepsi plus candy a day. And had headaches and back/leg pain from a bulging disc. TWO DAYS after giving up sugar, almost all the pain went away. Still have slight pain every now and then from disc but I am able to sleep on my left side without pain, something I haven't been able to do in over 20 years!
 

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I have drastically cut back on my grain consumption.
[doublepost=1533042815][/doublepost]Probiotics- I read and discussed artificial sweetness a while back. The idea that they could adversely effect your gut bacteria, producing possible cravings that lead to weight gain, got me interested in probiotics. I purchased a 100 day supply and am almost finished it. The idea is that this product reintroduces healthy bacteria back into your digestive system. https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/what-are-probiotics#1

Well, I’ve almost finished them, and it’s hard for me to tell it has made any difference. I’m not inclined to keep taking them just because...

Thoughts on this?
Personally I think many of these probiotic supplements are a waste of money.

Just eat some decent Greek yogurt — like FAGE.

Some (unpasteurised) Sauerkraut or Kimchi is great…

Also gardening is good. Lots of good stuff comes through your hands from the earth.

We live in a world so denuded of many beneficial things because we're too focused on killing the bad ones. *sigh*
 
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Give it a go for a good few weeks — especially as we grow older (54 here) things like joint pain and arthritis start creeping in. Those are the areas cutting back on grains have had huge effect on myself and others.

Then, once you've got the grains under control, you can start eliminating sugar! :D

We were in The Keys for a week, and while we were constantly on the go (especially all the lobster/reef dives we made), as you might imagine, we were in no holds barred consumption mode (first day of lobster season, breakfast beer at 8am ... :D)

So this week, starting yesterday, no/very low carbs, lots of protein, healthy fats, veggies, no booze .. doing this through Saturday, kind of a just a reset after the excess. Salads and protein every night, been getting these fantastic "super / protein / rebel" greens mixes from Organic Girl (arugula, chard, baby spinach, sweet pea leaves, baby bok choy), homemade dressing + chicken, salmon, lobster), eggs and extra lean unprocessed bacon (same for all our meats).

Actually feels good to flip things 180º for a few days, honestly, I can only sustain the other mode for about 5-6 days tops :)


Per the bold :cool:

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We were in The Keys for a week, and while we were constantly on the go (especially all the lobster/reef dives we made), as you might imagine, we were in no holds barred consumption mode (first day of lobster season, breakfast beer at 8am ... :D)

So this week, starting yesterday, no/very low carbs, lots of protein, healthy fats, veggies, no booze .. doing this through Saturday, kind of a just a reset after the excess. Salads and protein every night, been getting these fantastic "super / protein / rebel" greens mixes from Organic Girl (arugula, chard, baby spinach, sweet pea leaves, baby bok choy), homemade dressing + chicken, salmon, lobster), eggs and extra lean unprocessed bacon (same for all our meats).

Actually feels good to flip things 180º for a few days, honestly, I can only sustain the other mode for about 5-6 days tops :)


Per the bold :cool:

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That looks really good. :)
 

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Personally I think many of these probiotic supplements are a waste of money.

Just eat some decent Greek yogurt — like FAGE.

Some (unpasteurised) Sauerkraut or Kimchi is great…

Also gardening is good. Lots of good stuff comes through your hands from the earth.

We live in a world so denuded of many beneficial things because we're too focused on killing the bad ones. *sigh*
My understanding is the issue with yogurt is that the beneficial bacteria does not make it though your stomach acids. The pills I have been taking are designed to make it past the stomach intact.
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We were in The Keys for a week, and while we were constantly on the go (especially all the lobster/reef dives we made), as you might imagine, we were in no holds barred consumption mode (first day of lobster season, breakfast beer at 8am ... :D)

So this week, starting yesterday, no/very low carbs, lots of protein, healthy fats, veggies, no booze .. doing this through Saturday, kind of a just a reset after the excess. Salads and protein every night, been getting these fantastic "super / protein / rebel" greens mixes from Organic Girl (arugula, chard, baby spinach, sweet pea leaves, baby bok choy), homemade dressing + chicken, salmon, lobster), eggs and extra lean unprocessed bacon (same for all our meats).

Actually feels good to flip things 180º for a few days, honestly, I can only sustain the other mode for about 5-6 days tops :)


Per the bold :cool:

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Did you eat any stone crab? What I like about them is that the fisherman pulls off their big claw and then tosses them back so they can grow another. :) The other day we were at Costco and bought 4 huge king crab legs. After the shock of $72, we decided to split them between two meals. As I said they were huge, more meat in a leg, than 2-1lb lobster tails.
 
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Did you eat any stone crab? What I like about them is that the fisherman pulls off their big claw and then tosses them back so they can grow another. :) The other day we were at Costco and bought 4 huge king crab legs. After the shock of $72, we decided to split them between two meals. As I said they were huge, more meat in a leg, than 2-1lb lobster tails.

We saw quite a few in some of our lobster hot spots, and a more than one mistaken identity ("Got one, wait, it's a stone crab ..."). Problem is, they're currently out of season :)
 

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Does anyone eat the pacific black rock crab? Sometimes we kept them for their claws in gumbo. Otherwise we’d toss those noxious things back and only keep dungeness.
 

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***Chest Day post-workout meal***

I Gather this doesn’t look all that appetizing, but there is something about fresh tuna garnished appropriately with spices/vegetables and whole-grain rice for the carb that is crucial in my protein intake. Approximately 55 g of protein Just in this bowl. What I like about Tuna, its *so* versatile and endless to customize. [Also, a great source of iron and potassium.]


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Clenbutrol’s name is a marketing play on the real thing: clenbuterol.

G cambogia is an appetite suppressant.
Citrus aurantium is marketed as a natural ephedra which was banned.
Guarana is basically caffeine.

Orange peel probably isn’t worth the risk especially in combo with caffeine. We’re fortunate our body is so resilient because people put it through some crazy ****.
 

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Well after three and half months of no sugar and barely any carbs I had my first cheat day which including pizza and a Pepsi. I was 250 in the morning and then 258 the next morning. I know, weight fluctuates normally anyway but it was still shocking to see. Back on the no carbs no sugar IF diet today.
 

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There a lot of drugs not regulated by the FDA that could have major health risks even taking some of these not knowing the actual side effects or what harm you’re doing to your body short/long term. For me, I’m all natural when it comes to bodybuilding, ‘No gear here’ per se. I want to know that I achieve my results based off my *own* hard work that I put in long hours in the gym, in addition to eating clean, wholesome food with Rich nutrients for the body. I do take a daily vitamin and that’s it.
 
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Well after three and half months of no sugar and barely any carbs I had my first cheat day which including pizza and a Pepsi. I was 250 in the morning and then 258 the next morning. I know, weight fluctuates normally anyway but it was still shocking to see. Back on the no carbs no sugar IF diet today.
I read that white flour can spike your blood sugar faster than a candy bar. :eek:
 
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Glad to be back in the sweaty spinning room again, for harder and more intense training.
Have taken a lighter road but very consistent and good training summer.
Running a lot, some yoga, wished that my Ashtanga was going better though.
But it’s not lost :cool:

Stepping up intensity is wonderful :)
 

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Glad to be back in the sweaty spinning room again, for harder and more intense training.
Have taken a lighter road but very consistent and good training summer.
Running a lot, some yoga, wished that my Ashtanga was going better though.
But it’s not lost :cool:

Stepping up intensity is wonderful :)

I used to do 60 or 90 minute spins and heated hatha three times a week. The spin instructors ranged from tolerable to excellent but found a good schedule. Those classes were packed so people arrive early to claim a bike and start the warm up. Now you have to reserve a bike online or you won’t get in. Winter will be even worse.

The yoga class was usually always full too so assume the two instructors I followed were good. All I can say is I found yoga very challenging. I hid in the back corner.
 
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I used to do 60 or 90 minute spins and heated hatha three times a week. The spin instructors ranged from tolerable to excellent but found a good schedule. Those classes were packed so people arrive early to claim a bike and start the warm up. Now you have to reserve a bike online or you won’t get in. Winter will be even worse.

The yoga class was usually always full too so assume the two instructors I followed were good. All I can say is I found yoga very challenging. I hid in the back corner.
We book our spinning classes online too. Some classes, the sweatiest, gets full fastest.
Unfortunately we don't have any authorized Ashtanga (the yoga I'm into) teachers in this town, so I'm on my own after practicing with an awesome teacher who now lives on the other side of the world.
I've practices different kinds of yoga since way back, so I will make it work.
 
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Well after three and half months of no sugar and barely any carbs I had my first cheat day which including pizza and a Pepsi. I was 250 in the morning and then 258 the next morning. I know, weight fluctuates normally anyway but it was still shocking to see. Back on the no carbs no sugar IF diet today.

Water retention, don't sweat it, or _do_ sweat it ... out :) You'll recover in 48 hours.
 
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