MP 1,1-5,1 Hex 3.2 update from 2010 quad 2.8 photos new! CPU to use!

[w33z3r]

Upgrading a 2009 2.66 to the 3.33 hex core should follow the exact same process right?

 

[DasShrubber]

Just finished one last night. 2xw5590 working great.

The only trick was in how tight to fasten the heat sinks. Reading another article ( https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/781908/) I snugged up the screws, and then backed them off one half turn.

Thanks all!

 

[ronturtle]

mid 2007 mac pro - can I upgrade chip to mid 2010?

Yeah, I don't think it kills warranty, but by saying It does I do feel morally safer since I really do not know for sure..


Thanks very much for your detailed, easy to follow, and encouraging instructions. The pictures really help, and I'm thankful that you've explained what the pictures show.

I am considering this procedure for a machine I have, though I wanted to ask if there were any technological constraints in performing this operation on an older machine?

I have a macpro from mid 2007, model identifier is: MacPro1,1
a Dual Core Intel Xeon
2.66 Ghz
number of processors: 2
Total number of cores: 4
Bus Speed: 1.33 Ghz

My upgrade plan includes 6gb of total memory.

I am considering the 6 core 3.33 ghz processor.

Thanks! All opinions welcome.

Ron
Washington DC

 

[bamf]

Yeah, I don't think it kills warranty, but by saying It does I do feel morally safer since I really do not know for sure..


Thanks very much for your detailed, easy to follow, and encouraging instructions. The pictures really help, and I'm thankful that you've explained what the pictures show.

I am considering this procedure for a machine I have, though I wanted to ask if there were any technological constraints in performing this operation on an older machine?

I have a macpro from mid 2007, model identifier is: MacPro1,1
a Dual Core Intel Xeon
2.66 Ghz
number of processors: 2
Total number of cores: 4
Bus Speed: 1.33 Ghz

My upgrade plan includes 6gb of total memory.

I am considering the 6 core 3.33 ghz processor.

Thanks! All opinions welcome.

Ron
Washington DC

You need to have a 2009 or 2010 Mac Pro to be able to do this procedure - and with the 2009 you have to install an EFI hack.

The 6 core processors will not fit into your current machine.

 

[ronturtle]

You need to have a 2009 or 2010 Mac Pro to be able to do this procedure - and with the 2009 you have to install an EFI hack.

The 6 core processors will not fit into your current machine.

Thanks for theresponse. Do you have a recommended resource that I could study, to determine which how I can upgrade my current machine? Before I fish or cut bait, I'd like to learn more about the technicals, and a good resource is worth it's wait in gold. What sites do you prefer?

Thanks again for the response.

 

[philipma1957]

Thanks for theresponse. Do you have a recommended resource that I could study, to determine which how I can upgrade my current machine? Before I fish or cut bait, I'd like to learn more about the technicals, and a good resource is worth it's wait in gold. What sites do you prefer?

Thanks again for the response.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro

you have an older machine . I do not know if it is worth while to upgrade it. it has a limited up grade path due to 32 bit efi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon

 

[ronturtle]

You need to have a 2009 or 2010 Mac Pro to be able to do this procedure - and with the 2009 you have to install an EFI hack.

The 6 core processors will not fit into your current machine.

Thanks for the counsel. I've decided to up to a used 2009 4,1 2.66 quad core.
Ron

 

[philipma1957]

as another update I uploaded lion system is working okay. lower geekbench score of 14398 but i am running a lot of software I shut off all software and score jumps to 15228 close to my snow scores

 

[Apple Corps]

phillip,

I have a Mac Pro 4,1 / 2.66 GHz single quad core chip. The two programs I use the most are Capture One Pro (photo editing - mainly cpu dependent) and FCExpress for video (may move to FCP X when it gets sorted).

So:

What processor upgrade would you suggest?
Any practical downside regarding heat / power draw on my 4,1?
Are your installation instructions a match for whatever cpu upgrade you suggest?

Thanks

 

[philipma1957]

you have the 2009 mac pro it needs an efi hack to accept the hex cup's. somewhere in this long thread there is a link to it and at least 5 or 6 people have put in hex 3.2, 3.33, 3.46, cpus. For the swap of single cpus 2009 and 2010 these photos work . you can put in a hex 3.33 now for a good price ebay link I give is for http://www.buy.com


http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Intel-Xeon-...57?pt=CPUs&hash=item2312528b49#ht_2969wt_1189


this is the best bang for the buck. real seller real warranty. if you go hex make sure you understand the efi hack. since you have the 2009 model.


now if you want drop in only this will work

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Xeon-W358...480?pt=CPUs&hash=item3cb9fecd88#ht_2432wt_803


of course the boost is not as good and the seller is in hong kong so good luck on warranty. I will look for some more info on the hack for you model. Maybe a single cpu 2009 modder can chime in? I know you all are out there!


heat and power are not a big deal. a few degrees with heavy renders and maybe 15 more watts. i do a lot of hand brake this hex core is the first machine I can't max the cores in. they run around 80 percent instead of 98-99 percent like a lot of quads do.

 

[Apple Corps]

philip - thank you for that very detailed response. The physical changeout looks very doable for my "mechanical skills" - the efi hack is something I would probably pass on - I just don't have the interest to go too far down the hacking path.

This MP has been rock solid and I don't want to risk "system" issues.

Your response helped me decide - and that is of value - thanks again.

 

[ronturtle]

this is the best bang for the buck. real seller real warranty. if you go hex make sure you understand the efi hack. since you have the 2009 model.


Hi Phillip,

I have a pre-owned, single chip MP 2009 4,1
I plan to EFI hack to 5,1 firmware
12gb memory
and up to the 3.33 processor you recommend.

Mainly video editing After Effects and photo work.

Want to keep with FCP 7 which precludes Lion as an OS. I want to keep away from FCPX for now.

I have a SL OS disk tho I'm uncertain of version number.

Do you think there would be any problems running a 10.6.xx operating system on the hack 2009 3.33 MP?

Thanks for any advice you have,
Ron
Washington DC

 

[philipma1957]

this is the best bang for the buck. real seller real warranty. if you go hex make sure you understand the efi hack. since you have the 2009 model.


Hi Phillip,

I have a pre-owned, single chip MP 2009 4,1
I plan to EFI hack to 5,1 firmware
12gb memory
and up to the 3.33 processor you recommend.

Mainly video editing After Effects and photo work.

Want to keep with FCP 7 which precludes Lion as an OS. I want to keep away from FCPX for now.

I have a SL OS disk tho I'm uncertain of version number.

Do you think there would be any problems running a 10.6.xx operating system on the hack 2009 3.33 MP?

Thanks for any advice you have,
Ron
Washington DC

It has been done by more then one user. No one that did it has come back to this thread and said that an update killed it off. This is a long thread so far one modder got a cpu that died but it was purchased from amazon IIRC and the replacement works fine. I have had a dozen or more pm's some about lion some about the 2009 hack no one has pm'd about a dead mac pro or bad efi hack. This single cpu upgrade for the 2009 (with efi) or for the single quad 2010(no efi) is a rare thing for macs > A low cost easy way to increase your cpu power by 50%.

 

[bluesteel]

awesome post !!

 

[kkanuck]

Your welcome remember this is for the 2010 quad 2.8 and quad 3.2. to any of the 3 hex cpus .

It really is a nice upgrade for the money. I am really impressed how much photo loading from my camera to the iphoto library has speed up.

Great Writeup...



Many Thanks for taking the time to post this, I know it takes time.....

 

[philipma1957]

Thank you for the thank you, I did a write-up for the 2011 mac mini on the mac mini section of this site.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1194678/

I am looking to get a quad mac mini and a thunderbolt storage device show the setup and run it head to head against this mac pro. I am still waiting on the raid0 lacie and the raid0 sonnet case to come out. I am looking to see how cost effective a mini server is in comparison to the mac pro.

 

[kkanuck]

It has been done by more then one user. No one that did it has come back to this thread and said that an update killed it off. This is a long thread so far one modder got a cpu that died but it was purchased from amazon IIRC and the replacement works fine. I have had a dozen or more pm's some about lion some about the 2009 hack no one has pm'd about a dead mac pro or bad efi hack. This single cpu upgrade for the 2009 (with efi) or for the single quad 2010(no efi) is a rare thing for macs > A low cost easy way to increase your cpu power by 50%.

I too will be doing this 3.3 Hex upgrade on my 4,1 '09 Quad 2.66 Mac Pro!

I am happy to hear there have been no issues getting the machine up to this speed via this upgrade

I do have to use the firmware hack utility software of course as I have an '09.

My one hesitation is my Apple care which is still in effect. I have read the following more than once:

"Apple does not consider the CPU in any of its machines to be a user-serviceable part; swapping it will void AppleCare, and so will applying an unsupported firmware update"


So as a result of this, I think I will wait till my Apple Care expires and then do this upgrade.. If it was expired already I would be on it!

Thanks again, and look forward to this project in the future.

 

[rondobloodcanno]

Order of operations

Hello all,

I just purchased a refurbished 2010 2.8GHZ mac pro with the intention of upgrading the ram (32gb 1333mhz owc) and processor (W3680) as described. I have yet to boot it up - should I upgrade before or after the first boot? Can I upgrade both the ram and the cpu at once?

I've upgraded PC's before no problem, I am just trying to cover my bases to make sure I do not screw anything up.

Any advice would be appreciated!

 

[s.m.t.]

For the 2009 MP, is it safe to stay with any of the quad core chips with out the need to for the EFI hack?

specifically, can I use this chip?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-...404?pt=CPUs&hash=item2eb71aa554#ht_3268wt_922

or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30054950778...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1830wt_1156

 

[philipma1957]

Hello all,

I just purchased a refurbished 2010 2.8GHZ mac pro with the intention of upgrading the ram (32gb 1333mhz owc) and processor (W3680) as described. I have yet to boot it up - should I upgrade before or after the first boot? Can I upgrade both the ram and the cpu at once?

I've upgraded PC's before no problem, I am just trying to cover my bases to make sure I do not screw anything up.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Sorry missed this I was out all day sat.
1) If your machine came with snow os x boot it offline just to see if it is working.
2) turn it off add the new ram boot to see if the new ram is good .
3) turn it off then put the new cpu in.

takes maybe 10 more minutes but is the correct way just in case something is wrong.



to S.m.t.
pretty sure this will work:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/30054950778...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1878wt_1156

give me time to research this for you. an hour or so looks like the w3565 will certainly work. with no efi upgrade.


buy it from this seller. full warranty . easy return policy I purchase from them all the time

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Intel-X...51?pt=CPUs&hash=item588d954d47#ht_2913wt_1189

below another very good seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-BX806...68?pt=CPUs&hash=item3cb7121920#ht_1428wt_1140


I don't know the seller you picked he may be good. for 322 minus about 150 for the sale of the oem cpu your upgrade would be around 160 or 170. you should get a geekbench move from 9k to 12k.. the 3.33 hex is about 16k geekbench.

 

[jse75]

Another successful (so far) upgrade to W3680

Hi,

I purchased a 2010 2.8 ghz Quad Core Mac Pro 5,1 on eBay for a reasonable price, then upgraded it using the instructions in the thread. Very straightforward. I was able to install the Xeon W3680 (Hex Core 3.33ghz) and it is very straightforward. Not really any harder than installing RAM, a hard drive, etc. Certainly easier than installing the Airport card in the original Mac Pro 1,1 actually.

Geekbench 64 now reports 16141.

I also installed 12GB 1333mhz RAM and an SSD.

So far, so good.

Will let y'all know if I encounter any difficulties or problems going forward, but, this seems like a WAY less expensive and very straightforward way to get the hexacore Mac. Lacking a 2011 version of the Mac Pro, I support this!

 

[leadfeet]

Upgrade Successful

I upgraded a 2010 Mac Pro from 2.8 quad to 3.33 hex today. No problems at all. I ran several stress tests to run all the cores at full load, max temp was around 190 deg F.

No experience is necessary for upgrading the Mac Pro CPU - it's really very easy. Although I've been around electronics for more decades than I'd care to admit, I never would have attempted this without this thread.

Thank you Philip!

 

[yauzers619]

I upgraded a 2010 Mac Pro from 2.8 quad to 3.33 hex today. No problems at all. I ran several stress tests to run all the cores at full load, max temp was around 190 deg F.

No experience is necessary for upgrading the Mac Pro CPU - it's really very easy. Although I've been around electronics for more decades than I'd care to admit, I never would have attempted this without this thread.

Thank you Philip!

190F!! Get iStats and cool down that processor.

 

[philipma1957]

190F!! Get iStats and cool down that processor.

I second that I use istats and if I run a long cpu intensive job I set the fans very high. don't do this type of work often 10 or 12 hours a month.

 

[redarc]

about replace cpu

ehy i see this guide so useful and i would try to do something with my mid 2010 mac pro westemere , what i ask is you know if everything u do work on x 2 xeon motherboard too? or there is something different? and what about this? i got x 2 2,4 ghz.. so low clock speed for most of software that use only 1-3 cores... so its possible to replace it with x 2 intel W3565 , u can find this on top single processor quad core 2010!

is possible?

thank you and sorry for disturb!