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Shanghaichica

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To be faie I bought a 299 ipad last year and to be honest I think it would basically do the same thing my ipad pro 12.9 does now. Basically watching content and browse from time to time. Since getting the fold 4 my ipad usage has gone down.

My macbook pro 16 inch can pretty much do many of the tasks i used to use the 12.9 pro for. So I may sell it to save some money. I got the 299 ipad for my son for watching his kid programmes but he's only 1 and has no interest in that at the moment.
Yes I’ve often thought the entry level ipad would be ok for me. The only thing I’d really miss is the quad speakers.
 
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Shanghaichica

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You can read books on the 10.2 iPad and 12.9. Not really an advantage in that area either
The 10.2 inch ipad would be easier to hold too. I don’t often read books on my ipad as I use my kindle. However, I would definitely pick the 10.2 inch over the 12.9 as the 12.9 wouid be heavier to hold for long periods. Now I’m shortly about to start Prince Harry’s book. I accidentally pre-ordered it on iBooks instead of amazon so I will be reading it on my iPad mini.
 
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Shanghaichica

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from Q1 2022, so not exactly the latest information but probably a trend:
“International Data Corporation (IDC) analyst Francisco Jeronimo has declared that the iPad lineup accounted for 31.8% of global tablet shipments between January and March, making Apple the number one brand. The brand’s success was spearheaded by the entry-level iPad (2021), which debuted in September and starts at $329 in the US. It was not only Apple’s best-selling iPad but also the most popular tablet worldwide.

In second place followed the well-reviewed and long-awaited iPad mini (2021). Apple’s mini-branded iPhones have severely underperformed in recent years — to the point that the size is being discontinued this September — but the latest data suggests that there’s still a lot of demand for mini-sized tablets.

Completing the top 3 was another iPad — the iPad Pro (2021). Apple’s high-end tablet comes in two sizes and starts at $799, but that high price hasn’t dissuaded customers, with the latest iPad Pro outselling every Android tablet on the market. That's certainly no mean feat.

The iPad (2021) and iPad mini were the world's best-selling tablets in Q1's best-selling tablets in Q1

Apple didn’t manage to capture the fourth spot on the best-sellers list, but the previous-gen iPad Air (2020) did end up becoming the fifth best-selling tablet overall in the first three months of 2022. That’s especially impressive considering the tablet originally launched in October 2020. But the iPad Air stands to make a big leap in the second quarter, as demand picks up following the iPad Air (2022) release in March.
The iPad (2021), iPad mini (2021), iPad Pro (2021), and iPad Air (2020) accounted for a combined 94% of Apple’s total tablet sales in Q1 2022. The remaining 6% is likely attributed to older models such as the iPad (2020) and the new iPad Air (2022). These four iPad models also captured a 30% share of the overall global tablet market.”
So, the best selling iPad is… The cheapest iPad!
The fact that these iPads are also bought in bulk by educational institutes, and such probably helps to bring them up even further.
It’s also probably the reason why the iPad doesn’t make as much money as the Mac, there are no Macs under $699 and their cheapest portable is even more than that.
Pleased to see the mini 6 doing so well. It’s such a lovely device.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I agree. Most don’t care though. A lot of people can’t get their head around buying a device they can only use for reading. My dad is one of those people.

Yeah that’s true and I can sort of see why people want a device to do all things, but a Kindle is a reader. Kindles are cheap enough just to have one dedicated for reading. Beats straining your eyes on an LCD screen in the dark in my opinion. You sound like me and get it lol.
 

rui no onna

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If you’re reading books, buy a Kindle, so much nicer than an iPad as it’s designed for that purpose and easier on your eyes.

I have quite a few Kindles but unless I have a headache, I still prefer using the iPad.

I read lots of content that's not on the Kindle store and it's just so much easier to sideload stuff to the iPad (just download online) versus the Kindle (pretty much needs to be connected to PC via USB as the experimental browser is useless).

Now if I'm going on vacation or a 16-hour flight, I make sure to load up my Kindle prior to the trip and read using that. Way better battery life than the iPad.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I have quite a few Kindles but unless I have a headache, I still prefer using the iPad.

I read lots of content that's not on the Kindle store and it's just so much easier to sideload stuff to the iPad (just download online) versus the Kindle (pretty much needs to be connected to PC via USB as the experimental browser is useless).

Now if I'm going on vacation or a 16-hour flight, I make sure to load up my Kindle prior to the trip and read using that. Way better battery life than the iPad.

Horses for courses I suppose, I have both an iPad and a Kindle but for me I prefer reading books on a Kindle. It’s kinder on my eyes and quite often I read in the dark if my wife is asleep or I wake up in the middle of the night. I wouldn’t try and convince anybody either way as it doesn’t affect me what others do.
 

jwolf6589

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I have quite a few Kindles but unless I have a headache, I still prefer using the iPad.

I read lots of content that's not on the Kindle store and it's just so much easier to sideload stuff to the iPad (just download online) versus the Kindle (pretty much needs to be connected to PC via USB as the experimental browser is useless).

Now if I'm going on vacation or a 16-hour flight, I make sure to load up my Kindle prior to the trip and read using that. Way better battery life than the iPad.
Yes but if you want to also watch movies you will need the iPad.
 
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jwolf6589

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Horses for courses I suppose, I have both an iPad and a Kindle but for me I prefer reading books on a Kindle. It’s kinder on my eyes and quite often I read in the dark if my wife is asleep or I wake up in the middle of the night. I wouldn’t try and convince anybody either way as it doesn’t affect me what others do.
I have no problems at all reading on the Mini 6 at night. No problem art all.
 
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Devyn89

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Horses for courses I suppose, I have both an iPad and a Kindle but for me I prefer reading books on a Kindle. It’s kinder on my eyes and quite often I read in the dark if my wife is asleep or I wake up in the middle of the night. I wouldn’t try and convince anybody either way as it doesn’t affect me what others do.

I’m the same way, I have a Kobo and my 12.9” iPad, I much prefer the kobo for reading because of the display, how light the reader is and far less distractions for my easily distracted brain.
 
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rui no onna

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Yes but if you want to also watch movies you will need the iPad.

I brought both 512GB LTE iPad Pro 10.5 and Kindle Paperwhite anyway. I just did all my reading exclusively on the Kindle during the flight since that one has longer battery life while the Pro 10.5 was only used for watching downloaded videos and some casual games.
 

Shanghaichica

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Horses for courses I suppose, I have both an iPad and a Kindle but for me I prefer reading books on a Kindle. It’s kinder on my eyes and quite often I read in the dark if my wife is asleep or I wake up in the middle of the night. I wouldn’t try and convince anybody either way as it doesn’t affect me what others do.
Yeah I have to agree with this. Even this book that I accidentally pre-ordered on iBooks rather than on Amazon I’d rather read on my kindle. Just not ready to spend another £13.99 for the privilege.
 
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Lounge vibes 05

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Pleased to see the mini 6 doing so well. It’s such a lovely device.
Agree, everyone has been going on and on about the Renaissance of the Mack, which is very much well deserved.
But the Renaissance of the iPad mini is truly an incredible turn-around, as it very much looked like that device was on the chopping block for several years.
It apparently got very very close to being discontinued in 2017, and went several years without an update.
Now it’s the second best selling iPad, and somehow has the best value for money in the entire iPad lineup right now.
 
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FeliApple

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I have quite a few Kindles but unless I have a headache, I still prefer using the iPad.

I read lots of content that's not on the Kindle store and it's just so much easier to sideload stuff to the iPad (just download online) versus the Kindle (pretty much needs to be connected to PC via USB as the experimental browser is useless).

Now if I'm going on vacation or a 16-hour flight, I make sure to load up my Kindle prior to the trip and read using that. Way better battery life than the iPad.
A cursory google search showed the Kindle Paperwhite lasts 28 hours of screen-on time. Is that really better than an iPad? My 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 9 got me 21.5 hours of screen-on time using iBooks on the only test like that I’ve ever done. Considering my Air 5 gives me about 20-23 hours of screen-on time with regular use, an iBooks extrapolation would give me around 30-35 hours of reading.
 

rui no onna

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A cursory google search showed the Kindle Paperwhite lasts 28 hours of screen-on time. Is that really better than an iPad? My 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 9 got me 21.5 hours of screen-on time using iBooks on the only test like that I’ve ever done. Considering my Air 5 gives me about 20-23 hours of screen-on time with regular use, an iBooks extrapolation would give me around 30-35 hours of reading.

I've never gotten battery life like that from my iPads. Best I've gotten is ~16 hours. My Pro 9.7 only gave me ~10-12 hours back when it was new on iOS 9. Nowadays, it's in the ~6-8 hour range.

Honestly, I think the number of iPad users who get battery life like you is probably in the 1%.
 

FeliApple

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I've never gotten battery life like that from my iPads. Best I've gotten is ~16 hours. My Pro 9.7 only gave me ~10-12 hours back when it was new on iOS 9. Nowadays, it's in the ~6-8 hour range.

Honestly, I think the number of iPad users who get battery life like you is probably in the 1%.
It was all reading though, I can’t get 21 hours with anything else. 100% iBooks with low brightness.

That said, I do know how to get the most of my devices in terms of battery life, which might be the reason why my 9.7-inch iPad Pro’s results on iOS 12 annoy me: after updating, I’m scraping 11 hours. That isn’t good. I tried everything I could think of and it’s still not great; so much so, that I can only blame iOS 12’s increased power consumption for the irreparable impact.

Even tuning the device in the best way I know got me 14.5 hours when it was new on iOS 9.

I could see the difference when the 11 Pro Max was launched: the vast majority of screenshots showed around 10 hours, and I thought “I can beat that with an iPhone 7+ on iOS 10, let alone my Xʀ on iOS 12”. So yeah, I know how to get good battery life, but I can’t fight iOS’ increased power consumption. I’m only able to get good results on original versions, irrespective of battery health. An 11 Pro Max should run circles around a Xʀ, let alone a 7+.
 

rui no onna

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It was all reading though, I can’t get 21 hours with anything else. 100% iBooks with low brightness.

Even pure reading (with Marvin) at 0-10% brightness, I’ve never gotten battery life like that on the iPad Pro 9.7.

Granted, while I have most notifications and background app refresh disabled, I don’t disable cellular/GPS, wifi, bluetooth and Find My.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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A cursory google search showed the Kindle Paperwhite lasts 28 hours of screen-on time. Is that really better than an iPad? My 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 9 got me 21.5 hours of screen-on time using iBooks on the only test like that I’ve ever done. Considering my Air 5 gives me about 20-23 hours of screen-on time with regular use, an iBooks extrapolation would give me around 30-35 hours of reading.

The screen is much better on the kindle though and that’s the main advantage when reading for me. I couldn’t read on my iPad for a significant amount of time in darkness or bright sunlight, but I can with a kindle. It’s good others can though as it’s one Jess device for them.
 

FeliApple

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Even pure reading (with Marvin) at 0-10% brightness, I’ve never gotten battery life like that on the iPad Pro 9.7.

Granted, while I have most notifications and background app refresh disabled, I don’t disable cellular/GPS, wifi, bluetooth and Find My.
Maybe iBooks is more efficient? And, most importantly, this was back on iOS 9. I wouldn’t be anywhere near those 21 hours now on iOS 12.

That might play a part too, especially cellular. Mine is a Wi-Fi model and everything was off (well, barring Find my iPad, which I’ll never disable).
 
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FeliApple

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The screen is much better on the kindle though and that’s the main advantage when reading for me. I couldn’t read on my iPad for a significant amount of time in darkness or bright sunlight, but I can with a kindle. It’s good others can though as it’s one Jess device for them.
Yeah, undeniably, the screen is better for reading on a Kindle.
 
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