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do you even see the specs on that device to even bring that abomination in this discussion. 720p screen with 5000mah battery
Just checking you on your facts is all. It is a $250 budget phone. Don't worry, your max is better in every single way. It should be, considering it's 5x the price.
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Tom's guide is the source lol
Their testing is the same across the board. Every user out there uses their phones differently.
 
Just checking you on your facts is all. It is a $250 budget phone. Don't worry, your max is better in every single way. It should be, considering it's 5x the price.
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Their testing is the same across the board. Every user out there uses their phones differently.

did you buy the moto g7 power?
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Asus rog phone 2 has better battery life than iPhone 11 pro max

which phone do you have?
 
did you buy the moto g7 power?
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which phone do you have?
I had an xs max but the pwm messed with my head. I have an 8+, OnePlus 7 pro and a g7 power that I use for work. You're right when you say the g7 power specs are laughable, but you can not kill the phone at work in a 16 hour day, and it's so cheap I don't care if I drop it or scratch it. I would have ordered a pro max, but the pwm on Apple phones messes with me. It's nice to see Apple stepping it up! Wish I could experience it.
 
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I had an xs max but the pwm messed with my head. I have an 8+, OnePlus 7 pro and a g7 power that I use for work. You're right when you say the g7 power specs are laughable, but you can not kill the phone at work in a 16 hour day, and it's so cheap I don't care if I drop it or scratch it. I would have ordered a pro max, but the pwm on Apple phones messes with me. It's nice to see Apple stepping it up! Wish I could experience it.


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Mine was setup from new, battery was still draining too fast. There was obviously an issue will see if 13.1.1 addresses it.

I probably wasn't affected because I turn stuff off i don't use
 
Good gravy. Deleted everything and started fresh this afternoon. Absolute night and day. Zero battery heat and almost no battery drain at all. Thanks everyone for your help!

That's the thing with iOS. Sometimes OTA updates causes a process to get stuck running in the background, causing mad battery drain. Been going on since iOS 5 days. It's crazy how Apple engineers still couldn't figure out what's going on.

This is why I always restore and set up as new when doing a major update.
 
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That's the thing with iOS. Sometimes OTA updates causes a process to get stuck running in the background, causing mad battery drain. Been going on since iOS 5 days. It's crazy how Apple engineers still couldn't figure out what's going on.

This is why I always restore and set up as new when doing a major update.

I'm still amazed. Crazy.
 
That's the thing with iOS. Sometimes OTA updates causes a process to get stuck running in the background, causing mad battery drain. Been going on since iOS 5 days. It's crazy how Apple engineers still couldn't figure out what's going on.

This is why I always restore and set up as new when doing a major update.
Yes. Always setup as new with the occasional DFU just for fun.
 
11 Pro Max 512gb here.
I’m off the plug at 7am and end my day at 11pm usually with 20-25% left.

That’s insane for me. My XS Max 512gb was down at 0% around 7pm usually.
 
I’m on the first battery cycle (just got the phone on Wednesday morning) and just went two full days (Thursday/today) without draining completely. I’m at 3% now and about to sit it on the charger for the night. This will be my first time going (basically) 0-to-100 while charging. Tomorrow should be interesting. For reference, I’m at 9 hours, 34 mins SOT total over the last two days according to my battery page in Settings.
 
I can’t imagine 5g being released next year. It’s so early in it’s life and the range is so short right now between towers.
 
I suspect battery life will take a step back next year with 5G.

Maybe the same battery life at best.

I wouldn’t be so sure we’re going to see 5G next year. Roll out by the networks is still pretty limited and the radios for the phones still have all kinds of problems. Seems very un-Apple for them to jump into such an unsettled situation with their flagship device.

2021 seems more likely to me at this point.
 
This is why I always restore and set up as new when doing a major update.

You don’t get annoyed by that? I have over 100 apps and 11,000 songs in my phone that I always download for offline use.

Will doing a DFU restore to 13.1.1 but restoring from iCloud or even with an iTunes backup make a difference? It would take me an entire day to download all my apps and organize them the exact way I have them setup now.
 
Last Saturday, the first full day I had the phone, it was off charger around 17 hours. During that time it was around 12 hours of screen time, along with a few thousand photos taken, social media, phone calls, text messages, etc. I think intended the day with about 40% battery left. So yes, battery life is phenomenal.

However, this IS a brand new phone. Let’s see how long that lasts.
 
Two answers, the second one admittedly not helpful...

Answer 1 - Really good and possibly bordering on spectacular. So good that it's a bit soon for me to tell because it's taken over 2 days to run down my phone with I estimate about 14 to 15 hours of screen-on time each time. I've only done 2 recharges so far and I'm not even certain if what I've seen so far is representative of what I might get in a week or two because people say it takes a few days for indexing and stuff to complete plus my usage involved a lot of probably heavier stuff than I usually do e.g. initial setup when the phone did get very warm, a couple of OS updates (13.1 and 13.1.1) and loads of app downloads and installs and then a lot of subsequent updates because a lot of the apps I use are getting updates for iOS 13.x compatibility. Once things have settled down I'll be curious to see how close to Apple's claimed 20 hours of video streaming I can get using that as a rough measure of the total on-screen time that I'm hoping for.

Normally I'm a pretty light user and a big part of my use is reading eBooks in Kindle in dark mode (totally black background). Doing that I lose about 1% every 30 minutes of reading. That's sitting at home so, although I'm connected to the mobile network (with a pretty weak 2 bar signal), the main data connection is my WiFi. If that reading-an-eBook drain is linear then I'm looking at close to 50 hours of eBook reading if that is all I am doing! This is the first iPhone I've had where I'd be comfortable going away for a 2 day weekend without a charger and probably even a 3 day long weekend.

Answer 2 - I wish I knew. I can approximate but I really miss the old Settings/Battery section where it told you screen-on time and total elapsed time since last charge. It does still show time when it last came off the charger so total elapsed time is pretty simple to calculate but for screen-on-time the only total it shows is for the current day so if it's been more than a day off the charger you have to work it out yourself by adding up all the individual app numbers or, slightly easier but way less accurate, putting the graph into last-10-day view and adding up the total-time bars from previous days. I really wish Apple would put back the summary numbers since last charge.
 
You don’t get annoyed by that? I have over 100 apps and 11,000 songs in my phone that I always download for offline use.

Will doing a DFU restore to 13.1.1 but restoring from iCloud or even with an iTunes backup make a difference? It would take me an entire day to download all my apps and organize them the exact way I have them setup now.

Oh I do. It's a major pain. It does take a couple of hours, but once you redownload the apps and arrange then the way you like, you're all set. My contacts, notes and texts are backed up to iCloud so I get all of them when I sign into iCloud. I don't really know if it'll work. I don't restore from backups, ever. But give it a shot. If it doesn't work, restore again and set up as new.
 
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