I am of course talking about the specific areas where they overlap. But, you don’t have to believe me.
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If you don’t go to courts, there is no ban…
Don’t remember every specific story, but there is at least one HomePod copy that was China only.
If you can’t see that Huawei is copying Apple’s design, I can’t help you. There are plenty of stories covering it.
Bans are the fruit of legislation, not court action.
The HomePod 'copy' was one of many Huawei audio products. Some were China only, some were not.
Same with phones, watches, tablets etc.
Apple has been implementing elements from competing systems for years. Are they copying? We had the notch and people saying Android pinholes/cutouts were worse (much worse). Now Apple has cutouts. Action button? Narrow bezels? Camera technology? Charging technology? OS features? All following in the footsteps of competing devices.
The latest 'thin' iPads are a welcome addition but Huawei raised the bar there with its ultra thin NearLink enabled tablets the year before. Together with its ultra low latency NearLink stylus and 10,000 pressure levels.
Let's not forget that Apple decided to go through 2023 without any tablet updates. Huawei could well release a new tablet at next week's event.
Huawei has fitness devices that look like Apple Watch. It has plenty more that don't - not even in the slightest. Watches with integrated earbuds. Watches with blood pressure cuffs integrated in the straps (D series with the D2 likely to see its release next week). Of course, the new TruSense sensor suite is likely to be included on wearables soon too. Watches with two week battery life. Etc etc.
All carefully designed and crafted in hi-tech materials and with premium finishing on premium devices. Has Apple ever produced anything as beautiful and individual as the Rococco Pearl finish?
Is there any Apple audio TWS out there as comfortable as the Huawei Freebuds Clip? Anything like the Freebuds Lace?
The list is endless but if you blinker yourself to the very few products that look like Apple products and shout 'copy', you are wilfully ignoring reality.
Not a problem. Expensive products are only a problem if they come from Apple.
So it will be interesting to see if this ships with HarmonyOS NEXT out of the box.
That would mean zero Android and as for 'sucking' that is only a personal opinion and a weak one at that.
What is your experience with Huawei design, materials, build quality, software etc?
Howaboutism is usually a good sign that you got caught with your pants down.
I’m not a legal expert, so I can’t say that Huawei is breaking any laws. But again, if you can’t see the difference between “implementing elements”, and straight up ripping off a design, I can’t help you.
I’m sure you will argue that this design similarity was just an unavoidable accident:
I have my sources, which are a lot more trustworthy than “random guy from internet forum”.
An absolutely terrible example and ignoring my point completely. And my pants are just where they need to be.
Should I post a photo of an Android pinhole array next to an iPhone?
My point is that - in spite of any similarities - on a very, very limited range of products, there are far, far more design choices available on Huawei devices than anything Apple product matrix.
That is not 'whataboutism'. It's giving examples of realworld technologies on shipping devices and where Apple has no comparable alternatives, although, just like with the cutout, they may appear somewhere along the way. Or maybe not because Apple dripfeeds features to users. That is how they do business. And when those features finally arrive, they are often limited to the most expensive options (business again). If you are happy with that, fine. But what about Chinese consumers, for example? Has Apple been voluntarily allowing for steep discounting in China or is there some underlying reason?
You don't need to be a legal expert to understand that if a device is banned in a country, it cannot be legally sold there. No Huawei device is banned for general sale in the EU.
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Perhaps tongue in cheek on your part but, although generally expensive, iPhones have never been the most expensive.
The Huawei PD designs were mostly not great to my eyes (I never liked the striped effect) but were ultra, ultra expensive. Some were mainly changes in materials while other really did push the limits of what was doable. The strange thing was that every single PD model sold out of its production run.
There were rumours a little while back of this tri-fold costing up to $4,000 but $4,000 or $2,500, I'd say it's safe to assume it will be eyewateringly expensive for most of us but maybe it will sell enough to be a success.
I don’t understand why Apple’s branding of their AI feature set and foundational model approach would “make things worse.” To me both the insistence that Apple is late to AI and the reaction to the Apple Intelligence branding is rooted in an odd, unmistakable cynicism directed at Apple by some for reasons they believe are justified.
You were saying « for some, apparently AI = generative AI. »
and complaining that « people thinks that Apple are late at AI »
Yet you don’t understand why people would think that they are late at AI/Machine learning tech before while the first time Apple mention the tech was with Apple Intelligence that mainly rest on generative AI and is branded as « AI ».
Stop seeing cynicism everywhere I don’t have any issue with Apple Intelligence and is well aware of the ML tech used by Apple for years.
I think you need to check your facts and consistency. Apple has been mentioning machine learning at every wwdc and iPhone launch since 2017. The reason that many are criticizing Apple for being late to AI is because these same people just recently discovered AI because of OpenAI‘s generative AI and are ignorant that AI has existed and Apple has been at it for way longer than OpenAI and the latest entrants that these people have recently become familiar with. History does not start when you discover something and the fact that some don’t know that ML is AI is because of their ignorance not Apple branding.
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Wow. Literally everything you just said is completely wrong. But it sure fits the narrative you want, I give you that. I mean, it’s not true, but it fits the narrative.
You saying that does not make it true. In reality everything I said is true. Apple proudly announced that OpenAI is behind Apple Intelligence, if you watched the WWDC keynote. I could go on if I really need to, but I don't.
It is quite clear that you are a blind Huawei fan defending them in every way you can - on an Apple fan forum. I’m not spending more time on that - EOD.
I wonder how are they missing the boat on foldables. What about foldables makes them both useful and durable? Is the crease "down the middle" still an issue for foldable phones?
In normal use, a phone like the Fold 6 is basically the size of an iPhone 15. When you want a bigger screen, just unfold it and you have a very nice sized tablet with pen ability.
If you cared, you could do research on how the durability and crease visibility has improved since your outdated opinion was formed. Technology moves fast outside of Cupertino, CA. Some companies are interested in new technology, not just vendor lock-in and protecting app store commissions like Apple.
it's not an issue in my opinion, it takes some getting used to though. i thought it would really bother me since im pretty OCD, but it doesn't at all
Did you actually watch the announcement? Read any of the pages Apple posted about their AI?
Either you don’t know that it’s all their own in-house, on-device AI, and they only hand off to OpenAI in specific circumstances, or you don’t want to know, I guess.
When is that on-device AI shipping? Day and date with the new phone? Thought so.
In a few months? iOS 18.1 is already in beta, and I am already using the Apple Intelligence features in the macOS 15.1 public beta. As someone who has been against generative AI, I’m actually liking what I’ve been seeing so far.
As I’m still very happy with my iPhone 14, it’s a moot point. I won’t get it on my phone, but that’s fine. I think it is more valuable to me on my MacBook. I don’t need any of that on my phone.
i'm fine with that, personally. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. plus they do a really good job with their software, and actually seem to care about taking inspiration from apple's ease of use and minimalist aesthetic, and not just copying their icons and hardware design and leaving android mostly stock, which would be the cheap/lazy way to go about it
the later updates on the P30 pro i had were very smooth and simple to use, it was super polished. it's obvious a lot of attention to detail is going into their software to make for a great user experience, which is not the case for most other android manufacturers. and the camera, oh god the camera was so gooood 🤤