I bought a SurfaceBook

[SteveJUAE]

I went to the Microsoft store today, thinking I'd buy a Surface Book. But after sitting down for a while and trying writing on five of them, I found the experience disappointing compared to the pencil on the iPad pro. The tip felt weak, and it didn't feel as firm a surface as the iPad. It was natural writing on it, and my handwriting wasn't as good. Since the main purpose I have for getting a pen-enabled device is to use it as a whiteboard, I've decided to put up with the awkwardness in manipulating files between a macbook pro and iPad pro. Thanks for everyone's advice here.

Rick that's a shame it did not suit your writing style I'm surprised though and as you use the white board for teaching I would of thought the ability to wireless screen mirror to any screen or projector would of been a big bonus for you.

As Queen 6 noted there is a pen tip pack for various hardness/feel although my middle son stole my one and my dock so I never got around to testing them out.

 

[MRU]

I went to the Microsoft store today, thinking I'd buy a Surface Book. But after sitting down for a while and trying writing on five of them, I found the experience disappointing compared to the pencil on the iPad pro. The tip felt weak, and it didn't feel as firm a surface as the iPad. It was natural writing on it, and my handwriting wasn't as good. Since the main purpose I have for getting a pen-enabled device is to use it as a whiteboard, I've decided to put up with the awkwardness in manipulating files between a macbook pro and iPad pro. Thanks for everyone's advice here.

After watching Lisa from MobileTech's hands on with the Surface Studio I too was underwhelmed by the pen performance. They really should have updated the n-trig technology to fully support tilt as it makes a massive difference in usability and accuracy for digital artists which these devices clearly try and target (the advert for the surface book is basically 'the book of life' creators saying how great it is to draw on) and yet it's lacking pivotal features.

I was seriously contemplating the €3k for the studio (my cintiq 24 HD is getting old and screen dull after years of service) even in spite of reservations over windows, but the n-trig tech basically means it's a no go

N-trig current tech is probably grand if you've never experienced 'better' ....

 

[Queen6]

After watching Lisa from MobileTech's hands on with the Surface Studio I too was underwhelmed by the pen performance. They really should have updated the n-trig technology to fully support tilt as it makes a massive difference in usability and accuracy for digital artists which these devices clearly try and target (the advert for the surface book is basically 'the book of life' creators saying how great it is to draw on) and yet it's lacking pivotal features.

I was seriously contemplating the €3k for the studio (my cintiq 24 HD is getting old and screen dull after years of service) even in spite of reservations over windows, but the n-trig tech basically means it's a no go

N-trig current tech is probably grand if you've never experienced 'better' ....

Same thoughts here, although I am not a graphic artist or designer, I do very much take stock of Lisa`s reviews as she has yet to be way off the mark for me. Most I know who are and or would be in the market for a Surface Studio, have similar cautions, waiting on the more unbiased reviews, hands on and more likely to see what the Gen 2 product is like. For myself it`s a non issue as I personally have no need for the Studio, although my daughter may, depending on how Microsoft develop the hardware.

What I like most about Lisa`s reviews is that she call`s it as she see`s it...

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[apolloa]

I think you need to wait for Lisa's full review as all they had was a hands on. I've seen other videos where the pen flies. I'm no artist but it seems it entirely depends on your style and type of art as to how well you can use the pen.

 

[SteveJUAE]

After watching Lisa from MobileTech's hands on with the Surface Studio I too was underwhelmed by the pen performance. They really should have updated the n-trig technology to fully support tilt as it makes a massive difference in usability and accuracy for digital artists which these devices clearly try and target (the advert for the surface book is basically 'the book of life' creators saying how great it is to draw on) and yet it's lacking pivotal features.

I was seriously contemplating the €3k for the studio (my cintiq 24 HD is getting old and screen dull after years of service) even in spite of reservations over windows, but the n-trig tech basically means it's a no go

N-trig current tech is probably grand if you've never experienced 'better' ....

I understand your concerns but I think the surface dial will likely plug that gap and shading too. I think this will be a much bigger advantage once they get going as software add-ons to the dial can easily be implemented unlike with a pen or pencil standalone limitations, but we may have to wait a few months before we see some more advance interface/interaction between pen and dial.

 

[mrex]

what is the game she was playing with surface studio?

i wish i had more space on my desk, i could get SS immediately

 

[Queen6]

I understand your concerns but I think the surface dial will likely plug that gap and shading too. I think this will be a much bigger advantage once they get going as software add-ons to the dial can easily be implemented unlike with a pen or pencil standalone limitations, but we may have to wait a few months before we see some more advance interface/interaction between pen and dial.

Am also keenly interested in the Surface Dial, not for artistic reasons, more for engineering usage and heavy documentation. I have looked at several such "dials" over the years however in general they have been heavily focused with a single application/usage, and or nor particularly well implemented. The Surface Dial also provides dynamic feedback; Providing tactile feedback in software adjustable increments, most importantly it`s integrated into the OS, and programable. On the software side 2017`s Creators Update is going to bring a lot more dynamism to Surface, especially for those with a creative skills.

The pen is another matter, however I have read that Microsoft is working on a new pen with rechargeable battery, would be logical that Microsoft now incorporates the "tilt" feature. The beauty of it is that all of us who own and or use Surface products is that we can benefit, by just upgrading the peripheral. My understanding is that the Surface Dial is compatible back to Surface Pro 3. A new Pen on the release of Surface Book 2 in 2017 would not surprise, nor the inclusion of a Nvidia 10 series dGPU for the Power Base. Personally I will be watching keenly, as the the only issue I have with my own i7 Surface Book is not buying one sooner

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[SteveJUAE]

Am also keenly interested in the Surface Dial, not for artistic reasons, more for engineering usage and heavy documentation. I have looked at several such "dials" over the years however in general they have been heavily focused with a single application/usage, and or nor particularly well implemented. The Surface Dial also provides dynamic feedback; Providing tactile feedback in software adjustable increments, most importantly it`s integrated into the OS, and programable. On the software side 2017`s Creators Update is going to bring a lot more dynamism to Surface, especially for those with a creative skills.

The pen is another matter, however I have read that Microsoft is working on a new pen with rechargeable battery, would be logical that Microsoft now incorporates the "tilt" feature. The beauty of it is that all of us who own and or use Surface products is that we can benefit, by just upgrading the peripheral. My understanding is that the Surface Dial is compatible back to Surface Pro 3. A new Pen on the release of Surface Book 2 in 2017 would not surprise, nor the inclusion of a Nvidia 10 series dGPU for the Power Base. Personally I will be watching keenly, as the the only issue I have with my own i7 Surface Book is not buying one sooner

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Ditto on the above especially for engineering where Adobe PDF annotation and mark-ups are used for commenting on vendor or revision release of documents and drawings.

I noticed in the MBP Touchbar thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/touch-bar-discussion-merged.2010222/page-7#post-23889282 you had linked this video:

It seems to me MS could easily implement something similar as part of the taskbar which would be on the touch screen, where it belongs IMO and not a ridiculous extra that cannot be ignored/switched off.

I think this is why MS devices seem interesting with new integrated OS peripherals a whole new avenue of development is open outside of the same old clamshell designs which has been too focused on the shell/footprint.

We have been so starved over the last few years that we were happy to chat endlessly over hinge or trackpad designs LOL and all the gains of wireless and cloud connectivity has been undone by having to cart around a new nest of cables and dongles etc

 

[Queen6]

MobileTechReview`s latest review of the i7 Surface Book with Performance Base, Lisa is impartial & unbiased as ever. Making the Surface Book ever more compelling, equally expensive. Personally I will wait on Surface Book 2 with Performance Base, which will hopefully offer Nvidia 10 series dGPU, with a host of advancments & improvements to the Surface Book.

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[SteveJUAE]

MobileTechReview`s latest review of the i7 Surface Book with Performance Base, Lisa is impartial & unbiased as ever. Making the Surface Book ever more compelling, equally expensive. Personally I will wait on Surface Book 2 with Performance Base, which will hopefully offer Nvidia 10 series dGPU, with a host of advancments & improvements to the Surface Book.

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I like Lisa MT reviews she always seems to give a genuine review

Seems like you will need a 15" MBP to possibly edge in front of the new SB with some specific software, without all the versatility that comes with the SB and RGB coverage is a nice to have but considering the lessor coverage was fine last month it's not a game changer by any means IMO and I suspect final proofing for those that mater are done on desktops etc

 

[Queen6]

I like Lisa MT reviews she always seems to give a genuine review

Seems like you will need a 15" MBP to possibly edge in front of the new SB with some specific software, without all the versatility that comes with the SB and RGB coverage is a nice to have but considering the lessor coverage was fine last month it's not a game changer by any means IMO and I suspect final proofing for those that mater are done on desktops etc

After just having some hands on with the new 2016 MBP, it very much served to reaffirm that the Surface Book is the right choice for my needs, with versatility & usability winning over being thinner for the sake of it.

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[SteveJUAE]

After just having some hands on with the new 2016 MBP, it very much served to reaffirm that the Surface Book is the right choice for my needs, with versatility & usability winning over being thinner for the sake of it.

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Just a thought on the surface dial if it will act like the old articulated draughting board slide ie will allow straight lines only to be drawn say in increments of 15 degrees by rotating the dial you would have a very nice ISO sketching tool IMO

 

[Queen6]

Just a thought on the surface dial if it will act like the old articulated draughting board slide ie will allow straight lines only to be drawn say in increments of 15 degrees by rotating the dial you would have a very nice ISO sketching tool IMO

Would just take software, much I guess will depend on the uptake of the Studio.

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[businezguy]

I've been a Mac user since Mac OS X first came out. It offered such a clear advantage over the Windows environment, it was worth the premium. Today Apple seems to be resting on their laurels, and I can't justify the premium.

I own the Surface Pro 3 and for the first few months of owning it, I hated it. I had the sleep/wake issues, and found Windows 10 to have many bugs. Windows 8.1 was actually flawless and bullet proof, but it wasn't as versatile as Mac OS X or Windows 10 for multitasking.

Now that Microsoft has squashed most of the bugs in Windows 10, I absolutely love my Surface Pro 3! I have to memorize a lot of information, and deal with a ton of pictures of diagrams. I can simply import them in bulk into One Note, organize and label them, and then use the touch screen to pinch and zoom in and out and manipulate the images all while having Microsoft Word open in dual screen mode so I can type some information in it. That's just one example of how I utilize the touch screen.

It's a shame Apple can't offer some form of 2 in 1 device. The old Apple I knew would have been up to the challenge and likely come up with a superior implementation to what Microsoft is offering. I don't think Apple has the creativity or talent to pull it off today, so they have to have their marketing guy do interviews to justify their lack of innovation.

My plans are to sell my fully specced out 2013 iMac. I might also sell my low end 2015 MacBook Pro. In either case, once I sell my iMac, I'll purchase a 28 inch 4K monitor and use it with my Surface Pro 3 (and possibly my MacBook Pro if I decide to keep it). I'm also seriously considering either the Surface Pro 4, the Surface Book, or waiting until the Spring when Microsoft will likely have new releases of both.

It's not that Apple doesn't offer good products. I tend to be a heavy user of my computer in terms of the amount of TIME I spend on it, but a light user in terms of applications i.e. Microsoft Word, Excel, One Note. With this type of usage, my MacBook Pro can easily last me 16 to 18 hours before needing a recharge. Obviously the screen is beautiful, and the trackpad has no peers.

But I frequently have a need to utilize multitouch directly on the screen, and also use the pen a helluva lot on my Surface Pro 3. While there are practical reasons for both a well designed digitizer and a touch screen, Apple is just ignoring them. I hope Microsoft can focus on improving the Windows 10 UI and reliability, as they still have a ways to go. With that said, I like what I see in Windows 10 so far.

As far as Apple is concerned, if I ever have trouble going to sleep, maybe they'll let me into the Apple Store in the middle of the night. That should do the trick.

 

[soulreaver99]

Hey everyone - just some quick first impressions on the Surface Book i7 Performance Base I picked up. I was lucky enough to be able to trade in the previous i7 I bought a little over a month ago at Best Buy.

• It is slightly thicker than the previous model. Maybe it's just me but the slightly raised keyboard feels better when typing
• Speaking of keyboard, it is the best keyboard next to pre 2016 MPB. Really quiet and excellent travel
• Runs quiet overall on every single task except gaming. Fans come on but it's never annoying
• Power brick is bigger, but I was still able to use the smaller 3rd party chargers just fine
• Lack of USB C / Thunderbolt Ports... a little annoying but has no effect on my workflow. Having the built in SD card is nice and not having to carrying a dongle (like I do with my rMB) for all my non TB/ USB-C devices is even better
• Speakers sound decent, but no match for the rMB and the newer MBPs
• Thanks to the GeForce 965m card, it plays Overwatch and Infinite Warfare just fine on medium settings (those are the only two heavy games I have tried so far) - try doing that with any other hybrid or laptop it's class!
• Microsoft advertise 16 hours battery life. Whatever. My daily workflow consists of Chrome, Microsoft Office (mainly Outlook / Excel / Word) signing PDFs, etc... and I get about 9-11 hours max, which is better than the previous SB I had at 7-9 hours. YMMV.
• As with the previous Surface Book, being able to detach the screen and hand off to employees, colleagues and VP has been great. Also flipping the screen around and showing a small audience in presentations is great too.
• Trackpad is as good as the previous SB so that's a good thing. Still the second best compared the Apple's Force Touch trackpad though
• Hard drive is not as fast as the new Macbook Pros. Crystal Mark benches 1525 / 595. Apple's hard drive speeds are crazy fast, but in real world usage, not that big a deal. Unless you are moving around large files as part of your workflow... like 4K videos
• Not being limited to a touch bar makes interacting with work much more engaging

 

[Queen6]

I've been a Mac user since Mac OS X first came out. It offered such a clear advantage over the Windows environment, it was worth the premium. Today Apple seems to be resting on their laurels, and I can't justify the premium.

I own the Surface Pro 3 and for the first few months of owning it, I hated it. I had the sleep/wake issues, and found Windows 10 to have many bugs. Windows 8.1 was actually flawless and bullet proof, but it wasn't as versatile as Mac OS X or Windows 10 for multitasking.

Now that Microsoft has squashed most of the bugs in Windows 10, I absolutely love my Surface Pro 3! I have to memorize a lot of information, and deal with a ton of pictures of diagrams. I can simply import them in bulk into One Note, organize and label them, and then use the touch screen to pinch and zoom in and out and manipulate the images all while having Microsoft Word open in dual screen mode so I can type some information in it. That's just one example of how I utilize the touch screen.

It's a shame Apple can't offer some form of 2 in 1 device. The old Apple I knew would have been up to the challenge and likely come up with a superior implementation to what Microsoft is offering. I don't think Apple has the creativity or talent to pull it off today, so they have to have their marketing guy do interviews to justify their lack of innovation.

My plans are to sell my fully specced out 2013 iMac. I might also sell my low end 2015 MacBook Pro. In either case, once I sell my iMac, I'll purchase a 28 inch 4K monitor and use it with my Surface Pro 3 (and possibly my MacBook Pro if I decide to keep it). I'm also seriously considering either the Surface Pro 4, the Surface Book, or waiting until the Spring when Microsoft will likely have new releases of both.

It's not that Apple doesn't offer good products. I tend to be a heavy user of my computer in terms of the amount of TIME I spend on it, but a light user in terms of applications i.e. Microsoft Word, Excel, One Note. With this type of usage, my MacBook Pro can easily last me 16 to 18 hours before needing a recharge. Obviously the screen is beautiful, and the trackpad has no peers.

But I frequently have a need to utilize multitouch directly on the screen, and also use the pen a helluva lot on my Surface Pro 3. While there are practical reasons for both a well designed digitizer and a touch screen, Apple is just ignoring them. I hope Microsoft can focus on improving the Windows 10 UI and reliability, as they still have a ways to go. With that said, I like what I see in Windows 10 so far.

As far as Apple is concerned, if I ever have trouble going to sleep, maybe they'll let me into the Apple Store in the middle of the night. That should do the trick.

For me the Surface Book has remained to be very stable, with the most significant issue to date being a the keyboard map defaulting to UK English, over Intl English. I resolved by depreciating the UK Keyboard, likely this was due to my preference for UK English, over US; Cortana, spelling etc. I have seen others document similar KB input behaviour.

I still remain to use and work in OS X with Apple`s hardware, equally Apple`s stance is clear and my own usage/workflow can and does directly benefit from a unified Touch & Pen notebook. Likely my remaining Mac`s will just go with time, unless something changes on the software and or hardware side with Apple.

I agree the that Apple remains to produce decent products, however Apple is locked in it`s own paradigm, which in some respects is becoming an exercise in diminishing returns.

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[Queen6]

Hey everyone - just some quick first impressions on the Surface Book i7 Performance Base I picked up. I was lucky enough to be able to trade in the previous i7 I bought a little over a month ago at Best Buy.

• It is slightly thicker than the previous model. Maybe it's just me but the slightly raised keyboard feels better when typing
• Speaking of keyboard, it is the best keyboard next to pre 2016 MPB. Really quiet and excellent travel
• Runs quiet overall on every single task except gaming. Fans come on but it's never annoying
• Power brick is bigger, but I was still able to use the smaller 3rd party chargers just fine
• Lack of USB C / Thunderbolt Ports... a little annoying but has no effect on my workflow. Having the built in SD card is nice and not having to carrying a dongle (like I do with my rMB) for all my non TB/ USB-C devices is even better
• Speakers sound decent, but no match for the rMB and the newer MBPs
• Thanks to the GeForce 965m card, it plays Overwatch and Infinite Warfare just fine on medium settings (those are the only two heavy games I have tried so far) - try doing that with any other hybrid or laptop it's class!
• Microsoft advertise 16 hours battery life. Whatever. My daily workflow consists of Chrome, Microsoft Office (mainly Outlook / Excel / Word) signing PDFs, etc... and I get about 9-11 hours max, which is better than the previous SB I had at 7-9 hours. YMMV.
• As with the previous Surface Book, being able to detach the screen and hand off to employees, colleagues and VP has been great. Also flipping the screen around and showing a small audience in presentations is great too.
• Trackpad is as good as the previous SB so that's a good thing. Still the second best compared the Apple's Force Touch trackpad though
• Hard drive is not as fast as the new Macbook Pros. Crystal Mark benches 1525 / 595. Apple's hard drive speeds are crazy fast, but in real world usage, not that big a deal. Unless you are moving around large files as part of your workflow... like 4K videos
• Not being limited to a touch bar makes interacting with work much more engaging

Thx for updating with your experience of the i7 with Performance Base, some interesting observations. I considered waiting for the release locally, equally with SB2 on the horizon, with highly likely more improvements I decided to opt for the standard model.

I am also conscious of portability, although admittedly the performance base takes little away. I will be following the release of SB2 keenly as it will be very interesting to see how Microsoft develops the Surface Book and I plan to opt for the Performance Base with SB2. The SB is fast becoming my dominant portable, looking forward to the next project to really put the SB through it`s paces.

Nice unbiased round up

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[maflynn]

Hey everyone - just some quick first impressions on the Surface Book i7 Performance Base I picked up. I was lucky enough to be able to trade in the previous i7 I bought a little over a month ago at Best Buy.

I bought the base value and I at times have a twinge of regret, especially over the newly updated model, but my needs are such that I'm not requiring machine with lots of horsepower (or storage).

The SB is still been a solid laptop for me, and I like the touch screen over the to touch bar. I was impressed with the touch bar, but other then the gee whiz factor, I don't see it as useful as a touch screen, or even keyboard shortcuts (which I rely heavily on).

I will be following the release of SB2 keenly

Same here, I was impressed with how much I got in selling my Surface Pro 3 Like Apple these things do hold their value fairly well and so I can see myself selling the SB next year and getting the SB2 - provided there's clear improvements. As for now, I'm very happy with what I have.

 

[Queen6]

I bought the base value and I at times have a twinge of regret, especially over the newly updated model, but my needs are such that I'm not requiring machine with lots of horsepower (or storage).

The SB is still been a solid laptop for me, and I like the touch screen over the to touch bar. I was impressed with the touch bar, but other then the gee whiz factor, I don't see it as useful as a touch screen, or even keyboard shortcuts (which I rely heavily on).


Same here, I was impressed with how much I got in selling my Surface Pro 3 Like Apple these things do hold their value fairly well and so I can see myself selling the SB next year and getting the SB2 - provided there's clear improvements. As for now, I'm very happy with what I have.

I always run two systems in tandem; primary & secondary with a replacement cycle of 24 months on each system. In general this equates to one new notebook per calendar year, solely for business purpose. 2017 I plan to break the cycle by opting for SB-2 as my current Surface Book has impressed me more than any other notebook has done since the launch of the Retina MacBook Pro in 2012. Looking at Microsoft's progression with the Surface Pro, I can only foresee that the SB-2 will be another significant advancement.

This was also an integral aspect of my own purchasing decision, as my current Surface Book as good as it is, was bought with the intention of being my secondary system for 2017, with SB-2 i7, 16Gb 512 SSD & Performance Base advancing to primary. I had sat on the fence with Surface Book for best part of a year as some members are aware. My decision had been to opt for one on the release of SB-2, however with the release of the 2016 MBP failing to impress, ever more positive words on the current Surface Book, a decent discount, it was a very easy decision to replace my 2014 13" rMBP with the Surface Book.

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[maflynn]

I always run two systems in tandem; primary & secondary with a replacement cycle of 24 months on each system.

I wouldn't say I run in tandem, but I do have two laptops and a desktop. The desktop is my main machine and I need a laptop for my mobility needs. The Surface Book replaced my MacBook Pro as my main mobile machine. The battery is failing on my 2012 rMBP and I need to take a closer look at the display panel because I think its finally succumbing to staingate. I noticed some areas (tiny really) where the anti-reflecive coating may be coming off. I need to see when that repair program comes to an end and schedule some time with a Genius. I'm not sure I want to put any money onto that laptop being that its going on 6 years. So this spring I may opt for a second laptop, partly for my kids needs, but also for mine. Whether that's a new SB or a MBP remains to be seen.
[doublepost=1479477470][/doublepost]I'm rather bummed out to see the coating to come off and that colors my opinion on going with apple. I was hoping that I dodged that bullet. I'll not jump to conclusions yet, but so far, I'm not really happy.

 

[Queen6]

I wouldn't say I run in tandem, but I do have two laptops and a desktop. The desktop is my main machine and I need a laptop for my mobility needs. The Surface Book replaced my MacBook Pro as my main machine. The battery is failing on my 2012 rMBP and I need to take a closer look at the display panel because I think its finally succumbing to staingate. I noticed some areas (tiny really) where the anti-reflecive coating may be coming off. I need to see when that repair program comes to an end and schedule some time with a Genius. I'm not sure I want to put any money onto that laptop being that its going on 6 years. So this spring I may opt for a second laptop, partly for my kids needs, but also for mine. Whether that's a new SB or a MBP remains to be seen.
[doublepost=1479477470][/doublepost]I'm rather bummed out to see the coating to come off and that colors my opinion on going with apple. I was hoping that I dodged that bullet. I'll not jump to conclusions yet, but so far, I'm not really happy.

Similar quality concerns were also a part of my decision;

• 2015 rMB KB is marking the display, USB C port is loose which can & does result in disconnects when using the muti-port adaptor, display has a cluster of aberrant pixels that can grey out, keyboard looks worse (wear & tear) than any other Mac`s I have, some being over 8 years old, battery capacity has depreciated faster than any other Mac I have ever owned.
• 2014 13" rMBP again has loose ports and can be unstable.
• 2012 15" rMBP has developed image retention, and now requires a new battery which is fair enough.
• 2011 15" cMBP now requires a new battery which is more than fair enough.

My overall observations from my own Mac`s is that Apple`s product quality is diminishing over time, with the focus being very much more on the aesthetic. Surface Book is not by any means a pretty notebook, it is however what I class as true industrial design, being engineered to serve purpose first and foremost. Who would have thought, making the base a little thicker, doubling dGPU performance; very dangerous precedent listening to your customers, might just result in more sales

As for Apple; falling off the radar...

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[Queen6]

Out of curiosity I just did a very basic comparison of my 2014 13" MBP and i7 Surface Book using Handbrake as both systems benchmark closely. Using the same file, same preset in Handbrake, Surface Book completed the encode 1 hour 40 minutes faster. I thought the Surface Book might have a very slight edge over the MBP`s 28W CPU, in reality Surface Book decimated the Mac, nor was DXVA GPU acceleration on.

Not entirely a fair comparison as the Mac is now two years old, interesting all the same as benchmarks suggest the two notebooks are computationally pretty close...

Realistically you would need to run many such comparisons as each video file has it`s unique properties to really have a representative picture of performance.

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[dilutedq]

Like my 2013 rMBP that had to be sent to Apple 3 times????

the difference is you are one person,
universally everyone has had issues with their surface books.

 

[raqball]

the difference is you are one person,
universally everyone has had issues with their surface books.

If you say so....

 

[Queen6]

the difference is you are one person,
universally everyone has had issues with their surface books.

No, mine has been 100% stable, nor do believe my Surface Book is unique or special in any manner; the early ones had issues with software that MicroSoft fixed. As to whether the hard hardware tweaked is unknown. Same with Apple when they release a new MBP their is frequently issue the first 6-12 months.

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