Name any appliance that does more year after year than what it did when released. His Mac does exactly what it was designed to do. It’s not greedy Apple, it’s progress. Don’t like it? Stick with what you bought.
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Name any appliance that does more year after year than what it did when released. His Mac does exactly what it was designed to do. It’s not greedy Apple, it’s progress. Don’t like it? Stick with what you bought.
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@Mikebike125, you are so mad at Apple about limitations on your iMac. Yeah, uhm. I'm typing this message in on an Early 2009 Mac Pro running Sonoma 14.6.1. Because of OCLP. And I could upgrade to Sequoia if I wanted. My Mac Pro, is in fact running a higher version of Sonoma than the 2023 M2 MBP that my job issued me.
I have a 2008 MBP also running Sonoma.
Go ahead and be mad. But finding alternatives is always a good way to feel good about getting around Apple's limitations.
The reason for Apple to not offer the OS updates for older Macs like the OP's is because of a loss of revenue. In this case, a number of personnel have to allocate a certain amount of time to "program" the new patches, and this takes time.
OK, kids, here’s the problem. I still haven’t seen anyone on this thread show any understanding of what it’s like to make sure that that every software change you make works on every piece of hardware that you support.
I think seven years is an insanely generous period of time. I am certain Apple’s test cluster operators and regression engineers breathe a sigh of relief every time an old model falls off of support. Supporting outdated crap with ancient assumptions and documentation can be miserable. When we were finally able to shut down my most recent major supercomputer after seven years of operation, we celebrated. It was time.
You paid them for the hardware and the OS a decade ago. That’s wonderful. You haven’t paid them a dime since for that hardware. All of the software development that goes on there is funded by hardware.
I have a 2012 iMac in similar circumstances. I have a 2016 Mac mini that is still cranking along just fine for my kids. Heck, I sold my Bondi blue iMac G3 for €30 after using it for nearly a decade. Just appreciate that the hardware was good, and outlasted its software engineering lifetime.
I think seven years is an insanely generous period of time. I am certain Apple’s test cluster operators and regression engineers breathe a sigh of relief every time an old model falls off of support. Supporting outdated crap with ancient assumptions and documentation can be miserable. When we were finally able to shut down my most recent major supercomputer after seven years of operation, we celebrated. It was time.
You paid them for the hardware and the OS a decade ago. That’s wonderful. You haven’t paid them a dime since for that hardware. All of the software development that goes on there is funded by hardware.
I have a 2012 iMac in similar circumstances. I have a 2016 Mac mini that is still cranking along just fine for my kids. Heck, I sold my Bondi blue iMac G3 for €30 after using it for nearly a decade. Just appreciate that the hardware was good, and outlasted its software engineering lifetime.
Could it be that it is TurboTax who is choosing not to support your computer and OS, and not Apple sabotaging you?
I don’t need to buy a modern mac for tax purposes. I have high end Linux workstation that can boot windows for taxes or accounting stuff on windows, as needed.
It's frustrating to see all these perfectly functional computers being declared landfill scrap for no real reason than money.
Windows is much, much better than Mac for being able to run legacy software. I can still open my 2002 copy of Photoshop 7 on the latest Windows 10 build, going on 23 years later.
Mac's annual revisions have broken lots of software over the years, sadly.
OCLP should work to give you more time with your machine. Otherwise, you could dual-boot with Windows, 10 but Windows 11 requires similar workarounds as Mac since Microsoft arbitrarily declared older CPUs inelligible. It's not as involved though -- I think it's a pretty minor registry tweak or something.
Windows is much, much better than Mac for being able to run legacy software. I can still open my 2002 copy of Photoshop 7 on the latest Windows 10 build, going on 23 years later.
Mac's annual revisions have broken lots of software over the years, sadly.
OCLP should work to give you more time with your machine. Otherwise, you could dual-boot with Windows, 10 but Windows 11 requires similar workarounds as Mac since Microsoft arbitrarily declared older CPUs inelligible. It's not as involved though -- I think it's a pretty minor registry tweak or something.
Interesting mix of responses here instead of just the usual “well it’s old according to Apple so get on with it”. OP, last I checked there is a way to use open core legacy to install newer version of MacOS on older Macs. I didn’t try it myself as mine was slow and old, but you might have a better luck! (And yes the lack of target display mode due to being 5K sucks, and not in line with sustainability through circular usage)
Also recall that, when the 27" iMac came out, its 5k Retina resolution was a pretty big deal—Apple boasted about having to develop custom timing controllers to achieve it—and outstripped the resolution supported by the DisplayPort protocol available at the time. Target Display Mode would have required two cables, which besides being quite un-Apple-like, would have undermined the promise of Thunderbolt 3 being advertised on that machine and the contemporary 2013 "trash can" Mac Pro.
Appreciate the many years you had with your fully supported iMac, accept that its inability to effortlessly turn into a monitor is not due to any malfeasance on Apple's part, and embrace its next adventure on OpenCore Legacy, another OS, or in your closet. 😉
Sent from my late 2014 27" iMac with the help of OCLP
Appreciate the many years you had with your fully supported iMac, accept that its inability to effortlessly turn into a monitor is not due to any malfeasance on Apple's part, and embrace its next adventure on OpenCore Legacy, another OS, or in your closet. 😉
Sent from my late 2014 27" iMac with the help of OCLP
Make a second volume
Instal windows or Linux
Run turbo tax
Problem solved
You’re welcome
OR
use oclp
Upgrade macos
Run turbo tax
You’re just as welcome
Hot take: be angry at the IRS not Apple.
Here in the UK we have a nice gov.uk web site you just plug all the crap into and it works it out for you. And it handles all the weird complexities around tax quite happily. Don't have to install anything or use any third party software.
Here in the UK we have a nice gov.uk web site you just plug all the crap into and it works it out for you. And it handles all the weird complexities around tax quite happily. Don't have to install anything or use any third party software.
I do indeed run my own business, and I file my own taxes online (lots of clients, lots of expenses, lots to report, etc.). It's more time consuming than a person with no deductions and one employer, but it works just fine.
Why don't you shout at TurboTax for locking out older OS versions from running it??