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blackhand1001

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I would switch from my 4s to a Galaxy Nexus IF Google sold the Verizon LTE version from the Google Play Store. I'm not interested in Verizon installing their software on it. Give me the pure Google experience just like Apple did.

All verizon installed was backup assistant (to transfer contacts) and my verizon both of which you can uninstall. The verizon iphone has the same thing. Theres no bloatware on it. No free trial games or any of that.
 

mac.cali

macrumors 65816
Mar 16, 2012
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All verizon installed was backup assistant (to transfer contacts) and my verizon both of which you can uninstall. The verizon iphone has the same thing. Theres no bloatware on it. No free trial games or any of that.

Did you need to install some special software to remove them?
 

chakraj

macrumors 65816
Feb 6, 2008
1,285
10
So Cal
I am running Jelly Bean on my galaxy Nexus now, its available in a few different ROMS. It has it way over IOS, Jelly Bean is much improved voice search is better than Siri in my opinion, yes no smart retorts but it works better.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
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Did you need to install some special software to remove them?

Nope, in the built in applications list if you click them, theres a disable button in there that will uninstall them. It just keeps the apk file in a backup folder just in case you want them back. They aren't installed though when they are disabled.
 

404 tech junkie

macrumors regular
Jun 30, 2012
133
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is that the SGSII or SGSIII? on my SGSII I had to modify a file to get them to work I know that for sure...maybe the 225 has gotten better?

S3. That's the whole point, the points you are bringing up aren't applicable to the GS3. The GS3 and GS2 are two completely different devices.
 

Darthdingo

macrumors 6502a
Dec 11, 2010
602
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[ROM] Jelly Belly [4.1] - It's all about speed!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28677-rom-jelly-belly-v17-07012012-jellybean-41-its-all-about-speed/

Holy cow, this ROM is blazing fast, and truly smooth as "butter" Is rock solid stable, and amazing. He updates it almost once per day, each version better than the last.

Also this kernel is golden on top of this ROM;
http://www.derkernel.com/jbtuna.php#
tap the "Experimental" tab

My Verizon Nexus has never been so smooth and warp speed fast. My Brother a long time iPhone addict, even admitted he was very impressed on how fast and responsive it is. And he always criticized my previous Android phones, for feeling laggy. With this new Jellybean ROM, it is amazingly better.
 

nfl46

macrumors G3
Oct 5, 2008
8,537
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[ROM] Jelly Belly [4.1] - It's all about speed!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28677-rom-jelly-belly-v17-07012012-jellybean-41-its-all-about-speed/

Holy cow, this ROM is blazing fast, and truly smooth as "butter" Is rock solid stable, and amazing. He updates it almost once per day, each version better than the last.

Also this kernel is golden on top of this ROM;
http://www.derkernel.com/jbtuna.php#
tap the "Experimental" tab

My Verizon Nexus has never been so smooth and warp speed fast. My Brother a long time iPhone addict, even admitted he was very impressed on how fast and responsive it is. And he always criticized my previous Android phones, for feeling laggy. With this new Jellybean ROM, it is amazingly better.

Thanks for the link. I am using Beats v2.1 rom and its been great thus far, but it looks like that rom is even better.

Edit: Nevermind, that looks like its for a Verizon Nexus and not GSM. I'm not sure if it will work with my phone. I guess I'll stick with Beats.
 

Darthdingo

macrumors 6502a
Dec 11, 2010
602
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Thanks for the link. I am using Beats v2.1 rom and its been great thus far, but it looks like that rom is even better.

Edit: Nevermind, that looks like its for a Verizon Nexus and not GSM. I'm not sure if it will work with my phone. I guess I'll stick with Beats.

Yeah with these new Jellybean ROM's, only install the ones for your carrier. I have to admit, that Jellybean is finally exactly where Android needs to be, all grown up and mature. ICS was a big step up, but felt little unfinished, where JB completes it. I think a lot of iPhone user who play with a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.1 Jellybean, will be pleasantly surprised.

It would take a major update from Apple to get me back to an iPhone again, I am open minded to going back, but want several features not sure Apple will ever include

- Larger screen at least 4", preferably 4.3"
- LED Notification light on the front like Blackberry and newer Android phones
- Widgets allowed on the home screen
 

DodgeV83

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2012
879
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The 4s also has a much slower CPU. With jellybean its butter smooth. Everything is fast a lag free. The browser is also miles ahead of iOS's.

It has been proven that the iPhone 4S has better CPU performance, giving more horsepower (measured in millions of operations per second) to the OS and applications. The Android Dalvik Java VM really handicaps CPU performance.

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The snapdragon s4 is way faster than the previous galaxy s2's cpu. They also didn't cheap out as you said. The mali 400 quad core doesn't support lte. And if you knew anything you'd realize the snapdragon s4 is a very fast cpu and is built on the 28nm process and has an integrated lte chip which reduced power consumption.

The US S3 has a slower GPU than last years internationally sold S2.

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In case you haven't noticed, the people talking positively about the SIII in this forum tend to be the same dozen members or so. They just keep saying positive things about the device.

I really was wondering if I was the only one who noticed this :p
 

Jb07

macrumors 6502
Oct 31, 2011
433
1
Dallas
If I were you I would just buy the Nexus now at $299 off contract and see what the new iPhone brings in October. If you want the iPhone, sell the Gnex and get the iPhone. If you don't, keep the Nexus or get a different phone.
 

blackhand1001

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Jan 6, 2009
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It has been proven that the iPhone 4S has better CPU performance, giving more horsepower (measured in millions of operations per second) to the OS and applications. The Android Dalvik Java VM really handicaps CPU performance.

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The US S3 has a slower GPU than last years internationally sold S2.

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I really was wondering if I was the only one who noticed this :p

Not all applications ar ran through dalvik. You can compile native code as well. A lot of games are set up that way as is the browser and most of the built in apps.
 
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mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
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Not all applications ar ran through dalvik. You can compile native code as well. A lot of games are set up that way as is the browser and most of the built in apps.

Don't talk logic with him, its useless. He hasn't a clue how Android works and he spews the same garbage in every thread.
 

DodgeV83

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2012
879
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Not all applications ar ran through dalvik. You can compile native code as well. A lot of games are set up that way as is the browser and most of the built in apps.

http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html

Notably, using native code on Android generally does not result in a noticable performance improvement, but it always increases your app complexity.

Based on Google's Dev documentation, running the code natively will only be beneficial in very specific situations. They recommend against it, as the performance improvement isn't there, and it introduces compatabilty issues.
 

blackhand1001

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Jan 6, 2009
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http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html



Based on Google's Dev documentation, running the code natively will only be beneficial in very specific situations. They recommend against it, as the performance improvement isn't there, and it introduces compatabilty issues.

So that proves my point about the dalvik VM not sapping as much performance as you say it does. The cpu of the galaxy nexus is faster than the iphone 4's cpu. Thats a fact.
 

Vanilla Ice

macrumors 6502
Jan 30, 2011
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Its sucks that you would leave Verizon's 4G LTE and go else where. The Galaxy Nexus is an awesome phone. Jelly Bean with Project Butter is a HUGE plus for Android. I say buy the Nexus now and sell it if you like what the next iPhone delivers. OR keep them both and have best of both worlds!
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
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Just buy an iPhone 5

This is the right answer. People take note of the amount of nonsense you need to deal with to get android to not not suck.

Dubious ROM's, scouring the Internet for bootleg Kernals from who knows where...sad that google is incapable of just shipping a quality product.
 

Satnam1989

macrumors 65816
Nov 16, 2011
1,200
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Illinois
This is the right answer. People take note of the amount of nonsense you need to deal with to get android to not not suck.

Dubious ROM's, scouring the Internet for bootleg Kernals from who knows where...sad that google is incapable of just shipping a quality product.

Not always necessary, I think the craze about slapping on Dubious ROM's is overrated. I have owned about 5 Android phones in total to date and not once flashed a custom ROM. I always kept it stock because thats exactly what I like, Only thing I ever flashed was a Kernel to OC my SGS4G T959V and that too because I wanted to play around with it. (its much better than installing "FakeClockUp"....bc its pretty lame for those that actually do install it....I personally hate the UI put on my manufacturers on Android along with all that bloatware, the Galaxy Nexus is a truly solid device that will satisfy majority of a users needs with its Pure Android experience. Also note that Android offers a great deal of customization especially once rooted....but I feel users just don't know where to stop...

I am a iPhone user and have been since the 3GS, and one thing for sure to date is that I won't give up on my iPhone because it works the best for me and has every single app in amazing quality that I could possibly want/need. But If/When I wait for the next iPhone I switch to android for that short period and Having owned Samsung, HTC and Motorola, I can say the Nexus Series offers by far hands down the best experience and is far better than settling with a Windows Phone.
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
737
0
This is the right answer. People take note of the amount of nonsense you need to deal with to get android to not not suck.

Dubious ROM's, scouring the Internet for bootleg Kernals from who knows where...sad that google is incapable of just shipping a quality product.

You mean the same way iPhone users have to jailbreak to get anything useful and be able to somewhat customize that awful, locked down and boring iOS? Sad Apple is incapable of shipping a quality product.
 

aohus

macrumors 68000
Apr 4, 2010
1,903
536
sky
I'm an android fanboy and I'd wait for the iP5 over the galaxy nexus.

That being said, I'll take Galaxy Note 2 / Galaxy Nexus 2 coming this fall anyday over iPhone 5. Just sayin...
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
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This is the right answer. People take note of the amount of nonsense you need to deal with to get android to not not suck.

Dubious ROM's, scouring the Internet for bootleg Kernals from who knows where...sad that google is incapable of just shipping a quality product.

Its because jelly bean isn't final yet. Its the same thing as installing the developer preview on an ios device. This isn't a custom compiled build. Its google's build with a few added things like wifi tether, and superuser. If you wait two weeks the final build will roll out to anyone on the stock rom when official Jellybean is released.
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
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Its because jelly bean isn't final yet. Its the same thing as installing the developer preview on an ios device. This isn't a custom compiled build. Its google's build with a few added things like wifi tether, and superuser. If you wait two weeks the final build will roll out to anyone on the stock rom when official Jellybean is released.

This wasn't commentary just on the GNEX. This was about android in its totality.
 

Dmunjal

macrumors 68000
Jun 20, 2010
1,533
1,543
This wasn't commentary just on the GNEX. This was about android in its totality.

But you have the choice. If you want the full Google Android experience like Apple gives you with the latest OS releases with no carrier input, you have the Nexus devices. If you want a specific feature from a specific vendor (like a big screen, LTE, SD card, removable battery, etc.) you can get that too. You are then limited by how quickly they update or you can root and get your own ROMs. I like choice. :)
 
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