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You mentioned it later, but it certainly depends on what you’re doing. If you’re on cardio equipment, then you might just need something to break the monotony.

On the one hand for me, my outdoor runs are just me, my watch, and the road. On the other hand, when I’m on my indoor bike trainer, it gets really boring staring at my garage wall for an hour or more, so Netflix is a must.
I live in the countryside and I used to run all the time. No traffic, wide open scenery and pure tranquility. No indoor gym setting for cardio can top fresh air. I didn’t even listen to music at the time when I would be on longer outdoor runs.

I totally think there is a time and place for something like an iPad for a bike or elliptical, but for higher speeds on a treadmill, you wouldn’t be able to focus on watching a display. I guess as long as you’re accomplishing your goals where displays aren’t distracting someone, then that works to.

By the way, haven’t seen you in awhile in here. Come visit more.
 
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By the way, haven’t seen you in awhile in here. Come visit more.
Been lurking lately. Recovering from a fractured tailbone from a fall from the attic and waiting on a shoulder MRI that may have been aggravated during the same fall. Biking and running hasn’t really been possible. ?
 

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Been lurking lately. Recovering from a fractured tailbone from a fall from the attic and waiting on a shoulder MRI that may have been aggravated during the same fall. Biking and running hasn’t really been possible. 😄
Best of luck with the MRI. Hopefully nothing serious. Not sure what type of shoulder injury you have, but lots of stretching if possible for your scenario, can definitely make a huge difference for your mobility.
 

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Love this machine made by ‘Arsenal’. So essentially it’s an elevated ‘fly machine’ for your chest, and the plates are loaded on the back. It’s a safer variant using this machine -versus- doing dumbbell flies on a bench manually, because the arms on both sides of the machine, will only allow you extend down so far, that way it protects your shoulder from over-extending to prevent injury. [In My opinion, dumbbell flies on a standard bench belong in the ‘iron graveyard’, as this machine you can still achieve the same stretch/contraction as you would with dumbbell flies.]

I actually prefer this machine as my last chest exercise. My chest (And shoulders) is so exhausted at the end of my workout, I don’t even load plates, I just use the arms only to push that final stretch, which there is some weight when you’re using the arms which are constructed of steel. Also, if your chest is fully exhausted, this should still be rather challenging if it’s your last exercise of your workout, that is if your intensity was on point.
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I’m always looking for ways to improve my diet without sacrificing the calories, but yet strip out the unnecessary fats, oils, ect. The things I won’t incorporate into my diet is no alcohol whatsoever [Actually, I don’t consume alcohol at all, as its also known to affect The production of testosterone levels for a male], no deep-fried food/saturated fats, no oils or dressings, and no butters of any sort.

Speaking of no butter(s), I love peanut butter, but it is very unhealthy for you. So I came across a recommendation from a friend for ‘PB2’, it’s essentially ground peanuts to a powder form, with salt only and removes all the other ingredients from peanut butter.

I add this into my daily protein/creatine shakes, and oatmeal.

I Purchased both flavors, one has Coco and the other is just a natural peanut butter flavor. It’s excellent. A little on the pricey side for about $6 for a container, but the tangible benefits are there for those who don’t want all the fat from peanut butter.

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@Relentless Power I wonder how that compares to PB Fit https://pbfit.com/

Peanut butter is a weakness of mine. Like Ted Lasso, I’ve got a jar that I usually just eat plain. Unlike Ted, I use a spoon however. I try to keep the Jif singles around, though because if I’m not careful, I can eat way too much. ?
 

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@Relentless Power I wonder how that compares to PB Fit https://pbfit.com/

Peanut butter is a weakness of mine. Like Ted Lasso, I’ve got a jar that I usually just eat plain. Unlike Ted, I use a spoon however. I try to keep the Jif singles around, though because if I’m not careful, I can eat way too much. 😞

The only time I’m eating peanut butter is on a bagel. But in terms of PB2, the taste is exactly the same once you blend it or mix it, but obviously the texture will change, because its powder formulated. Everything about it is completely natural with no additives.

It’s more popular than I thought, as one grocery store didn’t have any of it in stock, and the other one only had a few bottles on the shelf. So it’s definitely something consumers are aware of.
 
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The only time I’m eating peanut butter is on a bagel. But in terms of PB2, the taste is exactly the same once you blend it or mix it, but obviously the texture will change, because its powder formulated. Everything about it is completely natural with no additives.

It’s more popular than I thought, as one grocery store didn’t have any of it in stock, and the other one only had a few bottles on the shelf. So it’s definitely something consumers are aware of.

I find the taste of the regular PB2 to be a little more bitter. They do have a PB2 with Vanilla! Still no 'pumpkin spice' PB2 yet, but they apparently are able to jump on some bandwagons at least. That new flavor is interesting, and not at all in a bad way.

Oh, the PB2 with cocoa is just kinda nasty, unfortunately. I tried it in plain yogurt, and, wow... It's probably the bitter in the cocoa they use. I was surprised how bad it actually tasted. It tended to, in my concoction, over power the peanut butter taste a bit. Maybe I didn't mix it up enough, as it seems, with yogurt, it really has to be mixed very well. Still, powdered peanut butter? Who said the future was going to be boring...

But sample it yourself. They did have small sample sizes around so you don't have to buy a whole bottle of it, in case it's not palatable. I wonder how much of the taste difference is because of the missing fat, and how much is the sugar. Fat isn't bad. Not as bad as sugar. *shrug* Carry on...
 

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... I came across a recommendation from a friend for ‘PB2’, it’s essentially ground peanuts to a powder form, with salt only and removes all the other ingredients from peanut butter.
I love peanut butter. On toast with either jam or honey on top. We always equate jam in Europe with jelly in the US, but I believe they're not quite the same (jam has fruit in it, jelly uses extracted fruit juice). Anyway, I digress ...

Just looking at my two different brands of peanut butter here. One is 100% peanuts, and the other is 97% peanuts, palm oil and salt. What's in the US versions?
 

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I love peanut butter. On toast with either jam or honey on top. We always equate jam in Europe with jelly in the US, but I believe they're not quite the same (jam has fruit in it, jelly uses extracted fruit juice). Anyway, I digress ...

Just looking at my two different brands of peanut butter here. One is 100% peanuts, and the other is 97% peanuts, palm oil and salt. What's in the US versions?
Here’s what I have in my house, which is pretty much the standard you’ll see in North America, among some other flavors/brands, but they almost contain all the same ingredients for the most part:

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Ah, that's actually not bad although it doesn't give the percentage of peanuts to sugar. I add jam or honey usually anyway, so having sugar in it wouldn't be a deal breaker :)

However, the hydrogenated oil is.
 

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I explained to my doctor at my annual physical that I was putting in a lot of effort, but not being rewarded with weight loss. I realize that calorie intake is the culprit, but he confirmed that metabolism wise that 4 small intakes of food during the day, the first at breakfast might make a difference, so I am trying this. I had been trying to skip breakfast as a method to reduce calorie intake, but it was pointed out in this thread previously that that was a mistake. ?

My wife was diagnosed as borderline diabetic (runs in the family) so she is busy altering her diet. We usually eat pork bacon once a week, and she suggested turkey bacon, but this article indicates that Turkey bacon is only marginally better than pork.


Hmm, I started eating a light breakfast and lighter meals, still working out as usual, and my weight has dropped 2lbs to 217. Let’s see if this is some kind of a trend. ?
 

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I explained to my doctor at my annual physical that I was putting in a lot of effort, but not being rewarded with weight loss. I realize that calorie intake is the culprit, but he confirmed that metabolism wise that 4 small intakes of food during the day, the first at breakfast might make a difference, so I am trying this. I had been trying to skip breakfast as a method to reduce calorie intake, but it was pointed out in this thread previously that that was a mistake. ?

My wife was diagnosed as borderline diabetic (runs in the family) so she is busy altering her diet. We usually eat pork bacon once a week, and she suggested turkey bacon, but this article indicates that Turkey bacon is only marginally better than pork.


I started doing a larger, but sane, breakfast, and a light lunch and dinner, and have lost weight, and seem to be doing much better. I don't worry about carbs and such as much during the day, and ride my bike at least an hour every day.

But on the bacon, I'd recommend staying FAR away from processed meats. I find that after a 'continental breakfast, where the only protein is eggs and bacon, I feel like total crap. The nitrates and nitrites and the grease, even in turkey bacon, is just one thing that I (and many others I'm sure) just can't take. Even occasionally. I do, if I really get a 'got to have' lust for that flavor (or smell), get the fat free real bacon bits, and dump a teaspoon on a salad, or drop some in something else sane for dinner.

My big dietary sin is salami, and other meats of that type. Now, I occasionally buy the high priced cut meats, like Olli, and some others, and have a single slice every day or two. It scratches the itch, and I'm not going face down in the hog trough blowing up my diet, and my body. I can go months without that craving. For a kid that grew up on hams, hamburger, bacon, eggs, Lebanon baloney, and whole milk, I'm surprised I've lived as long as I have. I grew up on Hamburger Helper, and Tuna Helper too. (?????)

But whatever you do, don't feel guilty about it. That's the worst thing I can think of. I used to feel I had to hide my salami fetish/lust, and it sure didn't work well. I just had to confront it, and accept it I guess. Sounds funny, but it seems to work for me.

Well, that and looking at the old sci-fi series, where everyone is so damn skinny. That was before lobbying groups distracted the politicians and started poisoning America. For profit! High Fructos Corn Syrup, as an example, is a cheap sweetener because it's largely tax payer subsidized. It's cheaper than 'real' sugar... We are literally poisoning ourselves to death at a profit for someone... Ahh, Capitalism. Love it, or hate it, but in the end, *someone* is profiting from everything that we read, see, eat, drink, or die from. Some of the rest of the world is wise to it. To have Scotland declare Subway 'bread' isn't bread because of the high sugar content should be embarrassing for Americans, but we, by and large, seem to be too busy, heads in the trough, to notice.

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If I had time in my Weight training regimen to actually fit this in my schedule, I would. It’s a ‘hill escalator’. It’s basically exactly what it looks like, you’re essentially setting the level of restriction you want, and then you start climbing, almost having your body in a position as you would on a steep incline or hill. I haven’t tried this yet, but it looks like it be a serious quad/glute burner.

Oh, it’s brand new, the owner just got this in last week.
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My orthopedist said they are really hard on the knees. I had to get rid of my stepper, which crushed me. I loved that thing. He recommended swimming, and biking. I lived near big water, and never learned to swim (so maybe my parents WERE trying to kill me?) so swimming was out, and I went whole hog into biking. It's really fun actually. If you are old, or have bad knees, or both, biking is great. I don't lose as much weight as I did when I was running, but, tradeoffs...
 
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These MAG grips are stellar. They’re actually hard to find, and I’m surprised the gym owner was actually able to get these in stock. They are fairly lightweight, but they put a different grip and angle when you pull down for lats. Your Hand essentially curves in at the top with the grip, and when you fully extend at the top of the rep, they put a slightly different tension on your lat. Me personally, I prefer the long angle MAG grip, that seems to have the best affect. [Also, they are super grippy, versus your hand slipping on stainless steel.]
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Hey @Relentless Power - what’s your view on HGH supplements?
I guess, are you looking at a specific product [If so, which one?].

The reason I’m asking if it’s a specific product, is like there is over 250 different types of GH products available that are included in kits, orals, single use only, etc.. So it’s hard to comment specifically what you’re looking for.


The authenticated injectable iU GH that is actually specifically prescribed from a doctor, is what professionals would use, but obviously you wouldn’t have access to that.
 

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I guess, are you looking at a specific product [If so, which one?].

The reason I’m asking if it’s a specific product, is like there is over 250 different types of GH products available that are included in kits, orals, single use only, etc.. So it’s hard to comment specifically what you’re looking for.


The authenticated injectable iU GH that is actually specifically prescribed from a doctor, is what professionals would use, but obviously you wouldn’t have access to that.
Nothing in particular to be honest. I was reading some Quora on bodybuilding and some people pushed hgh products (no injections) as the game changers so I was wondering your opinion about it. To me they seemed mostly scam or broscience based products.
 

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Nothing in particular to be honest. I was reading some Quora on bodybuilding and some people pushed hgh products (no injections) as the game changers so I was wondering your opinion about it. To me they seemed mostly scam or broscience based products.
Well bro-science is behind everything, because everybody has their own anecdotal input of how something works, especially in the world of sports and weightlifting.

I don’t want to devalue a product if I don’t have experience with it, in which case with GH supplements, I do not. I can tell you that some may have benefited experiences and others say it’s a scam. The thing of how it works, is it’s to promote muscle growth, but it’s not guaranteed that it will work, because it has to genetically bond with your DNA, similar to how PEDs are.

When you look at the supplement kits, they’re not cheap, especially for ones that are actually from reputable companies. But like I said, if it doesn’t work for you or where it provides some type of negative affect, then that’s a lot of money that somebody essentially wasted.

Years ago, there was a vitamin store that I used to frequent regularly before they went out of business, and one of the guys who I knew that worked there, was trying to sell me a ‘testosterone booster’ kit for like $250. And he knew I was into bodybuilding and he told me the product would ‘definitely put muscle on me’, but I wasn’t sure if I wanted to put something like that in my body, not knowing really much about the product, the history of the company or any adverse side effects that could follow.

All in all, I think the supplement kits with testosterone, GH, are over-inflated to give you possibly a short term effect were they try to reel you back in to spend more money. The question is, does somebody actually see value in a artificial product like this versus using more natural methods. For some, they’ll try anything and for others, they’re more skeptical.
 

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Well bro-science is behind everything, because everybody has their own anecdotal input of how something works, especially in the world of sports and weightlifting.

I don’t want to devalue a product if I don’t have experience with it, in which case with GH supplements, I do not. I can tell you that some may have benefited experiences and others say it’s a scam. The thing of how it works, is it’s to promote muscle growth, but it’s not guaranteed that it will work, because it has to genetically bond with your DNA, similar to how PEDs are.

When you look at the supplement kits, they’re not cheap, especially for ones that are actually from reputable companies. But like I said, if it doesn’t work for you or where it provides some type of negative affect, then that’s a lot of money that somebody essentially wasted.

Years ago, there was a vitamin store that I used to frequent regularly before they went out of business, and one of the guys who I knew that worked there, was trying to sell me a ‘testosterone booster’ kit for like $250. And he knew I was into bodybuilding and he told me the product would ‘definitely put muscle on me’, but I wasn’t sure if I wanted to put something like that in my body, not knowing really much about the product, the history of the company or any adverse side effects that could follow.

All in all, I think the supplement kits with testosterone, GH, are over-inflated to give you possibly a short term effect were they try to reel you back in to spend more money. The question is, does somebody actually see value in a artificial product like this versus using more natural methods. For some, they’ll try anything and for others, they’re more skeptical.
Thank you for your answer, it certainly does make sense. I am not looking into adding any more supplements, I take creatine, BCAA, some vitamins, and obviously whatever is in the protein shake.

Speaking of protein shakes, I recently switched to this and so far I am quite impressed: https://originmaine.com/origin-usa/nutrition/jocko/health/jocko-molk-chocolate-protein/
 
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Thank you for your answer, it certainly does make sense. I am not looking into adding any more supplements, I take creatine, BCAA, some vitamins, and obviously whatever is in the protein shake.

Speaking of protein shakes, I recently switched to this and so far I am quite impressed: https://originmaine.com/origin-usa/nutrition/jocko/health/jocko-molk-chocolate-protein/

Yaxo, you the man. You were the topic of discussion tonight in the household with your suggestion. I’ll explain later more in detail.
 
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