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HTC One Is A Mess (My Opinion Only)
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I don't understand this. Can't you just keep your thumb directly above the power button while pressing the volume button? Or maybe use your left hand to adjust the volume while holding the phone in your right hand? My guess is that we both don't hold our phones very differently. For some reason you are having trouble doing something that I do often with zero issues. Honestly I've never read about this complaint either that you are stating. Not saying others don't have it but it doesn't seem like a big issue with many S4 owners.
I cannot touch the top left or right of my S4 with my right index finger without needing to shift my hand again to use the phone properly. Perhaps you have larger hands then me. I have average sized male adult hands. If not, don't know what to tell you. I personally feel very strongly that reaching to the top left and right of such a large phone like the One or S4 is pretty awkward. You'll notice a lot of reviews gripe about the One's power button too for this very reason.
Yeah I do have large hands and I've tried sliding my thumb up and down but it feels very unnatural for me. Force of habit I guess lol
Your large hands probably explain why you don't need to shift your hand after reaching to the top left or right. It's a lot more difficult when your hands are normal sized or smaller.
Why are you using the S4 over the One?
Got a little tired of HTC and was in need of a change. I still use my One X on occasions but the S4 is my go to device. What sold me though was the nearly bezel free display and SD card support. Then come to find out I love most of the S features
Got a little tired of HTC and was in need of a change. I still use my One X on occasions but the S4 is my go to device. What sold me though was the nearly bezel free display and SD card support. Then come to find out I love most of the S features
I don't know how you put up with the X. Sense 4 was incredibly ugly software and multitasking was severely crippled. As flawed as I find the One to be it's an enormous upgrade over the X IMO.
I love to root & rom and all of those issues were fixable. Though I actually like sense 4 and don't find it ugly at all.
I gotta agree with the OP.
Not about the HTC One but about consumer response to products.
Fanboys are WAY too passive about the faults of their products without realizing how much BETTER their products would be if they quit groveling at the feet of their favorite manufacturer and actually voiced their opinion.
"None of those things bother me so therefore they aren't true." - The most ignorant thing a tech fan can say.
For example, the iPhone screen size. Just because YOU are happy with a 4" screen doesn't deny that they would do well to have a bigger option. They have two iPad screen sizes, over 4 MacBook screen sizes, over 2 desktop screen sizes and even screens you can attach to them. Having a 4.5-4.7" iPhone would increase their sales and probably win back margin from Android and how do Iphone fans respond?
"I'm happy with the 4" screen and big phones are for dumb people who eat at McDonald's. What do you wanna carry around a desktop and use that as a phone?"
The same points apply to the One. Brilliant build quality and probably a trophy for engineering and design. But to ignore the volume, power button and lack of a home button is just bad form. If you want your prized smartphone to actually live up to its claims, how about holding the manufacturer accountable so that critics' can be silenced rather than just telling people it doesn't bother you so it must not be an issue?
This is akin to a Gordon Ramsay recipe that has an ingredient that makes 5-10% of people instantly vomit, but instead of the other 90-95% of people agreeing that he should change the ingredients so it becomes edible by 100% of all people, instead they say "WELL IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT IT MAKES PEOPLE THROW UP SO IT MUST NOT BE AN ISSUE."
Seriously guys. The internet and messaging forums- Giving fanboys a way to barricade progressive growth since 2002.
Not about the HTC One but about consumer response to products.
Fanboys are WAY too passive about the faults of their products without realizing how much BETTER their products would be if they quit groveling at the feet of their favorite manufacturer and actually voiced their opinion.
"None of those things bother me so therefore they aren't true." - The most ignorant thing a tech fan can say.
For example, the iPhone screen size. Just because YOU are happy with a 4" screen doesn't deny that they would do well to have a bigger option. They have two iPad screen sizes, over 4 MacBook screen sizes, over 2 desktop screen sizes and even screens you can attach to them. Having a 4.5-4.7" iPhone would increase their sales and probably win back margin from Android and how do Iphone fans respond?
"I'm happy with the 4" screen and big phones are for dumb people who eat at McDonald's. What do you wanna carry around a desktop and use that as a phone?"
The same points apply to the One. Brilliant build quality and probably a trophy for engineering and design. But to ignore the volume, power button and lack of a home button is just bad form. If you want your prized smartphone to actually live up to its claims, how about holding the manufacturer accountable so that critics' can be silenced rather than just telling people it doesn't bother you so it must not be an issue?
This is akin to a Gordon Ramsay recipe that has an ingredient that makes 5-10% of people instantly vomit, but instead of the other 90-95% of people agreeing that he should change the ingredients so it becomes edible by 100% of all people, instead they say "WELL IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT IT MAKES PEOPLE THROW UP SO IT MUST NOT BE AN ISSUE."
Seriously guys. The internet and messaging forums- Giving fanboys a way to barricade progressive growth since 2002.
It's not a coincidence that the members that felt the need to attack me and be hostile are One owners. Look through the thread and count the people who felt the need to insult me and insist that I started this thread to justify my own personal smartphone purchase. Just amazing stuff. David Pogue talked about how passionate people can be about mobile OS on The Charlie Rose show last fall. It applies to forums too.
I'll ask this again because I don't think it got answered before. Does the update regarding the Menu function being incorporated by holding the Back button also apply to the Menu dots being eliminated from the screen itself or are they still there?
Okay, that's good. The three menu dots are wildly annoying. This update has not come yet to American One owners though right?
It's not the back button. It originally was on the demo units at the Ones announcement, but Google made HTC remove it because long press on back brings up history on some browsers. Under 4.2.2 the home button has 3 functions; long-press for menu (no more 3 dots), double-tap for multitasking, and swipe-up for Google Now.
I bit fiddley I now but it works, certainly beats the old menu bar at any rate.
Now I'm not going to attack you because that would be completely pointless on the interwebs, but I am a current HTC One owner.
Everyone goes on about only two capacitive buttons, but coming from an iPhone I don't see this as a problem personally. It is really what you are used to I suppose. I can see where someone that is used to the three on screen or physical home and two capacitive buttons would get annoyed, but in reality like anything you adjust to the change.
Likewise for the power button and the volume buttons, I still find myself going for the top right to find the power button on occasion, but its not enough of an issue for me to dislike the phone. Once again I think coming directly from the iPhone has helped here. The volume buttons are a little interesting being flush yet in saying that I've not had an issue hitting them, even when the phone is in my pocket.
The camera, well, lets just leave that one alone, I think everyone agrees it was a mistake to put it in there especially for a flagship model. I don't really use my phone camera very much, probably because I've never had a good one, but my little Canon S100 is small enough to carry with me everywhere.
I like the idea of the three on screen buttons, but have never used them day to day so don't know if they would be practical. They do make the front of the phone nice and sleek though from a purely aesthetic perspective
In closing I think that every phone can be improved upon, and the HTC One is no exception to the rule.
Just my personal opinion.
Ok blairh some people may have been a little harsh, but you kind of have to look at it a different way. Your original post was saying the HTC One was a mess. People assume when you say it is a mess you mean everything about the phone. The whole thing just does not work. To come to that conclusion one would assume you own the phone. I know when I read the topic today for the first time that was what I thought. Also calling the phone a mess is also a bit harsh.
Look at it this way. If I had gone on the iPhone section and said the iPhone 5 is a mess. The screen it s too small, I don't like where the power button is placed, the camera is not as good as the S4's, and there is no LED light. What do you think would happen? I know what would happen. People would go nuts on me. All those things I said were just my opinions which is fine to express, but you have to be ready for the fall out after you make those comments. Also on top of that you don't own the One. I had some of those complains about the iPhone 5, but then I started using it, and I got use to it. Now I like the phone, and most of those things are not an issue any more. Had you owned the HTC One and still come to these same conclusions then things might have been a bit different. You were still harsh in saying the One was a mess, but posters would have respected that more because you at least gave the phone a try. Sure all the things you complained about have been said before, but a lot of people after using the phone don't mind it so much.
I just want to point out that you may know what you meant by this post, but the way it comes off is way different. Also every time someone tries to defend the phone you argue that either it was bad decision on HTC's part, or the S4 did it better. Arguing with everyone opinion that disagrees with your post makes it look like you think your opinion is the only one that is valid. This is just how I read this thread.
What a bunch of BS. You are absurd. My opinions are valid regardless if I own and use the phone on a daily basis or not. A human being can come to valid conclusions whether they use a gadget on a daily basis or not. It just drives me crazy that you would even write this nonsense in the first place.
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Except I say from the start that there are things I admire about the One, so why in the world would anyone assume such a thing?
I'm actually not arguing with anyone's opinion here. If I say the S4 did something better I explain exactly why I feel this way. It's called a discussion. An exchange of opinions, observations, real world experiences. I never imply that any of my opinions are the only valid ones. If you or anyone else reads it that way I don't know what to say.
The reason why I used the word 'mess' is because that's what I personally view the One as overall. I think HTC made huge mistakes with this phone. Show me another phone with a home button in the lower right. A device this large with the power button at the top. These may seem like small decisions to some but in reality it's these details that can sway a consumer from purchasing a phone or not. Despite all the nonsense that some people want to project onto me because I don't own the One, a consumer comes to conclusions about a smartphone almost always from handling the phone in a retail store. As humans we have the capacity to make intelligent observations about gadgets without needing to use them everyday. I'm not implying that impressions do or don't change after daily use, but again we can still make worthy observations from immediate impressions.
Because the name of the thread is the HTC One is a mess. I don't think it take a huge leap to make those assumptions. How would you like it if I started talking about how much of a mess I think the S4 is? I have never use it before other than to pick it up once in the AT&T store. I posted on here about how I thought the HTC One screen looked better after looking at both, and I got crap because I did not own either. I took that crap because again I did not own the device. You can make all the comments you want about a gadget. Just know not owning the device, but having such a strong opinion of it comes across as fan boyish, and it does not help that you said you own the S4, and how much better you like it. Nothing makes Apple fans more mad than people trashing the iPhone that have never used it. I am just giving you other people's points of views.
Why would anyone make assumptions and not read my OP? It's like you are justifying someone not even reading my OP.
I would not care if someone called the S4 a mess. Everybody is entitled to their opinions. Now if someone said the S4 was terrible and listed reasons which I don't agree with, I would simply say why I disagree. I wouldn't get all fired up about such a thing. I'm capable of discussing gadgets in a civilized manner.
I've actually handled the One on several occasions. More than just once in a store. And like I said before, a person can come to worthy conclusions even if they don't use a phone on a daily basis.
It's your decision to take crap from anybody for not owning a device. I think that's pretty absurd logic. As if one's feelings about a gadget are worthless or invalid because they don't use something daily.
My words don't come across as 'fanboyish'. I've backed up every reason why I don't like the One with valid reasoning. If I came in here and used a tone or wordage that screamed I was a fanboy of anything it would be pretty obvious.
Saying I own the S4 does not make one difference with respect to what I'm saying about the One. My God you are just making horrible assumptions about me left and right. You are making up reasons why everything I said in my OP is invalid, or justifying why others can dismiss me from the very start.
MR members can get as mad as they want. That's just a huge flaw in this forum I guess. Someone can't say anything negative about a device unless they own it. And if someone says anything negative it's completely dismissed because they don't own it and use a competitor. The logic you are trying to spell out is just utter nonsense. Maybe stop and realize how absurd this thinking is from the start instead of wasting time just to explain how asinine some members are acting in this thread.
Rename thread as HTC Is In A Mess. More truth to that. The little minor quirks can be adapted with software. I went from a four capacitive buttons down to two. The adjustments didnt take long.
Look. Following a company is like following a sports franchise. You might NOT always agree to the organization's decision. Many so-called fans like to follow who is the hot one right now. Samsung is "the one." Back in 2007, were some of you even Samsung fans? As many bandwagonners for it now as Miami Heat "fans." Fairweather.
I knew abt HTC since the Tytn days. HTC wasnt branding their own phones before that. They were a contracted OEM. Over the last 7 years, they came out with their own MyTouches, Diamond, Desires, HD2, G2, Sensations, Incredibles, Evos, Amaze, Thunderbolt, Surround, HD7, Windows 8X, Ones, etc.
Some good. Some bad. Alot of terrible battery life. Always admired the materials HTC used even though metal does dent and chip. But some were as sturdy as most Motorolas. The Sony Ericsson X1 and Google Nexus One were two of the nicest designs by them. HTC HD2 might be the most versatile phone ever that can boot multiple Oses.
When I compared HTC One to Sega Dreamcast, it had more to do with their financial woes and their underdog status. Sega was hemorraging money that they ended their hardware business by 2001 by eventually losing to a bigger rival electronics giant like Sony. HTC is losing to one as well but it is Samsung this time.
Sega's Dreamcast is what ended their business. HTC's Dream (aka G1) is what started Android. Shame one of Android's pioneer's future is uncertain. If HTC was the company that held Android's hands and teaching it how to walk in the early days with the first Android and first Nexus, Samsung was the hero to completely commercialize Android with their Galaxies.
HTC, Nokia, Motorola, LG, Sony, and BlackBerry are all the many victims of Samsung's surge to #1 to current dominance and their strong investments on clever marketing using Nike's agent.
HTC is really catered for the CORE phone fans. Like the ones that hate seeing their fav underground band SELL OUT. Ones who dont like going mainstream or get swayed by commercial brainwashing the same way Dreamcast was built for the true gamers. The "quietly brilliant" ones.
Best
1. One
2. Galaxy S4
3. K900
4. Galaxy Note II
5. Optimus G
6. Nexus 4
7. iPhone 5
8. Xperia Z (I prefer ZR)
9. Lumia 920
10. Z10
Look. Following a company is like following a sports franchise. You might NOT always agree to the organization's decision. Many so-called fans like to follow who is the hot one right now. Samsung is "the one." Back in 2007, were some of you even Samsung fans? As many bandwagonners for it now as Miami Heat "fans." Fairweather.
I knew abt HTC since the Tytn days. HTC wasnt branding their own phones before that. They were a contracted OEM. Over the last 7 years, they came out with their own MyTouches, Diamond, Desires, HD2, G2, Sensations, Incredibles, Evos, Amaze, Thunderbolt, Surround, HD7, Windows 8X, Ones, etc.
Some good. Some bad. Alot of terrible battery life. Always admired the materials HTC used even though metal does dent and chip. But some were as sturdy as most Motorolas. The Sony Ericsson X1 and Google Nexus One were two of the nicest designs by them. HTC HD2 might be the most versatile phone ever that can boot multiple Oses.
When I compared HTC One to Sega Dreamcast, it had more to do with their financial woes and their underdog status. Sega was hemorraging money that they ended their hardware business by 2001 by eventually losing to a bigger rival electronics giant like Sony. HTC is losing to one as well but it is Samsung this time.
Sega's Dreamcast is what ended their business. HTC's Dream (aka G1) is what started Android. Shame one of Android's pioneer's future is uncertain. If HTC was the company that held Android's hands and teaching it how to walk in the early days with the first Android and first Nexus, Samsung was the hero to completely commercialize Android with their Galaxies.
HTC, Nokia, Motorola, LG, Sony, and BlackBerry are all the many victims of Samsung's surge to #1 to current dominance and their strong investments on clever marketing using Nike's agent.
HTC is really catered for the CORE phone fans. Like the ones that hate seeing their fav underground band SELL OUT. Ones who dont like going mainstream or get swayed by commercial brainwashing the same way Dreamcast was built for the true gamers. The "quietly brilliant" ones.
Best
1. One
2. Galaxy S4
3. K900
4. Galaxy Note II
5. Optimus G
6. Nexus 4
7. iPhone 5
8. Xperia Z (I prefer ZR)
9. Lumia 920
10. Z10
Here is the problem with the whole thread. You honestly have no idea if this phone is a mess or not. You can say you do because you have played with a demo phone in store. (Oh and those phones have been used and abused by customers) You said you did not like the placement of the power button. Well you may not think you do, but what happens when you start to use the phone daily? You might find you like it. You said you did not like blinkfeed not being able to be taken away. How do you know you would not like it? The answers is you don't know. You are making assumptions that you would not like these things. That is what most people have a problem with. If you had used the phone as a daily driver for a couple of weeks, and then came on here and talked about what you did not like. Maybe then less people would be jumping on you. You can say whatever you want, and talk about how you have right to post you opinion, but I can't see how you did not see this coming. You bash any phone there are going to be people that want to defend it. Then on top of that you say you do not own the phone, but own the biggest competitor of that phone. You are going to get people bashing you for not owning the phone, and for saying it is a mess. Sorry but this is nothing new on here, and you should have seen it coming.
Also I seem to remember that you posted about getting the LG g Pro and not the note 2 because you did not want a Amoled display. Now you have the S4 is that not an Amoled display? Now that you used that Amoled display it is not so bad is it? You may find the same to be true about the One. Never know.
The BIGGEST agenda and justification of a purchase I have ever read on any forum.
Way to go to completely dismiss an HTC One thread with thousands of posts most probably already touching upon what was presented here and having to start a new personal one.
Yep, what a MESS!!!!! And all without owning it and giving it a DECENT chance. That gives about a 1% success rate with one's stance regardless.
Sayonara!
Way to go to completely dismiss an HTC One thread with thousands of posts most probably already touching upon what was presented here and having to start a new personal one.
Yep, what a MESS!!!!! And all without owning it and giving it a DECENT chance. That gives about a 1% success rate with one's stance regardless.
Sayonara!
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I have the Active. It has an LCD panel. I absolutely can make a solid conclusion about the One's power button. If you disagree so be it. HTC should not require you to keep Blinkfeed on a screen unless you use a launcher. The majority of people attacking me and making false claims about my true motivation behind my opinions are One owners. I should be able to express displeasure about any device which I back up with clear reasons without other members acting this way in return. End of story.
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You keep saying the exact same thing to me. Please stop trolling this thread.
The most objective review of the HTC One really came from David Pierce from The Verge. I suggest people to check out that video on YouTube. I love how they pan the camera to view different angles of the phone. But David probably put too much emphasis on the S4's build quality when he reviewed it calling it slimey. But I figure he is an iPhone user where build quality and design is of higher importance. HTC One can appeal to alot of ex-iPhone users like myself.
I find Jon Rettinger (Jon4Lakers) gets a little to excited with his products. He went from iOS/Apple fanboy to a BlackBerry 9900 to Windows Phone (Titan) to a Galaxy Note II to Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean in a span of 8 months. Now he is on HTC One.
I used to love Noah Kravitz when he was with PhoneDog but the guy doesnt seem to know what he really wants anymore. He goes to TechnoBuffalo to then leaves it to pursue teaching and now getting into gadgets again with FutureSmarter? Former Android hater to Android user.
The best reviews come from The Verge or Anandtech. The latter is great at benchmark and battery tests. GSMArena is also very good with comparisons. The One vs Z and One vs S4 comparisons were well written. Only thing I hate abt GSMArena are the comments. Tons of Apple and Sammy haters. Most are actually Sony fanboys keeping the scores up with the Xperia Z and other Sony products but the most viewed/hits daily are Samsung.
Xperia Z was like the first flagship released this year I wanted only to be disappointed by it with lag and bad viewing angles. I still have a couple ads of the Z in 1080p stored in my One. I love the two ad's music and how it was produced. Not a fan of the Z but still a Sony fan at heart even if they suck in alot of area right now. That's loyalty for ya. You got to support your team even when they are down. Never forgave PhoneArena for giving the ZR such a low 6.5 score. Bunch of paid Apple or Samsung-biased reviewers like ones I see at BGR and Gizmodo. Engadget is filled with haters too. And CNET was already terrible years ago. Not the biggest fan of PocketNow, PhoneScoop, or PhoneDog anymore.
A few years ago, HTC was being named Manufacturer of the Year. The year 2010 was a banner year for them. By 2013, HTC is struggling to break even. See how quickly the tides can change. Samsung basically unseated three companies atop their perch - Sony for general electronics. Nokia for mobile marketshare. And Apple for innovation and most profits in the mobile industry. Their market dominance has made "a mess" for everybody else.
I find Jon Rettinger (Jon4Lakers) gets a little to excited with his products. He went from iOS/Apple fanboy to a BlackBerry 9900 to Windows Phone (Titan) to a Galaxy Note II to Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean in a span of 8 months. Now he is on HTC One.
I used to love Noah Kravitz when he was with PhoneDog but the guy doesnt seem to know what he really wants anymore. He goes to TechnoBuffalo to then leaves it to pursue teaching and now getting into gadgets again with FutureSmarter? Former Android hater to Android user.
The best reviews come from The Verge or Anandtech. The latter is great at benchmark and battery tests. GSMArena is also very good with comparisons. The One vs Z and One vs S4 comparisons were well written. Only thing I hate abt GSMArena are the comments. Tons of Apple and Sammy haters. Most are actually Sony fanboys keeping the scores up with the Xperia Z and other Sony products but the most viewed/hits daily are Samsung.
Xperia Z was like the first flagship released this year I wanted only to be disappointed by it with lag and bad viewing angles. I still have a couple ads of the Z in 1080p stored in my One. I love the two ad's music and how it was produced. Not a fan of the Z but still a Sony fan at heart even if they suck in alot of area right now. That's loyalty for ya. You got to support your team even when they are down. Never forgave PhoneArena for giving the ZR such a low 6.5 score. Bunch of paid Apple or Samsung-biased reviewers like ones I see at BGR and Gizmodo. Engadget is filled with haters too. And CNET was already terrible years ago. Not the biggest fan of PocketNow, PhoneScoop, or PhoneDog anymore.
A few years ago, HTC was being named Manufacturer of the Year. The year 2010 was a banner year for them. By 2013, HTC is struggling to break even. See how quickly the tides can change. Samsung basically unseated three companies atop their perch - Sony for general electronics. Nokia for mobile marketshare. And Apple for innovation and most profits in the mobile industry. Their market dominance has made "a mess" for everybody else.
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