I dont squint at all really, as it doesnt have 1366 x 766 resolution 
The iPod screen is built and acts as its intended function requires.
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HP 2133 UMPC: What the MacBook Air should have been.
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A review is posted at http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/hp_2133_mini_note_pc along with better pictures. It actually doesn't look bad and the reviewer says the keyboard is quite nice.
hmmmm.....
i actually quite like the form factor of the 2133... while it is not as stylish as my MBA, it's not an ugly machine by any means. To be honest, the 2133 is close to the replacement I wanted for my old 12 inch powerbook.
Lets face it, the macbook air is not an ultraportable machine, it is simply a light low end macbook.... if the 2133 could run OS X, i would defiantly get one.
i actually quite like the form factor of the 2133... while it is not as stylish as my MBA, it's not an ugly machine by any means. To be honest, the 2133 is close to the replacement I wanted for my old 12 inch powerbook.
Lets face it, the macbook air is not an ultraportable machine, it is simply a light low end macbook.... if the 2133 could run OS X, i would defiantly get one.
like several product categories before, other companies are roughly defining the borders of a product niche, opening up public acceptance..
then with a large enough market potential becomes too enticing to ignore, I think an apple tablet will come out (xmas this year, perhaps? hop..)!!
if it's under $1000, it will do soooo well!
then with a large enough market potential becomes too enticing to ignore, I think an apple tablet will come out (xmas this year, perhaps? hop..)!!
if it's under $1000, it will do soooo well!
So how do you like squinting at your iPod Touch?
That's a pretty silly argument considering you hold an iPhone or Touch much closer to your face then you ever would a laptop.
I agree.
The MBA is the following:
- High-end
- Mid-level performance (despite what people think; it's got a 1.6GHz C2D)
- 1 computer for usage anywhere (thinnote)
- Mainstream + businesses
The HP and EEE are the following:
- Low-end
- Basic performance (VIA or Celeron ULV, Atom in the future)
- 1 computer for usage anywhere for basic users (mini-note)
- Secondary computer for on-the-go for power users
- Mainstream + education + businesses
That thing is just plain ugly, plain and simple. The MacBook Air wins on looks alone. I would never use this laptop that you have linked to simply because of the looks of it. I can't believe people would buy that.
It's no Macbook Air, but certainly wouldn't call HP 2133 "ugly". I actually think it looks cool, in an art deco sort of way. Nice solid looking metal casing, and the keyboard looks like it's be a pleasure to type on. One thing for sure - this is an EEE killer.
I'm with you on that. The metal finish etc is pretty nice and indeed compared to the look of the eePc, it looks more substantial.
I agree it's no Air but I don't think it's ugly. The metal case seems to be nice and sleek and the keyboard is actually a coated metal. The keyboard is, I think, 92% of full size. Of course it doesn't include OSX and that is it's major flaw but other wise it's not bad just for travel.
There's no optical drive? Where are all the numbtards who were complaining about the MacMagazine Air not having an internal optical drive?
The processor in the HP (Hunk-o-Poo) is beyond a joke.
The processor in the HP (Hunk-o-Poo) is beyond a joke.
the asus ee has 2gb to 20gb of storage depending on the model, dont be hating. I have the 4gb version and it workd great with xp, i keep my storage on 16gb SDHC card. remeber, for 400 bucks you get a pretty awesome machine, i think the EEE and the 2133 beat the crap out of the MBA in terms of price/feature/usage abilities. Honestly you cant compare the 2 because they have differnt target audiences. the eee basically imposible to type on for some people. the 2133 and MBA have good keyboards so maybe they can be compared but once again theres big differences between them. I would get a MBA but i dont have 3k lying around, ill stick with my eee because it suits my needs and a price i like.
I'm debating on wether getting an EEE PC or HP MINI as a second computer to lug back and forth to school. Either will fit nicely in my backpack and the SSD make them both quick to boot to do some web surfing or take notes in class. Because of the price on both systems $399 4GB EEE PC with Windows XP or $499 HP Mini with Linux I wouldnt give it a second thought to tossing it in my backback. With the MacBook Air I would.
The Eee suits me perfectly - the 900 series has 12GB on-board memory plus you can squeeze an extra 16GB in there with a high capacity SD card. Plenty of room to run XP, put Office 2003 on (or at least Excel, Word and PP) and enough storage as you can always back up to an external HDD or your desktop.
Danger!Will hit the nail on the head - because the Eee is so cheap you can chuck it in your bag an not worry about it too much whereas I'd feel nervous doing that with the Air.
Danger!Will hit the nail on the head - because the Eee is so cheap you can chuck it in your bag an not worry about it too much whereas I'd feel nervous doing that with the Air.
Well, reguarding an apple equivilent...
Certainly a 10" screen would be suitable. a couple of inches larger than the eee, but its still small but gives better visability. a resolution of around 1200x800 would work fine for me.
Being roughly thick as a macbook would be 'fine' as well, if they can shave a few mm off that'll be great however.
also, the screen's bezel shoulden't be more than 1cm, the 2.5 or so cm bezel around the macbooks is pretty unessaray. even the air and macbook would become far more portable if they can shave that down.
Processor wise they might as well go for the atom, the custom chipset used in the air may be too expensive to put in considering the desired ($500-800) price range
Storage can be done by an average hard disc, maybe a 1.8 one like the types used in the ipod classic, they could offer a SSD but OS X is so big these days that anything under 64 would be crippling
CD drive is unessary on such a device, just use the same software on the macbook air if its needed.
however... batterys, offering a built in smaller battery, and a removeable battery with standard and extended variants would be highly desirable. I like the air, i'd love it if they shaved the footprint down a couple of inches by trimming that bezel space. But what puts a bitter taste in my mouth about it is the battery. an extended battery is a MUST for an ultraportable to get any realistic use out of it. The day it was announced i thought up an extended battery system for the Air, rather than a cumbersome hook on one. have a kind of magsave attachment on the underside for the attachment of an extended battery.
If apple can deliver one of these i may consider dropping my macbook for a 'macbook mini' like this, i don't think what i laid out is espessily unreasonable.. BUT apple could save face on the air by doing a couple of the things i sugested. i may think about one of those too. Whew, long post.
Certainly a 10" screen would be suitable. a couple of inches larger than the eee, but its still small but gives better visability. a resolution of around 1200x800 would work fine for me.
Being roughly thick as a macbook would be 'fine' as well, if they can shave a few mm off that'll be great however.
also, the screen's bezel shoulden't be more than 1cm, the 2.5 or so cm bezel around the macbooks is pretty unessaray. even the air and macbook would become far more portable if they can shave that down.
Processor wise they might as well go for the atom, the custom chipset used in the air may be too expensive to put in considering the desired ($500-800) price range
Storage can be done by an average hard disc, maybe a 1.8 one like the types used in the ipod classic, they could offer a SSD but OS X is so big these days that anything under 64 would be crippling
CD drive is unessary on such a device, just use the same software on the macbook air if its needed.
however... batterys, offering a built in smaller battery, and a removeable battery with standard and extended variants would be highly desirable. I like the air, i'd love it if they shaved the footprint down a couple of inches by trimming that bezel space. But what puts a bitter taste in my mouth about it is the battery. an extended battery is a MUST for an ultraportable to get any realistic use out of it. The day it was announced i thought up an extended battery system for the Air, rather than a cumbersome hook on one. have a kind of magsave attachment on the underside for the attachment of an extended battery.
If apple can deliver one of these i may consider dropping my macbook for a 'macbook mini' like this, i don't think what i laid out is espessily unreasonable.. BUT apple could save face on the air by doing a couple of the things i sugested. i may think about one of those too. Whew, long post.
I think the HP UMPC looks great, it would be handy for me to carry round for quick internet use (via my 3g broadband USB). A linux model I hope is available as i'd rather not use Vista. That said I've got access to XP fundamentals edition, which for what I'd want something like this for is ideal.
O.k. It's not the Air, but it's trying to be either. Also it's not the most powerful device, but it serves a function. I'm seriously looking at an ultra portable mini laptop (this and eee pc seem to fit the bill). Sadly the Air, albeit light isn't small enough for me.
O.k. It's not the Air, but it's trying to be either. Also it's not the most powerful device, but it serves a function. I'm seriously looking at an ultra portable mini laptop (this and eee pc seem to fit the bill). Sadly the Air, albeit light isn't small enough for me.