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bogdanw

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Just one question – when you boot into recovery, should you have SIP disabled in order to manipulate system files or you have access with SIP enabled?
No need to disable SIP. Renaming system files from recovery works with SIP enabled. Just be careful :)
 

emikaadeo

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Aug 27, 2019
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Agree.
I think I found a solution to stop the nagging:
- sing out from the Apple ID preference pane
- reboot into recovery
- open terminal and run
Code:
mv /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.bak

I think that's the service responsible. I've tested it on Catalina 10.15 19A602 and the is no more iCloud message, logging into the App Store and Music works, the Apple ID preference pane works.

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If for any reason you wish to revert, just run in the same way
Code:
mv /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.bak /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist
Thanks for the solution.
My system volume has a name 'macOS'
This is what I did:
- sing out from the Apple ID preference pane
- reboot into recovery
- open terminal and run:
Code:
mv /Volumes/macOS/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist /Volumes/macOS/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist.bak
'Start using iCloud' message has gone but i still have a red "1" on System Preferences icon.
Do you have this too?
 

bogdanw

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'Start using iCloud' message has gone but i still have a red "1" on System Preferences icon.Do you have this too?
To get rid of that, use
Code:
defaults delete com.apple.systempreferences AttentionPrefBundleIDs; killall Dock
 

Sarassine

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I broke down and submitted my complaint to the Apple feedback site. Most likely hopeless, but I figured it wouldn't hurt. If you guys want to do the same, we might get some attention. Meanwhile, thanks to Bogdanw for his ingenious solution!
 

Sarassine

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It should survive regular updates, but you might have to run it again if you install a combo update.
I've asked for com.apple.followupd to be included in Disable bunch of #$!@ in Catalina https://gist.github.com/pwnsdx/1217727ca57de2dd2a372afdd7a0fc21
Take a look if you are interested in disabling more of Apple's bloatware.
Just out of curiosity - this is unrelated to the thread, but I couldn't help noticing that your avatar on Github is a penguin... are you a Linux guy at heart?
 

Sarassine

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Who the hell decided to suspend bogdanw's account? He was the most helpful participant on this thread and many others. :mad:
 
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Sarassine

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No need to disable SIP. Renaming system files from recovery works with SIP enabled. Just be careful :)
Hi, glad you are back. The strangest thing happened to me. I followed your instructions, it worked perfectly for around 24 hours and then I went back to System Preferences and I am signed in iCloud?!??
MacOS must have done it somehow. I did a complete reinstall of the OS, signed into the App store, got the red badge and the nagging, signed out, applied your fix in Terminal in recovery, restarted, went to System Preferences - everything looked fine. No nagging, no red badge. This morning I checked again - I am signed into iCloud!!
Very strange and disturbing to say the least.
 
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bogdanw

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I am signed into iCloud!! Very strange and disturbing to say the least.
That is strange. Mine remained signed off and worked for new local account as well. But I used the Disable bunch script too, which disables other iCloud related services.
 
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MilaM

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Mojave is nagging me to in System Preferences to upgrade to Catalina, which I don't want to do at this time.

My solution was to just kick out the System Preferences icon from the dock.
 

killhippie

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The bug also persists I doubted it would be fixed in this version, no issues with the iphone using it this way so maybe in 10.15.2. Well I can dream...
 
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HankTC

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Jan 23, 2020
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So if you clean install Catalina you don't have the impossible to dismiss notification? So far I have only done upgrades over Mojave.
I have been working with Apple on this problem since the first of the year. System preferences shows a notification in the dock. Opening SP and Apple ID has a notification. Clicking on it tries to bring up the App Store, but you get an error message that it won't connect. I decided to turn iCloud off but that didn't do it.
There was a message that an upgrade was available. Even though I didn't need any more iCloud storage, I chose the 50 gig option for $0.99 per month. I then restarted, and would you believe the notifications were all gone and everything is now running smoothly? You might say this is a new way for Apple to sell something. I've been through at least 5 tech reps and 2 or 3 Senior Tech Reps. None of them could tell me how to get rid of the notifications and stop Catalina from freezing. I hope this helps someone else.
 

bogdanw

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I chose the 50 gig option for $0.99 per month. I then restarted, and would you believe the notifications were all gone and everything is now running smoothly?
We do NOT want to use iCloud and your suggestion is we should pay Apple for more. Nice trolling.
 

HankTC

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We do NOT want to use iCloud and your suggestion is we should pay Apple for more. Nice trolling.
Yes, it is a way to get more money off of millions. Maybe that's why none of the Techs at any level couldn't solve the problem and keep my Catalina from freezing when I tried to follow the notifications and didn't buy. I tried to turn off iCloud by deleting all the listed apps, but that didn't work. After I agreed to buy more "with the first month free" I could get to Apple>SystemPreferences>Apple ID>Overview, which has a "Sign Off" button at the bottom. Apple Forum says you can turn iCloud OFF or ON by clicking this button. If you are plagued with System Preferences and Apple ID stalling problems as I was, try subscribing to the 99-cent/per month option, which is first-month free, click on Sign off. In a day or two go and delete the 99-cent option if they will allow you. Let me know if you can stop the notifications and stop iCloud.
 

bogdanw

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Here is how to get rid of the message properly
1. Sign out from System Preferences - Apple ID
If the notification is still visible, run from Terminal
Code:
defaults delete com.apple.systempreferences AttentionPrefBundleIDs;killall Dock
2. Disable SIP (Boot to macOS Recovery, from Terminal run csrutil disable)
3. Boot into Catalina and from Terminal run
Code:
launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist
sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist
4. Open AppStore and log in.
 
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emikaadeo

macrumors member
Aug 27, 2019
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Here is how to get rid of the message properly
1. Sign out from System Preferences - Apple ID
If the notification is still visible, run from Terminal
Code:
defaults delete com.apple.systempreferences AttentionPrefBundleIDs;killall Dock
2. Disable SIP (Boot to macOS Recovery, from Terminal run csrutil disable)
3. Boot into Catalina and from Terminal run
Code:
launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist
sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist
4. Open AppStore and log in.
Is above a more proper solution than that mentioned earlier?
Agree.
I think I found a solution to stop the nagging:
- sing out from the Apple ID preference pane
- reboot into recovery
- open terminal and run
Code:
mv /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.bak

I think that's the service responsible. I've tested it on Catalina 10.15 19A602 and the is no more iCloud message, logging into the App Store and Music works, the Apple ID preference pane works.

View attachment 871601

If for any reason you wish to revert, just run in the same way
Code:
mv /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.bak /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.followupd.plist
 
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