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iPhone 15 Pro Held an X for the first time in 6 years…
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iPhone 6 in Space Grey is the only iPhone I've ever bought new, I even waited in line to get it on launch. However, I always found the plastic antenna lines that they cast into the aluminium frame ugly. It was not until the Jet Black iPhone 7 that I liked the design of that era.
My dad choose to upgrade to the 3GS when the 4 launched because he liked how the 3G felt in the hand. Always liked the sentiment and agreed on the feeling of the pebble shaped plastic.
Personally my top 5 in no particular order is 7 Jet Black, XS Space Grey, 5 Black & Slate, 3GS Black and 13 mini Midnight.
Agree. iPhone X was peak iPhone in my opinion. It was a phone — not a phablet. It was elegant, light, easily usable in one hand, had good battery life, a great display, great overall utility as a personal information appliance and optimized for overall user experience. I think current iPhones are very good, high quality devices but they feel more optimized for functionality vs experience. Current iPhones are definitely post-Ive devices.
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Agree, I miss my XS, it was like a well-worn pebble as you turned it over in your hand. The 12-13-14 Pro series was the worst industrial design in the iPhone's history imo, just harsh edges, too big, too heavy. They dialled this back a bit with the 15 Pro, thankfully, but I think the flat-edge design allows them to have better cameras and a bigger battery, so that's been prioritised over it being nice to hold. It's a hard balance to get right, because I certainly wouldn't want to go back to the XS's camera now, but it was such a nice object in and of itself.
I’m not sure whose disease you have, but I don’t think it’s Jony Ive disease.
I’m honestly not sure whose disease it is for this “stick as much as you can into the iPhone, but keep it thin, even if the width and height dimensions expand annually” disease.
it was gimped by the low RAM, and the quickly outdated cameras (no HDR). The Xs was what it should have been.
Sure thing!
The iPhone XR was one of the iPhones I had before we started thinking about flat-sided iPhones again during the pandemic. In my opinion, the iPhone XS was a pretty cool iPhone that felt really premium in my hands. The gold color is really striking and opulent, just like the gold stainless steel Apple Watches. If I had that iPhone, I would’ve kept it longer than the XR.
But the iPhone XR did feel like it was worth letting go when the speed couldn’t keep up anymore. I still admire the curved edges, even though we can have action buttons on it!
Of course the design evolves, but not quickly. That camera bar on the back is just an extension of the current camera mesa.
That’s nothing. I found an iPhone 5 in a drawer a couple of days ago. Charged it up and got it going. It was so tiny! And dainty! The whole thing fits in the palm of my hand… with room to spare.
Then I tried to type in some passwords and it felt like I should be using a stylus just to hit those itty bitty keys.
Here it is next to my iPhone 15 Pro
The 3G/S is my favorite by far. Holding it is reminiscent of holding an ideally proportioned skipping stone.
In terms of comfort I don’t think any phone will get the 3GS for me.
That lovely curved back and it was so snug in your hand with true one-handed use. Was beautiful!
That lovely curved back and it was so snug in your hand with true one-handed use. Was beautiful!
Apple would probably blame the customer for creating these monsters.
I prefer flat sides, personally. The 5 was probably the best designed iPhone, to me. I also love my 13 mini (can't bring myself to sell it, even though it's been replaced by a 15 Pro). Flat sides have the most benefit when the phone is small enough to easily hold in one hand. I do have a new case for my 15 Pro that is much more grippy, and that's really helped it feel more secure, but it's still too big.
Used the X for 6 years before replacing it with a 15PM. Loved that phone, never gave me one issue except a battery replacement. If it would of received iOS17 and iOS18 I'd still be using it today. That said, I do love the 15PM. The bigger display and improvements across the board in hardware make it a worthwhile upgrade IMO. If I can get 6 years out of this phone, I consider it money well spent
It's also just smaller. Unsurprisingly, smaller feels better in the hand.
But larger means 2 things: more battery life, and a better camera system. And for Apple, it means more money (. larger has always = more $ for Apple products). People are ultimately going to choose battery and camera over the comfort of holding it, because they don't want to sacrifice those. If it were possible to get the same battery and camera in a smaller package, the smaller options would still exist, and would be very popular. But physics is a thing, for batteries and image sensors, and no matter how good you are able to make the small one, the bigger one will always be better. The screen barely factors in at all. I've used everything from a 3.5" iPhone to my 6.9" iPhone, and truly, there isn't much utility to the largest screens. It doesn't change the way you use the device in any fundamental way (for the better). There is some sweet spot around 5.5". But the best 5.5" iPhone Apple could make today, at any price, would be only 80% as good as the larger one. And that is something that users view as bad.
But larger means 2 things: more battery life, and a better camera system. And for Apple, it means more money (. larger has always = more $ for Apple products). People are ultimately going to choose battery and camera over the comfort of holding it, because they don't want to sacrifice those. If it were possible to get the same battery and camera in a smaller package, the smaller options would still exist, and would be very popular. But physics is a thing, for batteries and image sensors, and no matter how good you are able to make the small one, the bigger one will always be better. The screen barely factors in at all. I've used everything from a 3.5" iPhone to my 6.9" iPhone, and truly, there isn't much utility to the largest screens. It doesn't change the way you use the device in any fundamental way (for the better). There is some sweet spot around 5.5". But the best 5.5" iPhone Apple could make today, at any price, would be only 80% as good as the larger one. And that is something that users view as bad.
I would disagree as the smaller non pro models sell the most every year. Sales by class for 2024:
Base: 42%
Plus: 13%
Pro: 19%
Pro Max: 26%
Apple’s best selling iPhone models aren’t what you’d expect, but there’s a good reason - 9to5Mac
A new report shares a breakdown of the best selling iPhone models by class, and the numbers are surprising—until you dive into the details.
9to5mac.com
So, while within the 15 series the Pro models sell the most among just the 15's, more people are choosing non Pro and the smaller model by choosing older phones. Basically, the majority of people don't put battery and camera as their most important things.
You're not reading your own numbers correctly. A large chunk of the population value price first, over anything else. Hence the prop for the base model. After that, battery and camera dominate. It varies from year to year based on Apple's actual offerings.I would disagree as the smaller non pro models sell the most every year. Sales by class for 2024:
Base: 42%
Plus: 13%
Pro: 19%
Pro Max: 26%
Apple’s best selling iPhone models aren’t what you’d expect, but there’s a good reason - 9to5Mac
A new report shares a breakdown of the best selling iPhone models by class, and the numbers are surprising—until you dive into the details.
So, while within the 15 series the Pro models sell the most among just the 15's, more people are choosing non Pro and the smaller model by choosing older phones. Basically, the majority of people don't put battery and camera as their most important things.
Then you agree that battery and camera don't dominate as you just said "price" dominates. Keep in mind what the numbers mean: they are total iphone sales for 2024. Plus:
When choosing in regards to battery 61% choose the smaller battery (includes both pro and non pro).
When choosing camera 55% choose the lesser camera phones (the non pro models).
Battery and camera do not dominate its as simple as that. Maybe they do for you but not overall for the world. Price matters but also size and in this case the smaller phones dominate with 61% compared to 39% for the larger phones.
*SE sales were not included in the numbers which would have further swayed things towards smaller battery and lesser camera.
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