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blairh

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Well, the OP doesn't have that problem ever with his S4, so clearly they must be using it incorrectly. ;)

I have never come close to doing this. Ever.

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So what you're saying is HTC makes a design change to what had previously been the norm and it's a flaw, Samsung makes a design change to what's also previously been the norm and it's a benefit. Gotcha. :rolleyes:



Can't speak for others, but I'm dismissing your opinions because you're positioning them as fact, not because you don't own the One. You express your opinion, which of course is perfectly fine. However when someone comes back and explains their own opinion, which is in opposition to yours, you dismiss it. Everything expressed in this thread is opinion--stop trying to pass yours off as more worthy and maybe the animosity will subside.

Or maybe Samsung made the right decision with a change and HTC did not? Really difficult to comprehend?

That's actually not what has happened in this thread. Some people are dismissing my opinions. I never once said another person's opinion is wrong.
 

jamojamo

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I have never come close to doing this. Ever.

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Or maybe Samsung made the right decision with a change and HTC did not? Really difficult to comprehend?

That's actually not what has happened in this thread. Some people are dismissing my opinions. I never once said another person's opinion is wrong.

Just because you don't come out and say someone's opinion is wrong it doesn't mean you aren't challenging others on their "opinions and preferences".

See your challenges to ucfgrad, I especially love the delicious irony of you questioning him as to whether he has ever used a 5" because his opinion may change if he did. :rolleyes:

Step back and see how that looks to a completely neutral reader. You want people to take your opinion as valid despite never using the HTC yet you can't take his opinion as valid because he may not have used a 5" screen.

Don't know why I am surprised, it's par for the course for this sub-forum.

CLASSIC!

I guess Samsung has their own "Reality Distortion Field" going! Kudos to them!
 

blairh

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Just because you don't come out and say someone's opinion is wrong it doesn't mean you aren't challenging others on their "opinions and preferences".

See your challenges to ucfgrad, I especially love the delicious irony of you questioning him as to whether he has ever used a 5" because his opinion may change if he did. :rolleyes:

Step back and see how that looks to a completely neutral reader. You want people to take your opinion as valid despite never using the HTC yet you can't take his opinion as valid because he may not have used a 5" screen.

Don't know why I am surprised, it's par for the course for this sub-forum.

CLASSIC!

I guess Samsung has their own "Reality Distortion Field" going! Kudos to them!

1. He wasn't expressing an opinion or preference. He/she stated they would not have considered the One if it had a 5" screen. My general feeling is that anyone who would happily use a 4.7" can also use a phone with a 5" screen. I question his/her original statement. I don't see what is wrong with that at all.

2. If someone wants to dismiss my original thoughts on the One so be it. I can't stress that enough. But I think that's a ridiculous stance to take and I'd rather not keep repeating that again and again.

It's just amazing how many of you can't discuss the One and feel the need to insult me or infer that what I'm originally stating is completely invalid. It's ruining what is otherwise a potential opportunity to discuss the One by others.

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Well this thread has gone places. Berating OP because he doesn't like the HTC One. Well done folks.:eek:

It's amazing and a poor reflection of this forum and its members. Thank you for saying the truth.
 

tbayrgs

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Just because you don't come out and say someone's opinion is wrong it doesn't mean you aren't challenging others on their "opinions and preferences".

See your challenges to ucfgrad, I especially love the delicious irony of you questioning him as to whether he has ever used a 5" because his opinion may change if he did. :rolleyes:

Step back and see how that looks to a completely neutral reader. You want people to take your opinion as valid despite never using the HTC yet you can't take his opinion as valid because he may not have used a 5" screen.

Don't know why I am surprised, it's par for the course for this sub-forum.

CLASSIC!

I guess Samsung has their own "Reality Distortion Field" going! Kudos to them!

Agreed. And shame on me for continuing to add to this bickering and nonsense--with that I'm moving on.
 

blairh

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Agreed. And shame on me for continuing to add to this bickering and nonsense--with that I'm moving on.

Agreed on what? You can't be a part of a civilized conversation about the One. End of story.
 

tbayrgs

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Alright, I lied.

It's just amazing how many of you can't discuss the One and feel the need to insult me or infer that what I'm originally stating is completely invalid. It's ruining what is otherwise a potential opportunity to discuss the One by others.

It all boils down to this--your belief that what you stated cannot be wrong. That's the crux of this entire drama--you don't believe your wrong in any way and if someone calls you on it, you pout like a baby that we're picking on you.

Why are your preferences (because that's all they are) any more valid than mine? You don't like the hardware buttons--I do. Why are you right?

Express your opinion to your heart's content, just stop trying to pass it off as the only valid option.
 

pivo6

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Well this thread has gone places. Berating OP because he doesn't like the HTC One. Well done folks.:eek:

No. The OP is being berated because he's critical of a product he's used for 10 minutes.

While the OP's list may bother him during his brief usage of the One, none of those listed bother me at all. To each their own.
 

2298754

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While the OP's list may bother him during his brief usage of the One, none of those listed bother me at all. To each their own.

Good for you. He made his choice. You made yours. Why does he need to be picked apart for saying something negative about the darling HTC One?

In fact, I agree with OP. It's hilarious how overrated the HTC One really is.
 

tbayrgs

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Agreed on what? You can't be a part of a civilized conversation about the One. End of story.

Whatever you say bud. No point in arguing any further as it's clearly not getting anywhere. Now truly moving on. Bash away all you like.
 

blairh

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Alright, I lied.



It all boils down to this--your belief that what you stated cannot be wrong. That's the crux of this entire drama--you don't believe your wrong in any way and if someone calls you on it, you pout like a baby that we're picking on you.

Why are your preferences (because that's all they are) any more valid than mine? You don't like the hardware buttons--I do. Why are you right?

Express your opinion to your heart's content, just stop trying to pass it off as the only valid option.

Where exactly have I been called out about an opinion and I pout like a baby? Please show me where this has happened.

Are we really talking preferences here? I originally stated opinions about the phone. That's a fact. I never said what I felt was more valid than what you or others feel. I'm not jumping to any of these conclusions. You are for some reason I cannot comprehend.

I never once said or passed it off as the only valid option. Stop projecting BS onto me. I simply stated opinions to begin with. Many of you can't handle that judging by some of the responses here.

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Whatever you say bud. No point in arguing any further as it's clearly not getting anywhere. Now truly moving on. Bash away all you like.

I never bashed you from the beginning. Still haven't.
 
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2298754

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It's amazing and a poor reflection of this forum and its members. Thank you for saying the truth.

lol, it's funny how most people are completely ok with trashing on the iPhone or Samsung products on here. But when HTC gets insulted, OMG. **** hits the fan. The resident HTC apologists are always just a click away, waiting to defend their beloved crumbling company.
 

tbayrgs

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I never bashed you from the beginning. Still haven't. Man you are messed up.

Sigh...didn't realize I needed to spell it out, considering it's the topic of your thread. Bash away on the One all you like.
 

2298754

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Sigh...didn't realize I needed to spell it out, considering it's the topic of your thread.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have read. He is critiquing the HTC One. YOU are not the HTC One. You were never bashed directly.

Why are you feeling offended by it? :rolleyes:
 

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Good for you. He made his choice. You made yours. Why does he need to be picked apart for saying something negative about the darling HTC One?

In fact, I agree with OP. It's hilarious how overrated the HTC One really is.
I wont try to defend my BELOVED crumbling company. I'm aware of HTC's financial dire straits. One is like the Sega Dreamcast of cell phones.

But seriously, overrated? Haha!

Name me a better phone at this moment. I might give u that cheap plasticky S4 over it. Dont use sales as an argument here. The gap between S4 vs One is not Grand Canyon wide. If One is overrated than S4 is as overrated just like S3 was last year.

What else is better than the One right now?

iPhone 5/5s - Put Jelly Bean on there and iPhone 5/5s is really a midrange phone designed for people with small hands. Its only ace in its hole is iOS and we all Android has surpassed it already. Fingerprint scanner? Motorola Atrix anyone?

Note II? A Giant PLASTIC phone with a stylus. Touch"Wizzz" still looks cartoony. Sammy bust out phones faster than you can say diarrhea. Now they release a Galaxy Grand and Mega so it doesnt make a GN2 owner feel anymore special because it isnt the biggest plastic phone anymore.

Xperia Z? Annoying flaps, uglier in person, hard to handle, terrible viewing angles, some lag, stupid fingerprint magnet glass back. I much prefer the ZR but even that has its quirks. No wonder Sony is losing to Samsung in most electronics.

Nexus 4? Crap camera, crap battery, glass back that breaks easier than eggs if the temperature in the room even changes.

Some random Windows Phone or BB Z10? LOL. Are Nokia and BlackBerry even relevant anymore? Nokia should have allied with Android when they had a chance before that Microsoft trojan horse named Elop came along and BlackBerry remained being like BlackBerry for too long.

The only phone that I see give One a run for its money in terms of looks and performance is the LENOVO K900. Google it if you dont know it yet. Even the K900 has no LTE or microSD slot. Saw it yesterday. Fast and smooth but it looks like the Xperia Z grew up. Taller than most of my old cordless phones from the 90's.

I can go on and on. But I will wait for your answer. I need to be amused.
 
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mclld

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The HTC One is the most overhyped p[hone imo in recent memory, I will take the "cheap", "junk" plastic built gs4 anyday of the week. I would even take the GS3 over it
 

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I wont try to defend my BELOVED crumbling company. I'm aware of HTC's financial dire straits. One is like the Sega Dreamcast of cell phones.

But seriously, overrated? Haha!

I can go on and on. But I will wait for your answer. I need to be amused.

Looks like you are too hung up on appearances. Not going to waste my time arguing with you or any of the HTC fanboys in here. I own both phones and have owned every single phone that you gave us your two cents on. I will agree on the Nexus 4 and XPERIA Z. That's it.

Get back to me when you can have a civilized (and grown-up) conversation without resorting to stupid BS statements, like "cheap plasticky GS4, etc"
 

Peterg2

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I continually need to remind myself, that, especially in this sub-forum, there is a great range in ages and maturity levels of posters (and maturity does not follow the age). Furthermore, for some reason, some posters seem to have massive insecurities about what they buy and need to practise purchase validation.

"It is not enough that I love my phone but others must love it too. I also need to denigrate competitive phones as that just re-affirms that I made the best decision I could have made". A phone is not one's partner, sibling or parent.

Really sad.

I like my HTC One but I can very easily understand why someone, with different needs and usage patterns, may prefer the S4 (specifically the S4 active).

Pointless, of course, but this is what this sub-forum has degenerated into in many threads.

Phone Wars.
 

coldjeanzzz

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Every device has its flaws, I find the ones you listed to indeed be flaws but they're minor and don't affect my usage in any way. I'm used to the power and home button placements, I have no problem with the notification light. I agree that the volume buttons are too flush but again, just minor. I wouldn't call the phone a "mess" because of things like this. The phone kills it in the important areas.

Also I don't understand why people are so determined to get rid of Blinkfeed. I understand personal preference, but why? What's wrong with it? It gives you up to date news stories and social media stream in a super smooth and convenient place that you can place on a different screen.
 

tbayrgs

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This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have read. He is critiquing the HTC One. YOU are not the HTC One. You were never bashed directly.

Why are you feeling offended by it? :rolleyes:

You are making no sense at this point.

As you both are clearly misunderstanding my initial 'Bash all you like' comment, I'll try to clarify one last time.

I originally stated 'Bash away all you like', meaning continue to bash away on the HTC One--that's it, nothing more. Blairh seems to believe I was referring to myself so I spelled it out further in my next post:

Bash away on the One all you like.
also making reference to the title of this thread--clearly he's identifying what's he feels is wrong with the HTC One.

I've taken no offense to criticism of the One nor do I take it personally--why would I? I certainly didn't design it or produce it. It's my device of choice right now and simply pointed out that blairh's opinions regarding the device aren't absolute, that some of his perceived flaws are actually preferred by me and others (i.e. the power button, nearly flush volume rocker). My issues in this discussion simply pertained to what I saw as the OPs inability to realize that just because he found elements of the One undesirable doesn't mean it's that way for everyone.

That being said, the tone in here certainly went sideways and I apologize for any part of it that I contributed.

Yes, the HTC One is far from perfect but it don't think it's in as bad a shape as the OP states. Could there be changes that might have improved it? Certainly. However, as much as the OP feels these flaws ruined the device for him, there are other like myself that may not have preferred it that way. I like the hardware button layout, prefer the dual speakers vs. losing them for either more display or a smaller device, like the subtle notification light hidden in the speaker grill, and like Blindfeed. I don't like how they failed to use the HTC logo/area as a capacity button, agree that a user should be able to disable Blinkfeed, would have preferred a multicolor notification LED (vs. just green/red) and don't care either way that the home button is on the lower left.
 

blairh

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I continually need to remind myself, that, especially in this sub-forum, there is a great range in ages and maturity levels of posters (and maturity does not follow the age). Furthermore, for some reason, some posters seem to have massive insecurities about what they buy and need to practise purchase validation.

"It is not enough that I love my phone but others must love it too. I also need to denigrate competitive phones as that just re-affirms that I made the best decision I could have made". A phone is not one's partner, sibling or parent.

Really sad.

I like my HTC One but I can very easily understand why someone, with different needs and usage patterns, may prefer the S4 (specifically the S4 active).

Pointless, of course, but this is what this sub-forum has degenerated into in many threads.

Phone Wars.

If you are speaking directly about me please know that this is the most absurd thing ever directed at me in my years at this forum.
 

blairh

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My issues in this discussion simply pertained to what I saw as the OPs inability to realize that just because he found elements of the One undesirable doesn't mean it's that way for everyone.

And yet I never once exhibited this behavior in the entire thread. Even my thread title states this is just my opinion. You are a piece of work.

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Your thread speaks for itself. This thread is not going in any productive direction.

Sadly that has nothing to do with my responses here. And honestly nothing coming from you means anything to me given what you wrote prior. You have completely jumped to both wrong and incredibly absurd conclusions with respect to my words in this thread.
 
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