I did......because Amazon also knows the site you went to before you visited Amazon.....then know the site you left Amazon to go to next......EVERYONE knows where you have been on the internet. Why is it different when Google does it? If you go to Apple's site...they know the site you were before coming to Apple and the site you leave Apple for....why is that different than what Google does? Then if they install an tracking cookie they will know all of your browsing history. Everyone does it.....
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I did......because Amazon also knows the site you went to before you visited Amazon.....then know the site you left Amazon to go to next......EVERYONE knows where you have been on the internet. Why is it different when Google does it? If you go to Apple's site...they know the site you were before coming to Apple and the site you leave Apple for....why is that different than what Google does? Then if they install an tracking cookie they will know all of your browsing history. Everyone does it.....
Ah well then it would be Amazon's fault for utilizing doubleclick. Guess users will have to avoid sites that use Google services.
What part of "regardless of whether you came from or then went to a Google site" did you miss?
If you open a browser on a brand new, never touched by human hands PC, go to Amazon.com, close the browser, throw the PC into the heart of the Sun, Google knows you went there.
In this case (as pointed out by 556fmjoe) because of doubleclick. I do not find the 'how' very interesting compared to the fact that they know. Now if you *only* went to Amazon.com then Google would not be able to tie that visit to you personally. Probably
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Do you have proof? Link please......What part of "regardless of whether you came from or then went to a Google site" did you miss?
If you open a browser on a brand new, never touched by human hands PC, go to Amazon.com, close the browser, throw the PC into the heart of the Sun, Google knows you went there.
In this case (as pointed out by 556fmjoe) because of doubleclick. I do not find the 'how' very interesting compared to the fact that they know. Now if you *only* went to Amazon.com then Google would not be able to tie that visit to you personally. Probably
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Only if they use Google ads and have the agreement to give your history to Google. Then by way of using that site you agree to let them sell your information. Google doesn't just do this on their own.
Haha, of course
lets just forget the fact amazon is utilizing a google service
OMG google knows! Of course they know man, get serious! The 'how' is the why, give me a break.
Well, 556fmjoe has already pointed that out. If you would like to see for yourself, take your browser to Amazon.com. Invoke your browser's 'View Source' function. Search for (and find!) links to doubleclick.com, a Google property.
Link please? Where did you agree to be tracked by Google when you went to Amazon to check the price of tea? I am not a lawyer, but I think one would tell you that unless you are told something, you cannot agree to it (implicitly or otherwise).
But I fear we are off topic. The how is not the subject at hand. The question is 'How do you feel about using Google services?'. And in order to make such a decision, I think it is valuable to know just how pervasive and intrusive Google's tracking engine really is. At the risk of beating a dead horse, comparing the normal 'keeping tabs on visitors' that most sites do with what Google does is just being naive.
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To make things even worse, DoubleClick tries to access your keyboard API. I found that out on my PowerBook when I launched Firefox from a terminal and saw the following message pop up in the terminal
If you Google that (no, the irony of using Google for this is not lost on me), you'll find others who noticed it as well. Scary stuff.
There is no link.....you give permission in your browser settings....
I have said this all along. If you do not want to be tracked then disable cookies.
I am not saying i agree with what they do.....just that you have control over it.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleClick
EDIT: It looks like Amazon does share your information it gathers from cookies...... At the bottom of their site in the small print under privacy...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=footer_privacy?ie=UTF8&nodeId=468496#GUID-A2C397AB-68FE-4592-B4A2-7550D73EEFD2__SECTION_0D132936501A4AE0A2F8D74426A8A2CA
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An additional datum which anyone who follows this thread might find interesting, especially if you have a Nest:
http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/06/24/nest-to-share-user-information-with-google-for-the-first-time/
http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/06/24/nest-to-share-user-information-with-google-for-the-first-time/
This article should be required reading for the "Apple does exactly what Google does" participants in this thread:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2366921/why-apple-really-cares-about-your-privacy.html
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http://www.macworld.com/article/2366921/why-apple-really-cares-about-your-privacy.html
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From that article:
"Opting out through oo.apple.com applies only to Apple advertising services and does not affect interest-based advertising from other advertising networks. However, if you select Limit Ad Tracking on your mobile device, third party apps are not permitted by contract to use the Advertising Identifier."
Wonderful article opening, but a bit naive. Apple cannot and does not control whether the app uses the Ad Identifier or not. The developer is simply supposed to not do so out of good will, when a flag is set. That wouldn't stop any collector of such info.
Not sure what you find so evil about it.
Personally, I think it's a great idea that my thermostat would know when I was heading home. People have wanted that kind of service for years.
You didn't Google well enough.
1) More than just that website can cause that error to pop up in Firefox.
2) The error message comes from a web server (e.g. download.cnet.com) attempting to use Firefox's API to take control of the keyboard... usually to block either a user's or computer's automatic pasting of an email address or password, etc.
The reason you saw it, was because of the way you started Firefox, leaving its standard error output attached to your terminal window.
That's one reason to use the keyboard API, but not the only one. It popped up when trackers were allowed to load, but it was not reproducible when Ghostery was present and blocking the DoubleClick tracker, so I doubt it was part of the website itself.
People are too busy blah blah blahing about how they don't like how Google and the others can do this and that with their stuff. You know what, how about not uploading it to begin with? There is nothing that is going to change if people keep uploading and using these services, and keep going on about how much they hate it.
The way people think about how Google searches your inbox, is probably blown out of proportion too.
Still, if you don't like it, don't use it.
The way people think about how Google searches your inbox, is probably blown out of proportion too.
Still, if you don't like it, don't use it.
Not only do I not trust them, I fear them. My information has fallen into the wrong hands before and getting your life back is really hard to do. I refuse to run Windows 8 for the same reason. Windows 8 maybe is designed so that you can use it without spreading your Google life all over it but that's the convenience of Windows 8.
Because of past experience I have learned to trust no one. I pick and choose very little information that I share with Google because Google services are so worthwhile and usable, but I don't trust anything digital. It just takes only one person that has been trustworthy for decades to turn to the Darkside to ruin your life.
Because of past experience I have learned to trust no one. I pick and choose very little information that I share with Google because Google services are so worthwhile and usable, but I don't trust anything digital. It just takes only one person that has been trustworthy for decades to turn to the Darkside to ruin your life.
To be fair, the title of this thread is "How do you feel about using Google services?", so the "blah, blah, blah" which you disparage is the whole point.
And, given this week's quote from a Google senior vice president:
"We want to know when youre at home, with your kids."
my answer is: creeped out. Really, really creeped out.
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But not all of us feel that way....that is just your opinion. I say great news! they can taylor services to meet my needs...bring it on! Google now has similar abilities. It shows where I am and gives useful options for me. Like how long it takes to get home from my current location or driving directions to a recent Google search. All very useful things.
Now with Android TV it can even be more useful. If i search for Game of Thrones.....Android TV can show me when it is on! Love it!
This thread is about "just" our opinions.
Personally, I appreciate the fact that my phone can tell me that without Apple having to know where I am. Or, as I turn onto my street, the lights in my home turn on - all without Apple (or anyone else) needing to know where I am.
Google would have you believe that they need to know all your personal details in order to provide you services. The truth is that they want that data. Apple has demonstrated that not only does Apple not need to know, they do not even want to know.
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If I disagree with you i am brainwashed?
Nice way to just file away any rational discussion....
For your own examples.....someone knows your information to have those things work that way.....
Edit: You keep bringing up Apple in all of your rants against Google..... I think it really shows your true motives for not liking Google/Android......let me guess to ponder that you don't like Sansung either?
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