You have got to step away from this thread buddy, as you're getting worked up over nothing. I was just trying to clarify my previous comments and actually apologized to you, and this is your response.
Classy.
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HTC One Is A Mess (My Opinion Only)
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You have got to step away from this thread buddy, as you're getting worked up over nothing. I was just trying to clarify my previous comments and actually apologized to you, and this is your response.
Classy.
Have to agree with the OP on every point except the notification light. I love that it's discreetly hidden away and small.
However, I wouldn't call the One a mess.
Also, you forgot to mention the pathetically overhyped camera.
However, I wouldn't call the One a mess.
Also, you forgot to mention the pathetically overhyped camera.
. You have got to step away from this thread buddy, as you're getting worked up over nothing. I was just trying to clarify my previous comments and actually apologized to you, and this is your response.
Classy.
I don't think you get it. You stated something completely false about me in your post and I'm pointing out how wrong you are. Is it 'classy' to just skip over the part where you are dead wrong about my behavior here? I think you need to step away.
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Others seem to agree with you regarding the camera. My overall understanding of the One camera is that it only shines in dark conditions. Also 4 MP limits your ability to enlarge your photos at some point size wise if you wanted to.
Only marginally.
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This is a very very good point, and others have made similar points in this thread.
What will HTC do next year for their 2014 phones? I notice already that every phone coming from them (HTC One Mini, HTC One Max, HTC Zara) all sport the two button format with the useless HTC logo. Is this something they're committed to only for the rest of this year's phones? Or for all future devices into the foreseeable future?
The One (2014) should have a three button layout. There is no reason why the HTC logo shouldn't be made usable (and it is usable -- proven by hackers). Just makes no sense.
The HTC logo being the home button would be symbolic and help with brand recognition, too. HTC is home.
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Here's the beauty of the world of Android. HTC One not for you? Get the S4. There are many other options.
Despite what I feel are obvious flaws to the One, it is a hell of a lot more impressive than the One X. In that regard HTC seems to be going in the right direction.
Question of course becomes what HTC will offer in 2014. What will be the finances of the company? Is Chou still around by then? Will they finally get the buttons right? Making the HTC logo the home button would have been a great decision.
The layout and all that can be a preference thing. I write with my left but I'm usually right-handed. The power on the top left is no biggie. Gotten used to it since owning a Nexus One. And the two button layout is just something I easily adapted to. Sense 5 is also not that bad. Still looks a helluva alot better than TouchWiz. I'm also into using BlinkFeed. Better to glance on news feeds than checking Facebook all day.
The only true deal breakers I see with the One is the camera, lack of microSD slot, and no removable battery. The only OVERRATED abt the One was the test for WiFi. 10 hrs? Not even close. More like 5 hrs. I can get abt 6-7 hrs screen time just texting.
Cam takes blurry photos and macro looks bad. Like in an iPhone 4 cam with better low light capability.
Even being AWARE of all its flaws, I still havent found a better phone at this moment. Trust me, I have looked and looked. I was already studying up on the One two months before I ever got it. I was aware of its flaws but I didnt like the other phones' flaws more. Check PhoneDog ranking. HTC One has been #1 for weeks by fans and experts alike. I can see why. Samsung-like specs with Apple's premium finish. HTC basically MIXED two of the most popular smartphone vendors style without aping them. Did HTC tried to copycat Samsung ugly TouchWiz skin? Nope. Still added WiFi ac and IR blaster. Did HTC copy Apple's design style? Nope! HTC has been making metal unibody for years.
I even took apart every little nuisances from every flagship out there and talk abt phones hardly anyone knows unless they google it. I study and work around phones all day. I still havent found multiple phones better than the One. The S4 might be the only but that is like the iPhone 4s was to the 4. Who wants to keep holding onto that cheap feeling plastic design for another two years? Sammy has no real sense of style that they have to copy their prev gen flagship. Even dual frontal speakers is a clever idea. Beats (no pun intended) turning over a phone or listening to one tiny mono speaker on the bottom. Dont be surprised if Sammy and Apple copy it and then do heavy marketing like they are the good guys that came up with it.
The only true deal breakers I see with the One is the camera, lack of microSD slot, and no removable battery. The only OVERRATED abt the One was the test for WiFi. 10 hrs? Not even close. More like 5 hrs. I can get abt 6-7 hrs screen time just texting.
Cam takes blurry photos and macro looks bad. Like in an iPhone 4 cam with better low light capability.
Even being AWARE of all its flaws, I still havent found a better phone at this moment. Trust me, I have looked and looked. I was already studying up on the One two months before I ever got it. I was aware of its flaws but I didnt like the other phones' flaws more. Check PhoneDog ranking. HTC One has been #1 for weeks by fans and experts alike. I can see why. Samsung-like specs with Apple's premium finish. HTC basically MIXED two of the most popular smartphone vendors style without aping them. Did HTC tried to copycat Samsung ugly TouchWiz skin? Nope. Still added WiFi ac and IR blaster. Did HTC copy Apple's design style? Nope! HTC has been making metal unibody for years.
I even took apart every little nuisances from every flagship out there and talk abt phones hardly anyone knows unless they google it. I study and work around phones all day. I still havent found multiple phones better than the One. The S4 might be the only but that is like the iPhone 4s was to the 4. Who wants to keep holding onto that cheap feeling plastic design for another two years? Sammy has no real sense of style that they have to copy their prev gen flagship. Even dual frontal speakers is a clever idea. Beats (no pun intended) turning over a phone or listening to one tiny mono speaker on the bottom. Dont be surprised if Sammy and Apple copy it and then do heavy marketing like they are the good guys that came up with it.
Huge iPhone fan but i have to agree with you. My One is amazing. Build, camera and sense included.
In fairness....
At least the OP didn't feel the need to pretend he actually owns one to pick it apart. I mean how sad would you have to be to do that?
We're all still waiting for that photo..... Just sayin......
At least the OP didn't feel the need to pretend he actually owns one to pick it apart. I mean how sad would you have to be to do that?
We're all still waiting for that photo..... Just sayin......
For One users having issues with the awkwardly placed power button on the left, use the Motion Actions app. Dont need to constantly wake it up with the power button in such a TALL phone that makes it awkward to press at times with one hand.
This is one of the few things I dislike with Android phones. Wearing out the POWER button until it dies or becomes unresponsive since it lacks the mechanical home button of an iPhone. I knew about this issue with the Nexus One before owning it. With the N1, I used Screen Off and Lock and then No Lock. I wake it up with the volume buttons. Power button on my unrooted Nexus One still works great. This setup worked up until ICS.
By Jelly Bean, you couldnt use volume buttons to wake up the screen. I've tried apps like waving my hand over the accelerameter sensor and what not. It didnt work much for me. HTC One is known to go into DEEP SLEEP which is a good and bad thing. Good since it prevents wakelocks. So battery life for standby becomes less affected. Bad is it prevents something like the Motion Actions app to not always work everytime.
But I suggest using Motion Actions app anyway. You shake the phone and the screen will wake up if it doesnt go into a deep sleep. Not always 100% but still prevents wearing out your power button and pressing it all the time.
My settings is- Screen Off - Wake Up, 1 sec (1000 ms) shake duration, shake force (15g), and check on vibrate. Try to make the shake force heavy instead of the default setting of 7g. App can wake up the screen if phone is bouncing around in your pocket and kill more battery without you actually using it. Not the perfect solution but it works best for me.
This is one of the few things I dislike with Android phones. Wearing out the POWER button until it dies or becomes unresponsive since it lacks the mechanical home button of an iPhone. I knew about this issue with the Nexus One before owning it. With the N1, I used Screen Off and Lock and then No Lock. I wake it up with the volume buttons. Power button on my unrooted Nexus One still works great. This setup worked up until ICS.
By Jelly Bean, you couldnt use volume buttons to wake up the screen. I've tried apps like waving my hand over the accelerameter sensor and what not. It didnt work much for me. HTC One is known to go into DEEP SLEEP which is a good and bad thing. Good since it prevents wakelocks. So battery life for standby becomes less affected. Bad is it prevents something like the Motion Actions app to not always work everytime.
But I suggest using Motion Actions app anyway. You shake the phone and the screen will wake up if it doesnt go into a deep sleep. Not always 100% but still prevents wearing out your power button and pressing it all the time.
My settings is- Screen Off - Wake Up, 1 sec (1000 ms) shake duration, shake force (15g), and check on vibrate. Try to make the shake force heavy instead of the default setting of 7g. App can wake up the screen if phone is bouncing around in your pocket and kill more battery without you actually using it. Not the perfect solution but it works best for me.
The only time I press the power button is to turn on the device. To put my device to sleep I use "swipe home" along with "sleep and lock screen" app.
To every HTC one user I highly highly recommend downloading "swipe home" app.
For more check this thread out: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1623258/
To every HTC one user I highly highly recommend downloading "swipe home" app.
For more check this thread out: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1623258/
Also still use the SCREEN OFF AND LOCK app along with Motion Actions.
Prevents having to press the power button if you want your screen to turn off. Configuration is put it the in the pull down notification and put a check on Delay device locking. Much closer reach with your thumb reaching the pull down panel than your pointer finger trying to reach the power button.
Easier to lock phone. I use the "Zoom Out and Z-Shaped Swipe" animation when the screen turns off. Looks the smoothest. Then shake it a few seconds later and Motion Action will wake it up again.
Prevents having to press the power button if you want your screen to turn off. Configuration is put it the in the pull down notification and put a check on Delay device locking. Much closer reach with your thumb reaching the pull down panel than your pointer finger trying to reach the power button.
Easier to lock phone. I use the "Zoom Out and Z-Shaped Swipe" animation when the screen turns off. Looks the smoothest. Then shake it a few seconds later and Motion Action will wake it up again.
Needing to start one's own thread on a topic with opinions offered elsewhere for months now about specific smartphone calls more to an agenda, trying to justify a purchase, or perhaps as far as needing personal attention which has been lacked elsewhere.
Now that truly is a mess. And OP if you feel you need to tell me not to tell you where to post, well you should go back now and read some forum guidelines you seemed to obviously missed now in the timeframe you have been a member here. And unless I am hallucinating, it is generally the guideline on every forum I have ever participated. You have far exceeded just offering an opinion which could have EASILY been done elsewhere. But then again, I already did spell that out in my first paragraph probably why it wasn't.
Now that truly is a mess. And OP if you feel you need to tell me not to tell you where to post, well you should go back now and read some forum guidelines you seemed to obviously missed now in the timeframe you have been a member here. And unless I am hallucinating, it is generally the guideline on every forum I have ever participated. You have far exceeded just offering an opinion which could have EASILY been done elsewhere. But then again, I already did spell that out in my first paragraph probably why it wasn't.
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You're being absurd. Absolutely absurd. Both in your ridiculous conclusions and words directed at me. Again, you have no business telling me not to start a thread about anything. I am violating no rules on this forum. For the love of God do not tell me where and how I should express opinions on this forum. This is my final message directed at you.
If anybody wants to discuss the One, I'm all ears. If you want to hurl insults at me and tell me what my 'true' motivations for my OP are, I will simply ignore you from now on. For some reason a lot of people are taking personal offense to my conclusions regarding a specific smartphone. I've also noticed that the ones being most hostile towards me on this forum are One owners. I will no longer be responding to anything that isn't a civilized and substantial back and forth.
I'll discuss the One in a single statement, the S4 is a mess. I do not have to list reasons why as I already did that in a topic already started on another thread in which others have done as well.
You can get back to your koolaid and agenda since this will be my last post to your mess!
Key word is "for you".
For example, I'm still getting used to Samsung having the power button on the right side and the menu button on the far left. Why? Because I'm so used to the menu button being on the right side and the power being up top as I'm a long time HTC user.
Btw - I think Samsung having the power button on the right and volume rocker completely opposite is asinine. I can't tell you how many times I turned off the screen when trying to raise or lower the volume. Or turning off the screen when I'm watching videos in landscape mode. The power button is right where your fore finger should be to hold the phone. #FAIL
So HTC had one layout and now you need to get used to another. I'm not sure what your point is other than that sometimes change takes time to get comfortable with.
I've never once had those issues you listed. When I hold my S4 in landscape to watch a video my index finger sits on the power button. It requires a push to activate that button and I've never done so in said scenario.
One of my few minor quirks when getting the HTC One is the default touchscreen keyboard sucked. Had to get a Jelly Bean-like one from Google Play. Also sometimes on occasion, BlinkFeed doesnt always load a pic and the default browser doesnt always load the website. Copy and paste sorta sucks on it too. Had to use Opera Mini earlier just to post here as the keyboard in the def browser kept blocking the comment box when I tried to copy and paste and hard to scroll up and down after selecting a paragraph. This is my personal observation with 3 month of ownership and not demoing it for 10-20 min.
But if we want to talk about flaws, most "phone of the year" awarded devices had plenty of flaws. The first three gens of iPhones might have been the best phones of their respective years but it lacked even the most basic hardware stuff. iPhone couldnt even record video unjailbroken until 3Gs. iPhone 4 had Antennagate. iPhone 5 had Scruffgate. The best Androids back then still lacked the polish and apps compared to now.
Also to the OP, HTC One is UNIVERSALLY ACCLAIMED by reviewers who actually use multiple phones on a daily basis. Jon Rettinger said it was the best phone since iPhone 4. I dont always agree to the most popular opinion but I agree with him. Does your credibility have more weight from your brief observations or their's? Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone can have one but some stink more than others.
Android has come a long long way. From 2007-2011, comparisons were made between iPhone vs whatever else phone. Most folks and reviewers picked iPhone. There were no iPhone killers. Had the most polished OS with the best apps. Now in 2013, other phones no longer get compared as often to the latest iPhone.
iPhone 5 may no longer even be in to the top 5. I see more comparisons between Androids whether One vs S4 vs Z vs Nexus 4.
One vs S4 - the epic battle for #1
A push on most cases but S4 has a slight advantage like slightly better batt that is removable, microSD slot, and a much better camera. The eye tracking and air gestures can be gimmicky and sometimes dont work everytime. One has much better sound quality, more interesting homescreen, low light performer, a cooler gallery app, and premium quality materials.
Funny when I read Samsung was being accused of hiring people to talk smack on HTC on the net. I see a couple of them here. Then I heard the overclocked GPU to cheat on benchmark scores, the many S4 variants like the S4+ (Snapdragon 800) or how Samsung execs got insecure of S4's build quality if displayed next to an HTC One. Sammy mocks Apple in the S2 ad in 2011 with some Apple fanboy saying it looks the same (iPhone 4s). Samsung does the same thing with S3 to S4.
Maybe Samsung and Apple should team up and maybe they can actually build a much better phone this year than from that poor, little Hi-Tech Company in Taiwan.
But if we want to talk about flaws, most "phone of the year" awarded devices had plenty of flaws. The first three gens of iPhones might have been the best phones of their respective years but it lacked even the most basic hardware stuff. iPhone couldnt even record video unjailbroken until 3Gs. iPhone 4 had Antennagate. iPhone 5 had Scruffgate. The best Androids back then still lacked the polish and apps compared to now.
Also to the OP, HTC One is UNIVERSALLY ACCLAIMED by reviewers who actually use multiple phones on a daily basis. Jon Rettinger said it was the best phone since iPhone 4. I dont always agree to the most popular opinion but I agree with him. Does your credibility have more weight from your brief observations or their's? Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone can have one but some stink more than others.
Android has come a long long way. From 2007-2011, comparisons were made between iPhone vs whatever else phone. Most folks and reviewers picked iPhone. There were no iPhone killers. Had the most polished OS with the best apps. Now in 2013, other phones no longer get compared as often to the latest iPhone.
iPhone 5 may no longer even be in to the top 5. I see more comparisons between Androids whether One vs S4 vs Z vs Nexus 4.
One vs S4 - the epic battle for #1
A push on most cases but S4 has a slight advantage like slightly better batt that is removable, microSD slot, and a much better camera. The eye tracking and air gestures can be gimmicky and sometimes dont work everytime. One has much better sound quality, more interesting homescreen, low light performer, a cooler gallery app, and premium quality materials.
Funny when I read Samsung was being accused of hiring people to talk smack on HTC on the net. I see a couple of them here. Then I heard the overclocked GPU to cheat on benchmark scores, the many S4 variants like the S4+ (Snapdragon 800) or how Samsung execs got insecure of S4's build quality if displayed next to an HTC One. Sammy mocks Apple in the S2 ad in 2011 with some Apple fanboy saying it looks the same (iPhone 4s). Samsung does the same thing with S3 to S4.
Maybe Samsung and Apple should team up and maybe they can actually build a much better phone this year than from that poor, little Hi-Tech Company in Taiwan.
Exactly, either way you adjust and it's not that big of an issue. Just like I'm adjusting to the S4 having the power button on the right side.
Although having both the power and volume rocker completely opposite to each other seems foolish. When pressing one side down, you have your other finger on the other side for support and you can inadvertently get button presses because you're pressing one side into the other. Now for me I have to start holding my phone an entirely different way than what I'm used to which I don't like. Yet still doesn't make it that huge of an issue as I prefer the S4 over the One.
I don't agree that adjusting isn't a big deal. In fact I feel that many times one thing is better than another. Reaching my index right finger to the top left or right of my S4 feels incredibly awkward. And then I have to shift my hand down again to use the screen. Pushing the power button or home button feels a lot more natural and easy plus my hand is in a proper position to use the screen. No shifting necessary. In this scenario one case feels far superior than the other.
I have never come close to inadvertently hitting one button on one side when I'm actually trying to hit the button on the other side on my S4. I don't know why this is an issue for you but the truth is I don't ever come close to having this problem. I don't think having the power and volume buttons on opposite sides is an issue for most people. Just my assumption.
Most likely because you're holding it differently than how I'm accustomed to holding my phones. The entire phone rests in the palm of my hand and I grip it on both sides. My thumb is at the height of the power button while my index finger rests on the other side.. So if I press the volume rocker with my index finger on the left, it's pressing against my thumb on the right which is inadvertently on the power button because it's right opposite the volume rocker. Also I'm quite sure a lot of people hold and operate their phone in this manner.
Btw - I feel much more at ease hitting the power button up top with my index finger from behind. I don't have to re grip or shift my hand either. All this in one fluid single motion. Just my preference as well.
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i agree with you, it has some bad sides, but i think that it's still the best phone of the year, awesome hardware and better than ever software, and the rumored one max will be even better.
I just think its ironic that the One X last year was hailed as the best phone of 2012 and every review gave a nod to the One X over the GS3.
Yet what ended up happening? GS3 sold many many more devices. Has better support. The One X ended up being a POS device with terrible battery life and poor software. HTC has abandoned the device.
Now, same crap, repeated. One is being hailed as the Galaxy/iPhone killer and all the fanboys are up in arms because the Galaxy GS4 is selling significantly better, has better software support, and is an overall superior device.
Is HTC going to have a repeat of 2012? Is the beloved One going to be completely overshadowed by the iPhone/GS4?
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The One is saddled with a poor battery, poor camera, poor software support, poor build quality (antenna gate on the Sprint models and irregular imperfections), poor RF performance, and to top it off, it's still stuck on 4.1.2 in the US.
HTC is so fantastic that they decide to release their flagship 2013 device with software from July 2012, whereas Samsung has ZERO ISSUES bringing their 2013 flagship with the most up-to-date software at that time (4.2.2)
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Funny because all I see in this thread are a bunch of butthurt HTC apologists. They resort to personal attacks instead of debating the topic at hand.
How dare OP criticize the beloved HTC one! He's not allowed to. The HTC One is sacred. It's the best phone on the market. No one can touch HTC!
Yet what ended up happening? GS3 sold many many more devices. Has better support. The One X ended up being a POS device with terrible battery life and poor software. HTC has abandoned the device.
Now, same crap, repeated. One is being hailed as the Galaxy/iPhone killer and all the fanboys are up in arms because the Galaxy GS4 is selling significantly better, has better software support, and is an overall superior device.
Is HTC going to have a repeat of 2012? Is the beloved One going to be completely overshadowed by the iPhone/GS4?
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Yeah, the One X was universally acclaimed last year too. We all know how that ended up. What has HTC done in 2013 to show that they won't repeat being overshadowed by Samsung, yet again?
They already are... Not even up for debate.
The One is saddled with a poor battery, poor camera, poor software support, poor build quality (antenna gate on the Sprint models and irregular imperfections), poor RF performance, and to top it off, it's still stuck on 4.1.2 in the US.
HTC is so fantastic that they decide to release their flagship 2013 device with software from July 2012, whereas Samsung has ZERO ISSUES bringing their 2013 flagship with the most up-to-date software at that time (4.2.2)
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Funny because all I see in this thread are a bunch of butthurt HTC apologists. They resort to personal attacks instead of debating the topic at hand.
How dare OP criticize the beloved HTC one! He's not allowed to. The HTC One is sacred. It's the best phone on the market. No one can touch HTC!
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