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I completely understand what you mean, the app never really re-load data until you actually launch it on iPhone despite getting push notifications as thats the only thing that does get through on IM apps, definitely Apple needs to put an end to that part and offer real time Multi-Tasking, thats something I do like about android, when things are active...they are fully active not just idling around but it also does lead to a significant decrease in battery life. However I do think that if the new iPhone gets 1GB RAM(I'm quiet certain it will) should raise the bar for multi-tasking as the apps will stay running/active longer as compared to now.

I support android 100% but it just has lots of cleaning up to do as its main concern with the quality of apps, the Play store needs to be better, number of apps also needs to increase significantly. Google needs to make it so that its appealing to developers and they aim at making Cross-Platform apps from the beginning, not launching on iOS then considering Android afterwards and I think if we can have that, android can do really well...it has a lot of potential.

How much battery life do you get with those 3 things "Active"? My Galaxy Nexus has 1750mAh(just got it few days ago and haven't used it much) but considering the Galaxy S III has 2100....it should last over 24hr?

You're right, when it comes to multitasking, there is somewhat a trade off. The good thing is, the high-end Android phones have been accouting for that. I have had the Galaxy Nexus (GSM) since it's launch, and I get pretty good battery life. On light usage (and I mean light lol) I have broken the 24 hour mark. With heavy use (3+ hours of calling and 2+ hours of screen time), I get from 12-15 hours on a charge. I now have the Galaxy S3, which seems to have better battery life, but it's too new for me to really say how long my battery is lasting, as I'm still putting it through its paces and testing it. Thus far though, it doesn't seem bad at all. Bear in mind, I use a good bit of multitasking, as I have several different things running (like tickers, exchange, facebook, severe weather alerts, news alerts, etc). A person who doesn't utilize multitasking as much as I do, will get even more battery life.
 

Satnam1989

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You're right, when it comes to multitasking, there is somewhat a trade off. The good thing is, the high-end Android phones have been accouting for that. I have had the Galaxy Nexus (GSM) since it's launch, and I get pretty good battery life. On light usage (and I mean light lol) I have broken the 24 hour mark. With heavy use (3+ hours of calling and 2+ hours of screen time), I get from 12-15 hours on a charge. I now have the Galaxy S3, which seems to have better battery life, but it's too new for me to really say how long my battery is lasting, as I'm still putting it through its paces and testing it. Thus far though, it doesn't seem bad at all. Bear in mind, I use a good bit of multitasking, as I have several different things running (like tickers, exchange, facebook, severe weather alerts, news alerts, etc). A person who doesn't utilize multitasking as much as I do, will get even more battery life.

Thats good, I honestly don't like the look of the S3 they should hav gotten rid of that home button...I love the Nexus's touch buttons, I think they are amazing. Will be using it more once jelly bean comes in officially. For now its just a toy:)
 

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Thats good, I honestly don't like the look of the S3 they should hav gotten rid of that home button...I love the Nexus's touch buttons, I think they are amazing. Will be using it more once jelly bean comes in officially. For now its just a toy:)

I agree. The one thing I don't like about the GS3 is the home button. I just am not a fan of physical buttons on the front of the phone. Not to mention, on-screen buttons are much more responsive than a physical button, and more visible in sunlight than capacitive buttons.
 

Satnam1989

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I agree. The one thing I don't like about the GS3 is the home button. I just am not a fan of physical buttons on the front of the phone. Not to mention, on-screen buttons are much more responsive than a physical button, and more visible in sunlight than capacitive buttons.

I'm also not pleased with the graphics chip used in the GS3....Samsung always does good but then cheap out on something, they never deliver THE BEST smartphone really that is truly a blessing to the buyers.

They either cheap out on the:
- Processor (like the other variants of the SGS3-Dual-Core 1.5Ghz)<- Essentially a Galaxy S II with a bigger screen....I doubt there is much difference in the processor and the GPU that is truly noticeable.....
- Mali 400?....Its good but not good enough to be bundled with a 2012 Quad-Core CPU....We expect and Want/need Better Graphics Chip (Also using Adreno in all other variations....really?)
- Screen (Pentile....Not that I'm complaining and almost 99% of the people won't even notice the difference between a true HD screen and a Pentile....

Some features that I mentioned above may not be as important to a good portion of the users but really...quality does matter....and thats one of many reasons why iOS hardware succeeds because when they put in hardware....its the same Quality in the Verizon, AT&T and International versions....(since they do have SLIGHT(Hardly noticeable) variations in hardware)
 
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Vegastouch

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I can't stress how wrong you are with what I've put in bold. Seriously, it's amazing that you are willing to proclaim that my assertion that most people would prefer an IPS panel (and specifically the One X screen) as being 'a few'. You cannot be more wrong. Not only are most professional positive reviews of the SIII conceding that the One X screen is superior, I see it CONSTANTLY in the comments sections of YouTube and in forums like The Verge and the like.

I am not talking about reviews, im talking about the people in here who are actually buying these things and/or have tried both. I dont see many at all that say they do not like the GS3 screen and wouldnt buy it because of it. Ive only seen you say that.

I can't possibly tell you how many times I've read someone proclaiming that the One X screen is superior to SIII's or that LCD on the whole is superior to Amoled. In contrast I've seen the opposite stated rarely. I honestly have no desire to continue this back and forth. You keep saying the same thing. If you like your Amoled screens, so be it. Goes for everybody else on this forum too. But spare me this garbage that my opinion is a minority one.

I never once said that the HTC One X screen isnt better. IMO it is a little better, so? What does that have to do with people that still buy it even though a review said the One X screen was better? The GS3 phone overall is better and thats more important to most people.
I dont see why that is so hard to understand. In HERE, yes, your opinion on this is in the minority and if you dont believe it, please show me otherwise....from posters in here who are buying them, not from a reviewer who dont own the phone, they just review it.

I'm not going to comment anymore on the GNex or SIII screen. It appears you feel the need to reply that I'm wrong or that not everybody finds screen quality to be an important factor (which again I disagree with).

Again, what i said is it isnt the most important to everyone. Like the poster who boought a GNex aftr taking back the One X and you couldnt believe it.
So show me otherwise if you dont agree. Whats wrong with me saying you are wrong? You are telling me the same thing!

Other than you, who else here is saying the GS3 screen sucks and they wont buy it over a One X? Hec one poster here yesterday said he didnt agree with you that the IPS screen was even better.
 

mbell1975

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I'm also not pleased with the graphics chip used in the GS3....Samsung always does good but then cheap out on something, they never deliver THE BEST smartphone really that is truly a blessing to the buyers.

They either cheap out on the:
- Processor (like the other variants of the SGS3-Dual-Core 1.5Ghz)<- Essentially a Galaxy S II with a bigger screen....I doubt there is much difference in the processor and the GPU that is truly noticeable.....
- Mali 400?....Its good but not good enough to be bundled with a 2012 Quad-Core CPU....We expect and Want/need Better Graphics Chip (Also using Adreno in all other variations....really?)
- Screen (Pentile....Not that I'm complaining and almost 99% of the people won't even notice the difference between a true HD screen and a Pentile....

Some features that I mentioned above may not be as important to a good portion of the users but really...quality does matter....and thats one of many reasons why iOS hardware succeeds because when they put in hardware....its the same Quality in the Verizon, AT&T and International versions....(since they do have SLIGHT(Hardly noticeable) variations in hardware)

Ummm, thats because the LTE radio takes up a good deal of room and it doesn't play nice with quadcore chips. I will take LTE speeds and a dual core processor ANY day over a quadcore chip running some HSPA crap.
 
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Just got a galaxy nexus, have had the iPhone since the 3G, including the 4S at launch.

iPhone simply does not compare anymore. In fact iOS 6 is soundly beaten by ICS, so when Jelly Bean launches in two weeks I'm sure it will be ugly. The things you can do with these phones (with NO hacking) is amazing. They are perfectly set up IMO. iPhone users are blown away by what I can do with my Nexus phone (and I was one of them when I saw it myself!)

Go with the Nexus, or even an S3 if you like. iPhone looks ancient by comparison. And I mean absolutely ancient.
 

Vegastouch

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I agree. The one thing I don't like about the GS3 is the home button. I just am not a fan of physical buttons on the front of the phone. Not to mention, on-screen buttons are much more responsive than a physical button, and more visible in sunlight than capacitive buttons.

You know, i didnt think id like it either because really i think it is something to wear out but i got my GS3 today and i have to say, i do like the home button. Hope it lasts. Im still setting this thing up. Its taking a while but i do love the phone. The size isnt too big, i can use it one handed and i dont have big hands.

One question....do you know how to get rid of the voicemail icon on top? It wont swipe away and i dont have any messages and after i check then, it stays there.
 

blairh

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I am not talking about reviews, im talking about the people in here who are actually buying these things and/or have tried both. I dont see many at all that say they do not like the GS3 screen and wouldnt buy it because of it. Ive only seen you say that.

In case you haven't noticed, the people talking positively about the SIII in this forum tend to be the same dozen members or so. They just keep saying positive things about the device. Which is fine, but not exactly a fair representation. Furthermore, what I'm getting at is the sentiment OUTSIDE of this forum. There are plenty of people who are happy with the SII screen and will be happy with the SIII screen. But overall, from what I'm gathering in series of forums (not Android ones) and from professional reviews and from YouTube comments is that there is a much strong sentiment that IPS/LCD is superior overall to Amoled. That's all I'm saying.


I never once said that the HTC One X screen isnt better. IMO it is a little better, so? What does that have to do with people that still buy it even though a review said the One X screen was better? The GS3 phone overall is better and thats more important to most people. I dont see why that is so hard to understand. In HERE, yes, your opinion on this is in the minority and if you dont believe it, please show me otherwise....from posters in here who are buying them, not from a reviewer who dont own the phone, they just review it.

My point was that you felt my viewpoint, that IPS was superior overall to Amoled, was a minority one. And I am telling you that that cannot be further from the truth. My opinion in here IS NOT the minority in general, which is the only thing that matters. It's the minority in these specific threads about the SIII which of course attract MR members who are pro SIII. Stop coming to such stupid and dense conclusions.



Again, what i said is it isnt the most important to everyone. Like the poster who boought a GNex aftr taking back the One X and you couldnt believe it.
So show me otherwise if you dont agree. Whats wrong with me saying you are wrong? You are telling me the same thing!

Show you what otherwise? What the hell are you getting at? Of course not everybody cares that much about the screen on their smartphone and how it performs, but my belief is that most do. I find that's impossible to deny.

This is what is wrong with you tell me I'm wrong.

"Your opinion, that you are again repeating and its not echoed my "many". Really its just a few."


This is the statement that you made, that I already quoted from you, that is utter BS. My 'opinion' is that IPS is a superior screen technology compared to Amoled. That's all I'm stating. And you keep insisting that such a viewpoint is not shared by many, but rather only a few. And that Vegastouch is where you are so ***** wrong. It drives me crazy that you keep coming back to this. Stop point to the sky and insisting it's green. You want to love your Amoled screens, go for it. But this is utterly ridiculous and like I already said, I want to drop this entirely as I will no longer be stating to anyone on this forum what I feel about Amoled screens, because you will most likely chime in and tell me I'm wrong.


Other than you, who else here is saying the GS3 screen sucks and they wont buy it over a One X? Hec one poster here yesterday said he didnt agree with you that the IPS screen was even better.


My God, I am not the only person who has spoken negatively about Amoled's on this forum. I don't need MR members to back me up on what is an opinion. Wow, someone came on here yesterday and proclaimed they don't agree that IPS screens are better? Amazing! I can't believe that happened. My viewpoint is totally irrelevant.

I am done responding to you. I said that last time and yet you felt the need to respond with utter nonsense. But now I'm seriously done, because it's entirely clear to me that you are a complete waste of time. I can't believe the things you are saying at this point. IPS is better than Amoled. True whites, natural colors, significantly brighter. Amoled's take more power to produce whites, display artificial colors, are subject to burn in, and produce greyish whites. And the SIII's white is bluish to boot. The Amoled argument that it produces stronger blacks is only relevant for movie viewing, which I do none of on a smartphone. For reading text it's still a superior experience on an IPS.


And with what, I'm done. For the whole summer. I'm not posting again until September as we approach the iPhone release. This exchange with you has been a complete waste of my time. Enjoy your SIII and talking highly about it all summer on this forum. And enjoy writing me the inevitable ridiculous response which I won't be responding to so you'll feel like you won at something. Cheers.




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blackhand1001

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I'm also not pleased with the graphics chip used in the GS3....Samsung always does good but then cheap out on something, they never deliver THE BEST smartphone really that is truly a blessing to the buyers.

They either cheap out on the:
- Processor (like the other variants of the SGS3-Dual-Core 1.5Ghz)<- Essentially a Galaxy S II with a bigger screen....I doubt there is much difference in the processor and the GPU that is truly noticeable.....
- Mali 400?....Its good but not good enough to be bundled with a 2012 Quad-Core CPU....We expect and Want/need Better Graphics Chip (Also using Adreno in all other variations....really?)
- Screen (Pentile....Not that I'm complaining and almost 99% of the people won't even notice the difference between a true HD screen and a Pentile....

Some features that I mentioned above may not be as important to a good portion of the users but really...quality does matter....and thats one of many reasons why iOS hardware succeeds because when they put in hardware....its the same Quality in the Verizon, AT&T and International versions....(since they do have SLIGHT(Hardly noticeable) variations in hardware)

The snapdragon s4 is way faster than the previous galaxy s2's cpu. They also didn't cheap out as you said. The mali 400 quad core doesn't support lte. And if you knew anything you'd realize the snapdragon s4 is a very fast cpu and is built on the 28nm process and has an integrated lte chip which reduced power consumption.
 
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404 tech junkie

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I'm also not pleased with the graphics chip used in the GS3....Samsung always does good but then cheap out on something, they never deliver THE BEST smartphone really that is truly a blessing to the buyers.

They either cheap out on the:
- Processor (like the other variants of the SGS3-Dual-Core 1.5Ghz)<- Essentially a Galaxy S II with a bigger screen....I doubt there is much difference in the processor and the GPU that is truly noticeable.....
- Mali 400?....Its good but not good enough to be bundled with a 2012 Quad-Core CPU....We expect and Want/need Better Graphics Chip (Also using Adreno in all other variations....really?)
- Screen (Pentile....Not that I'm complaining and almost 99% of the people won't even notice the difference between a true HD screen and a Pentile....

Some features that I mentioned above may not be as important to a good portion of the users but really...quality does matter....and thats one of many reasons why iOS hardware succeeds because when they put in hardware....its the same Quality in the Verizon, AT&T and International versions....(since they do have SLIGHT(Hardly noticeable) variations in hardware)

As for calling the US GS3 a GS2 with a larger screen, that couldn't be further from the truth. The Snapdragon S4 is heads and shoulders better than the S3. It isn't even close. For your reference, you might want to look up the benches on it. As for pentile, that has been beaten to death. Pentile is only a bad word to people who frequent forums and obsess over details. You can't even see any screen dooring effect or any pentile related issues. The average person would not find any fault with the screen at all.

You know, i didnt think id like it either because really i think it is something to wear out but i got my GS3 today and i have to say, i do like the home button. Hope it lasts. Im still setting this thing up. Its taking a while but i do love the phone. The size isnt too big, i can use it one handed and i dont have big hands.

One question....do you know how to get rid of the voicemail icon on top? It wont swipe away and i dont have any messages and after i check then, it stays there.
For me, it's been quite an adjustment getting used to PUSHING a button instead of TOUCHING it. I had the Nexus One when it first came out, and every phone I've had since then (which has been quite a number of) have all had capacitive buttons, up until the GNex which had the on-screen buttons. I feel on-screen buttons is the best way to go. They can be customized, they're more visible in the light than capacitives, and they are more responsive than physical buttons.

As for the voicemail question. I'm guessing you're using Google Voice. Change your voicemail settings back to the carrier. Call your phone and leave yourself a voicemail, then delete from your phone. That's what I had to do to get rid of it on mine. It seems to be some sort of glitch in the cell carrier's system.
 
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Satnam1989

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The snapdragon s4 is way faster than the previous galaxy s2's cpu. They also didn't cheap out as you said. The mali 400 quad core doesn't support lte. And if you knew anything you'd realize the snapdragon s4 is a very fast cpu and is built on the 28nm process and has an integrated lte chip which reduced power consumption.

Ya but that Adreno graphics chip = I can't play GTA III with car lights.....unless I dig deep into it and change things up my self.

Btw I never used LTE yet...I'm sure its amazing but Im not a heavy relier on Cellular Data because when I'm in canada (mostly) the Cellular Data here is very expensive, being a student I spend the least on it and stick to using WiFi.
 

404 tech junkie

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the snapdragon s4 is way faster than the previous galaxy s2's cpu. They also didn't cheap out as you said. The mali 400 quad core doesn't support lte. And if you knew anything you'd realize the snapdragon s4 is a very fast cpu and is built on the 28nm process and has an integrated lte chip which reduced power consumption.

exactly!
 

404 tech junkie

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Ya but that Adreno graphics chip = I can't play GTA III with car lights.....unless I dig deep into it and change things up my self.

Btw I never used LTE yet...I'm sure its amazing but Im not a heavy relier on Cellular Data because when I'm in canada (mostly) the Cellular Data here is very expensive, being a student I spend the least on it and stick to using WiFi.

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BTW, I didn't make a single change at all. ;-)
 
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Help me decide whether I should get a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean or wait for Apple iPhone 5. My contract expires in 2 mo.

I've owned the first two generations of the iPhone, but I switched to the droid series devices because I went to Verizon.

On the one hand, I'd like to get an iPhone 5 because it has a great camera and beautiful industrial design. It finally has navigation. It is also a global phone, which comes in handy once or twice a year when I travel abroad.

On the other hand, I really like Android's ability to play Flash video because i have to constant watch flash videos for work, I use Google Voice and Gmail religiously, and having played with Jelly Bean this week, I think Google's new voice assistant beat Siri hands down. I also like android's ability to play any kind of video format from memory. Lastly, Google's Navigation is undeniably really great. It's also a lot cheaper compared to an iPhone ($50 on Wirefly).

The downside for getting a Galaxy Nexus is that the camera is awful and the build quality is extremely lacking. It is also not a global phone, so presumably, I will have to buy a GSM Nexus to compensate.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could give me your opinion and help me think about this purchase. I believe time may be of the essence due to the recent in junction against the Nexus.
I have the same problem. But I think I"m going to buy the Galaxy Nexus now. iOS 6 was too disappointing and I use it on my iPhone 4S so it's not like I haven't given it a try.
 

mbell1975

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It is slightly faster than the 4s. It has the 21mbps hspa+ standard vs the 14mbps hspa+ on the 4s.

In the US? Fastest speeds I have ever heard of for HSPA+ out here is like 8Mbps. Fastest I have had personally on AT&T out here is 5Mbps. I get like 16-20Mbps on Verizon's LTE. Thats the only reason I wouldn't get the Nexus.
 

404 tech junkie

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In the US? Fastest speeds I have ever heard of for HSPA+ out here is like 8Mbps. Fastest I have had personally on AT&T out here is 5Mbps. I get like 16-20Mbps on Verizon's LTE. Thats the only reason I wouldn't get the Nexus.

On T-Mobile's HSPA+ I've gotten 13 megs on before, and consistently got 10+. On AT&T, the best I've gotten on HSPA+ is around 10 megs.
 

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And with what, I'm done. For the whole summer. I'm not posting again until September as we approach the iPhone release. This exchange with you has been a complete waste of my time. Enjoy your SIII and talking highly about it all summer on this forum. And enjoy writing me the inevitable ridiculous response which I won't be responding to so you'll feel like you won at something. Cheers.
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Very good post Blairh. Agree with you on these same few posters that stay around instead of just going to their own android forum to post on. I just laugh at these immature fan boys now and give them little or no time from me. ;)
 

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It is slightly faster than the 4s. It has the 21mbps hspa+ standard vs the 14mbps hspa+ on the 4s. There is no difference in battery drain between those standards though.

My GSM Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile's HSPA+ gives superb battery life. It's really the best of both worlds: fast speeds but far less draining than LTE. I'm talking about 15-17 hours depending on usage.

It's fantastic.
 

blackhand1001

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My GSM Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile's HSPA+ gives superb battery life. It's really the best of both worlds: fast speeds but far less draining than LTE. I'm talking about 15-17 hours depending on usage.

It's fantastic.

Yeah. My lte one has been pretty good as well, but I usually am on wifi and have lte off. I have a toggle in my notification drawer to turn it on when I need it. I can get like 5 hours of web browsing and screen on time with it. Very little drain at idle too.
 
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I would switch from my 4s to a Galaxy Nexus IF Google sold the Verizon LTE version from the Google Play Store. I'm not interested in Verizon installing their software on it. Give me the pure Google experience just like Apple did.
 
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