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Relentless Power said:
Well, you’re partially incorrect, the first ‘fingerprint sensor’ did not belong to Apple, ‘capacitive’ was the first with the iPhone 5s.

Also, it was 3D facial mapping, but I’ll let it slide. :D

Lastly, reference the bolded in your post, those aren’t really things that are worth noting, I do agree that things like 3-D facial mapping, and certain biometric securities they were the first, but back to my original point, it’s not about being the first, it’s about making the best experience to the consumer, that’s what wins. In the end, certain technologies are compared to what the competition offers.
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The bolded examples were off the top of my head, but they are still accurate. Nvme based storage, Dolby vision, and 4K @ 60fps are features that were introduced first with apple. I’m going to include the stainless steel frame only because Samsung claimed the note was also stainless steel, before getting called out for it.

True optical fingerprint sensors were always around in some form or another in mobile phones long before smartphones came in to such popularity. You had to slide your finger over the sensor and was never very accurate, ie it never worked. However apples implementation through a capacitive sensor was first and one of the reasons capacitive sensors becoming a biometric standard on smartphones today was due to its accuracy. With google also transitioning to facial recognition with the pixel 4, it would appear other oems have begun to replace capacitive fingerprint sensors with a 3d facial recognition system (3d facial mapping) instead of going back to an optical fingerprint sensor.

Sure if you want to get technical, the dot projector and flood illuminator are hardware features first implemented on the iPhone and by apple.

Apple Watch’s ekg function is also well regarded and an apple first in a wearable. And while I had an lg watch phone back in the day, it can’t compare or compete with the Apple Watch lte. They both have cellular modems and can make and receive calls, but I won’t label something that was unusable as a first.


Apple is almost always first with a usable functioning feature. Eg android beam vs airdrop.
Or find my iPhone when it first launched and soon offline version of find my iPhone with iOS 13.


Having said that I never claimed it was about being first but to blanketly claim apple never tends to be first to add new features is quite inaccurate in and of itself.


Would you consider the offline implementation of find my iPhone a first or iterative?
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
I suppose it’s today’s technology because there are manufacturers with phones already in the market with those features. Apple is a little behind the curve bringing those additions but that is often the case.
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You know what I’m going to say (as we’ve discussed things for many years:)), Apple brings those additions but usually with a twist.
 
Azzin said:
I genuinely don’t get the desire to go back to Touch ID, can you help me understand?
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I guarantee you that if we both have our phones in our pockets or resting on a desk, I can have my phone unlocked and and ready to go faster than you. TouchID is just faster and more convenient in my opinion. The very action that wakes up my phone (I don't use lift to wake) also unlocks it. With FaceID I have to wake my phone, point it at my face, then swipe. Not to mention how much quicker ApplePay is in stores too, where I can take my phone out of my pocket, wake it, and authorize the payment in one seamless action.

It's not a deal-breaking inconvenience, but if we're talking about the iPhone of my dreams it would offer TouchID.
 
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ruslan120 said:
... and released an iPhone similar to the rumored iPhone 2020?

Complete with ProMotion, a square redesign, USB C, three cameras, improved FaceID, and a smaller notch?

A man can dream.
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Whatever it is you’ve been having, I want some of it. Must feel real good.
 
joeblow7777 said:
I guarantee you that if we both have our phones in our pockets or resting on a desk, I can have my phone unlocked and and ready to go faster than you. TouchID is just faster and more convenient in my opinion. The very action that wakes up my phone (I don't use lift to wake) also unlocks it. With FaceID I have to wake my phone, point it at my face, then swipe. Not to mention how much quicker ApplePay is in stores too, where I can take my phone out of my pocket, wake it, and authorize the payment in one seamless action.

It's not a deal-breaking inconvenience, but if we're talking about the iPhone of my dreams it would offer TouchID.
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I just use my watch to pay for things in stores.
 
craigio85 said:
There are countless threads about this and all of them descend into both sides of the debate exaggerating the ease and speed of their preferred method and inflating barely perceptible drawbacks of the other into major issues.
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Yep we’ve got people who refuse to accept FaceID and those who try and make out TouchID is awful to use on extremes of each. Makes for tiring reading.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
Yep we’ve got people who refuse to accept FaceID and those who try and make out TouchID is awful to use on extremes of each. Makes for tiring reading.
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Agreed. I only brought it up because the point of this thread seems to be to describe our dream iPhone, and for me that includes TouchID (AND FaceID, because why not please everyone by offering both if this is our fantasy device?).

I elaborated on why I prefer TouchID only because I was asked. I have no problem with others preferring FaceID.
 
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Relentless Power said:
Apple never tends to be the first to introduce a new feature, as an example, Samsung is usually a year ahead of them with some technological features. What I find about Apple, they create technologies in a different way that makes it unique for the user. In the world of tech, it’s never about being the first, it’s about making a lasting impression to the consumer.
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Want was the technical road block for releasing 128gb base storage? Samsung has had that for many years. What lasting impression do consumers have when apple has lower base storage and higher phone prices?

Same thing with fast charging, and free preorder bonuses.
 
macfacts said:
Want was the technical road block for releasing 128gb base storage? Samsung has had that for many years. What lasting impression do consumers have when apple has lower base storage and higher phone prices?

Same thing with fast charging, and free preorder bonuses.
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No technical limitation, just Samsung has to put bigger numbers in their phones to entice people to buy them. Pretty much always been this way.
 
macfacts said:
Want was the technical road block for releasing 128gb base storage? Samsung has had that for many years. What lasting impression do consumers have when apple has lower base storage and higher phone prices?

Same thing with fast charging, and free preorder bonuses.
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Nvme based ssd is more expensive than ufs.
 
bbednarz said:
Truthfully the only upgrade I really want is ProMotion.. Kinda surprising they don't have it yet. If they are actually going to start calling it iPhone 11 Pro then a ProMotion screen would make sense...
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high refresh OLEDs are very hard to come by (90Hz seems to be it for current mainstream availability). Apple are already heavily customising the panels, so adding in a higher refresh rate would probably drive up the cost even further, and that is if Samsung can even do it while fulfilling Apple's other criteria... OLED isn't to the stage yet where there's so many off the shelf panels available that they have a wide selection to pick and choose from.
 
macfacts said:
Want was the technical road block for releasing 128gb base storage? Samsung has had that for many years. What lasting impression do consumers have when apple has lower base storage and higher phone prices?

Same thing with fast charging, and free preorder bonuses.
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The impression depends on if you are a critic or a customer liking the companies offerings or a MacRumors member who has debated tirelessly on this subject for years.:)

i think it seems to be known that android manufacturers up the specs on certain functionalities, like RAM and Memory than on iphone. Hasn't seemingly deterred sales.
 
It would be great if Apple surprise wowed everyone this year, but it's not happening.

Wake me up when the phone has flat sides for the first time since 2013, along with a whitepoint slider, a 120 Hz Promotion display, and a Qualcomm modem.
 
macfacts said:
Nvme SSD is overkill when people just want to store more photos and music.
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Better performance is always better. But it begs the question, how do you know how people use their phones? Maybe the ones that do nothing with their phones except store photos and music it's overkill, but for the remainder of us who may do more with our phones, better performance is better. Or are you suggesting all android users do is store more photos and music.
 
macfacts said:
Nvme SSD is overkill when people just want to store more photos and music.
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Poor excuse.

The price matches the performance. Thats why 64gb nvme on an iPhone is more expensive than the 128 gb of cheap ufs storage.

Lol at anyone wanting apple to replace nvme with a cheaper substitue, like ufs.
 
I7guy said:
Better performance is always better. But it begs the question, how do you know how people use their phones? Maybe the ones that do nothing with their phones except store photos and music it's overkill, but for the remainder of us who may do more with our phones, better performance is better. Or are you suggesting all android users do is store more photos and music.
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I would say with confidence that people like yourself who extract the maximum potential out of your phone are in the minority. Most smartphones are used for very common tasks like photos, text, email, social media etc. The geeks of this world for phones are very much a small number I would say. This is perhaps a key reason why smartphones are being kept longer these days because use cases generally don’t change year on year. The corporate world is still full of iPhone 7’s and 3 years on they are still getting the job done.

I’m interested in phone technology and I will even admit I probably only use about 30% of the features on my iPhone.
 
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