Well that’s one way of looking at it, I suppose, though I’m not entirely convinced Apple’s goal of maximum profitability is well served by reducing the high-margin Pro line to two niche sizes and giving the main one a significant price cut!
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iPad Pro How much will Apple raise the ipad Pro 12.9 price for mini-led?
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But you have to keep in mind they have also already put most of the “pro’ into the Air 4, so that’s giving you more for your dollar there. My guess is they aim to really drive volume there and they don’t believe they can or want the same volumes while they ramp up on mini-LED.
So when they raise the stales at the top end they’ve already pointed you to the Air.
Would be interesting to see a poll. I have they 12.9 and if I have to choose would take this size over the 11”. But I think 12” would be a more optimal size than 12.9. Just that little bit handier.
Also with the significant upgrading of the Air line there are less reasons to buy an 11” Pro. I think that was a very deliberate move on their part.
I'm expecting to see at least a $100 increase on the 12.9 Pro and perhaps as much as $200.
There's a captive audience that is willing to pay these prices for tablets and raising the price won't be a problem.
Basically, if people are willing to pay $999 for a base 12.9 Pro, they'll be willing to pay $1099 for the new model. And because the new model will have added features that will be "so amazing" and make the current model seem like a "laggy, stuttering mess", they will be happy to pay the higher price.
There's a captive audience that is willing to pay these prices for tablets and raising the price won't be a problem.
Basically, if people are willing to pay $999 for a base 12.9 Pro, they'll be willing to pay $1099 for the new model. And because the new model will have added features that will be "so amazing" and make the current model seem like a "laggy, stuttering mess", they will be happy to pay the higher price.
I can see the 200$ price increase IF Apple includes M1 variant in iPad Pro (Basically that it can virtually run X86 programs).
I don't see it happening tho, because it will be stepping hugely on the Mac-territory.
if they raise it a single penny count me out. The screen on the 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro are really outstanding and anything better isn't going to fundamentally add to the experience. It is getting very hard to justify the price of the iPad Pro given better spec'ed MacBook Pro with M1 processor is cheaper and iPad is hamstrung by iPadOS and lack of pro apps. If you really enjoy the iPad tablet experience but new iPad Air - the price is worth the performance but not the iPad Pro.
iPad Pro 11” and 12.9” will continue with outdated 8-bit 120hz IPs Displays
new iPad Pro XDR will cost $400 more. And will be targeted at Creative media Professional grade users using. New much improved 10-bit HDR 120hz OLED displays 11” version which has been leaked. And a 12.9” Mini-LED with 200 plus zones and 120hz ProMotion.
THE Biggest selling feature is that you will be able to import or use Color Profiles offered in the $8,000 Pro Display XDR on the new iPad PRO XDR. But new 2021 iPad Pros WILL NOT have that feature.
Both will be sold side by side so if you Are NOT a Media Professional you DO NOT have to spend an Extra $400 and 99.9% of the People here are NOT Media Professionals. BUT 99.9% of the people on this Forum WILL buy the Super expensive XDR Pro iPads be of Clout, or Swag, or they just want to flaunt the newest hottest tech.
iPad Pro XDR models will be sold in Unique Colors, a Matte Black, Version and new Colors like the Blue.
traditional iPad Pros will be offered in the same colors.
I don't believe this will be the case.
A) Apple would not sell 2 variants of 12.9. With storage customization yes, but not 2 identical devices with only difference being XDR-screen. It's going to be one of these, and seeing the leaks began 2019 for mini-led, its the XDR-screen. (Or whatever they might call it). In 2021 Macs will also have Mini-led and they are going "all in" on the mini-led thing.
B) Creative professionals also need Pencil and/or Magic Keyboard. Pencil is 100$ and Magic keyboard 400$ (for 12.9).
Currently base model iPad Pro is 1129€ in Finland. Add this +400€/$ + 400$/€ Magic keyboard= 1929€. Basically 2k device. Macbook Pro 13" M1 costs 512gb storage and 16gb ram 1939€. Mac's can also run truly professional X86 apps. If Apple would bring M1 to the iPad Pro for X86, then it might be the case, but like previously i have said it would step too much on the Mac category. It would cannibalize the sales of the Mac.
One reason why Apple can XDR-monitor for so high, is that competitive products for truly professional work do cost 10k+. And it's designed for Mac Pro that costs 6k+
If Apple will sell base model iPad Pro for around 1500-1600$ and let's say Samsung or Microsoft will bring out in a next year a Mini-Led display device for 1000$, it would look stupid. Given the fact that M1 Airs are very competitive, Apple does care about competition.
But we are talking Apple here, anything is possible but i'm not seeing this being the case. Mac Pro and XDR-monitor are the "niche" -market. Its the same thing in any other "luxuries" brands, like Mercedes-benz. Yes, they do sell S-series with AMG for outrages prices, but also they don't make them "that much" because they don't expect to sell them "that much". It's the item that rises the value of the brand overall.
It's the same in Mac Pro or XDR-monitor.
And if they would bring out 2 devices only difference being the screen. It would be saying "This is just an test to see how many of you like the mini-led, is it good?" This is very NOT Apple-like. "Can't innovate anymore, my ass!"
You don't even need M1 for that, you just need software support.
The Mac Mini Developer Transition Kit just used the A12Z, the same chipset used on the 2020 iPad Pros. And that one is essentially the same as the 2018 iPad Pro's A12X chipset, just with all GPU cores unlocked. Of course, the DTK had 16GB RAM versus 4-6GB on the iPad Pros.
If they actually do this, oh boy it will called with another name than "A13X". It will most likely start with M.
It will different name than basic "A13", because it would be selling more and be an huge feature.
M is branding and will likely be limited to Macs. Maybe hybrids if Apple ever makes those.
Performance-wise, I expect A14X/Z will be quite identical to M1. Maybe just missing stuff like Thunderbolt, etc.
GB5 single-core
1100 A12
1100 A12X
1100 A12Z
1300 A13
1600 A14
1700 M1
GB5 multi-core
2800 A12
3300 A13
4200 A14
4600 A12X
4600 A12Z
7300 M1
It’s not meant to be a replacement - they are repositioning the Air up, and will logically be pushing the pro up too but with a single model rather than the two they had before. New generation of pro will not have two sizes.
You keep claiming this and have explained your logic. That said, is this something you are merely floating and engaging in pure conjecture or are there hints of this somewhere in a roadmap or pipeline that provide some veracity to these claims?
12.9” versus 12” is a pretty significant decrease in usable real estate for those who are drawn to the 12.9”
Look at all the steps they have been taking to reorganise the value positioning of the Ioad product series.
It started with the base IPad, then what the did with the Air. So you can see what’s likely coming next.
Feel free to save the post and you can come back and says “thanks” a couple timesduring the course of the next 18 months. ?
Look at all the steps they have been taking to reorganise the value positioning of the Ioad product series.
It started with the base IPad, then what the did with the Air. So you can see what’s likely coming next.
Feel free to save the post and you can come back and says “thanks” a couple timesduring the course of next 18 months. ?
I don’t know that the 12.9 is as big a hit as you think. There seems to be a surprising amount of 2018 stock out there still that’s being shoved out the way now.
I can’t see Apple repeating that size in the next generation. And they’ve put the Air in competition with the existing 11”.
So all signs there point to a merger of sizes in next gen pro.
What you mean the new generation pro won’t have two sizes? Yeah it will
11 inch and 12.9 aren’t going anywhere. Nobody knows what apples plans are in the future but for now the models they have is what they will keep releasing
I really don’t want an M1 Mini LED iPad Pro. I can’t see any advantages.
im sticking with my 11” iPad Pro. And maybe a 14” Mini LED MacBook Pro with an M1X and new redesign.
IMO, Apple now has a pricing issue with the iPad Pro - the 12.9" models are now more expensive than MacBook Airs. That made sense when iPad Pros were much superior technology, but that is less obvious now. I guess a mini LED iPad Pro 12.9" will have better screen, speakers, etc than the MacBook Air, but functionally MacBook airs will have better processors and RAM...
while true the redesigned air though with mini led will likely start at 1199 so I think all products prices will go up I imagine.
Huh, I seem to recall my old posts getting censored. Maybe that was on another forum.