My use case for this would be when I'm watching a youtube video then need to look up something I could go into PIP mode and do research. OR when I'm facetiming or video chatting and need to go into PIP mode and look something up or multitask.
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iPhone X I feel defensive as a iPhone X owner
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My use case for this would be when I'm watching a youtube video then need to look up something I could go into PIP mode and do research. OR when I'm facetiming or video chatting and need to go into PIP mode and look something up or multitask.
But that is the great thing isn’t it just? You don’t have to care about that. Those that do get the full experience, those that don’t well don’t
And as unlimited SMS is included with nearly any contract you don’t care and don’t have to choose. To me that is a great advantage.
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That is exactly what my iPad Pro does very well. And there I actually have the useable screen space to do that comfortably and easily.
Yeah it's a package deal that sets them apart.
This description reminds me of a YT reviewer responding to a subscriber asking why an LG model didn't rate highly in their phone ratings...he said the LG (V30?) did everything well, but none of its features were the best in any category.
So the X may be great in all areas & surpass the competition in some, the LG is only considered good/ok across the board, without topping any list.
I think things will come full circle in a few generations - Android users will get bored of the same/similar UI on any Android phone & get curious...maybe try IOS again or for the first time.
Apple doesn't need to do much to drastically change IOS imo, apart from making (keeping) it silky smooth, reliable & fast. It's what differentiates them from a myriad of sameness of their competition.
The iPad version is exactly what what I was thinking although being able to text or send a file during a FaceTime session on any device could be extremely useful.
“Hey check out the file I just sent you”
It's an age and economic thing.
My work and social circles are all executive-types and we all have iPhones and so iMessage is the norm. In my regular Contacts, the people I communicate with at least 6x a year, there is only one person I text who goes green and isn't on an iPhone and he's 23 years old. The other 100+ people all use iPhone's.
I don't want to sound like an elitist, but it has to be said that just like their Tablets, their Notebooks, their Desktops, their Media Streamers, their Watches, and even their Accessories, Apple sells expensive products to a luxury clientele and the iPhone goes along with them. In the early smartphone years with carriers giving iPhone's away for $0 or $99 on a contract the luxury Apple world was open to the average person. Not so anymore. With subsidies a thing of the past and smartphones costing real money, the divide between young and old and rich and poor has never been greater.
I don't understand what you are saying in the highlighted area. Are you saying you don't use the messages app when you text Android users? If not, why not?
I’ve seen numerous people here state that a main reason why they could never switch from iPhones is because of iMessage. I’m just saying that it’s a non-issue for me and presumably anyone who has a large number of contacts who don’t have access to iMessages anyway.
I actually tend to favour Facebook Messenger because it’s completely cross-platform. I can send and receive messages on my iPhone, iPad, Windows PC, and my Android tablet when I used to have one. Doesn’t matter what platform or device the other person is using.
But I can do the same with the messages app. Never even thought about using Facebook messenger. I would think the receiver of the message would have to be on Facebook at the time? (I have not used messenger on any of my iDevices) Maybe it's late and I'm just not understanding what you are saying.
You can send iMessages through your Windows PC to an Android user?
iMessages are not cross-platform. They do me no good when communicating with my girlfriend, for example, because she doesn’t use any Apple devices. I could send her a text from my phone through the messages app, but she won’t receive it on her computer or tablet. Facebook Messenger, however, is cross-platform. And while it can be used through Facebook, it is an independent messaging application, so no, you don’t have to be on Facebook (or even have a Facebook account, I don’t think) to use it.
Okay, understand now. While any android phone when they send a text to my iPhone will show up on my desktop mac, I do not know how a non apple desktop would get a text from me. It's never come up as an issue.
But I can use the messages app on my desktop to send a text to any phone, android or iPhone.
So in my usage scenario, messages works well for me.
Thanks for the explanation.
I would add that it's completely cross-platform AND not tied to any specific device at any time. Whenever I receive a message there, I can answer using my Android, my iPhone, my iPad, my Mac, any of my Windows/Linux computers, etc. I could switch between multiple devices during a conversation and the other person(s) won't know about that (as it's highly irrelevant to them). WhatsApp is annoyingly tied to the phone number, so I'll need to reactivate it whenever I move my main SIM between Android and iPhone.
Imo fab messenger is one of the best message apps out. If it gave you your own number it would be better than hangouts...imo.
I think for a lot of people that don’t like Facebook they may get turned off due to it being a Facebook app.
[doublepost=1514436555][/doublepost]Hopefully once iCloud sync is enabled they’ll throw us a bone and make it accessible through the iCloud web browser.
Well, we never had the subsidies in Finland. The true cost of the iPhone has always been clearly visible here, and it's been going up quite a bit since the iPhone 3G (the first model officially sold here). Actually now the starting price of the X is almost double the amount I paid for my then top-of-the-line 3G back in the day. Naturally other prices have also increased along the years, but not practically doubled. So with the prices going from expensive to stupid expensive I can see why I see many people switching to Android but not that many going to the other direction.
Personally I could afford the X if I wanted to, but right now I can't really justify the price when I got my S8+ from a promotion with practically half of what the X would cost and otherwise the phones are playing in the same league with the X having the advantage in some categories and the S8+ in others. If iOS returns to the quality and stability I've relied on over the years, then the next X will be enticing, but with the mess iOS 11 is currently, it's not worth the hefty premium for me.
I’m pretty sure you need a Facebook account for messenger. And worse then that you then need to give people access to your Facebook profile or actively manage it that they cannot see it. I’m sorry but I don’t want to message my plumber and give him access to my Facebook.
But hey it’s a choice. Also it’s not a proper app. It just runs in a browser, as such yes anyone with any browser can use it.
I love how I can integrated with my OS send and receive proper SMS and iMessage without thinking about the recipient and without having to sign up to applications or wondering whether we are connected or not. Just need a mobile number or land line and we can interact.
Actually it is also available as a proper app. You can access it how you prefer and data syncs between all of them.
I simply switch apps send the file and keep talking. I do that all the time with Skype.
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On windows only? Are you sure it’s not just a browser wrapped in an executable
On windows only? Are you sure it’s not just a browser wrapped in an executable
I was thinking about iOS/Android in this case. On desktop I typically use the browser, haven't checked about an app there.
Aha yes it is an app, but the comments were made in context of the desktop and true multi platform as someone said. And the iOS app definitely requires a connection with Facebook and not only that, it also requires you to be friends. To me that is not even close to a replacement for iMessage.
I've had some conversations in FB Messenger where the other person is not on my friends list, so it shouldn't be a requirement.
But does that really matter what someone says in a video that the Note 8 is "better"? Honestly, who cares. The only one that decides if a phone is better, is the consumer that purchases it. The Note 8 is a great device, but does that really make it better based off what one person says? I don't think it does.
“For the first time in 10 years of owning an iPhone I feel defensive about owning one. The most expensive phone on the planet should be the best phone too as it has always been. However this time around the competition has significantly caught up and one could easily make the case of the competition surpassing the iPhone X. In almost every aspect the iPhone is behind an Android counter-part”
I respectfully disagree.
Camera - From what I’ve read, the cameras are so good on either phone, that unless you are someone who is into photography, you won’t notice. I’m not into photography at the moment so the difference between a score of 95 and 100 is not something I’d notice. As for unlimited storage, undoubtedly, it is a great benefit for Pixel 2 owners (but even then, for two years, correct?), but what percentage of Android phone owners does this include? A very small minority. So, most Android owners, like Apple owners, just have to take advantage of Google’s Photos app. Or Flickr. Plus, I suspect Android users who are truly into photography also keep an external hard drive around. Just like Apple users who are into photography.
OS - Any Android app that I want, I can get on my iPhone. And it’s much appreciated. And I use more individual Google apps than I use Apple’s. But, Apple kills it with their developer community and third party apps. And the vast majority of apps I use are not made by Apple nor Google. That said, the most important app/service I use is iCloud. It is the core of my workflow. The glue between every device I use.
As for bugginess, I’m not seeing it. And even if it were true, I wouldn’t kick them (or any quality brand) to the curb for having one bad cycle, especially since Android has had their fair share of issues over the years. Apple has been consistently good for longer than any other device manufacturer and software developer that I use.
Design - Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is to the bone. This is where I lump your example, Samsung. None of my main computing devices will be from anywhere except Apple, Google, or Microsoft. My priority is a clean, pure, computing environment. I bought a Galaxy tablet a few years ago (2015?) and as I didn’t care for their UI. Whereas I loved my Nexus 7.
I agree, Google is ahead, however, they all have a ways to go. The race has just started, and you’re calling the race when no one has yet to reach the first turn. Google probably will win this race in the long run, but that is several years from now. They’re ahead by a neck length and if that is your priority, you’re right, Android is the phone for your. If it’s not a priority, Siri is good enough (for me) until Google pulls further ahead.
Software innovation - You can’t seriously believe that Android has better professional, entertainment, or productivity apps than Apple? I’m constantly amazed at what both individual developers and large companies develop for iOS. As for using Google apps, again, who cares who makes the apps as long as they are high quality and useful. I welcome and look forward to any Google app released. I have that option on an iPhone. I also enjoy the great professional apps Microsoft releases for iOS.
Battery - Sigh. Device issues go back and forth. How can you bring up rumors of battery life when one of the examples you used had a phone with serious heat issues fairly recently? Things happen on both sides. Android idiots laugh at Apple when they have a problem, then next cycle Apple idiots laugh at Android when they take one on the chin.
Payment system - I travel and I’ve never seen Samsung Pay without Apple Pay. Many times, neither are accepted.
Screen - A race that will go back and forth depending on who has released the latest device.
Class - I consider both the iPhone and the Galaxy to be first class. More over, I’ve never seen anyone really care who was using what, but I may travel in an older circle than you.
“It won't be long before a single Android phone incorporates all the best features into a single phone for a much lesser price.”
You’re assuming Android users are clones and want the same thing. Some want or need removable batteries. Some only want pure Android. Some want or need a first class camera. For some, the best feature is a phone that can do a decent job in everything but at an affordable price. There will never be a ‘perfect’ phone. Not from Apple or Google.
“Owning an iPhone meant owning the best phone money could buy which sadly isn't true any more.”
For me it is. And that may be where you’re having an issue. Because for me, I’m not buying an iPhone. I’m buying another device that utilizes Apple’s killer app, the iCloud services I’m paying for.
Using services baked into the OSes, my Apple devices are connected in a way difficult to achieve natively with Android. New Apple headset? Connect it to one device, and it's connected to all. New Apple TV? Hold your phone near and it's on the network. Phone having battery issues due to indexing and charging in another room? Take the call on my computer. No single company has come close to fulfilling my broad computing needs (phone, tablet, computer, entertainment console, and accessories) as Apple has.
What happens to the video feed?
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My teenager doesn’t have a fb account but has a FB messenger account. There’s even a young kids version of fb messenger now.
You may need to have a Facebook account, but you don’t need to give people access to it. I’ve messaged and received messages from people whom I’m not connected to.
In any case, no, I typically don’t use FB Messenger to communicate with someone who’s not a personal friend. I’m not saying that it’s my exclusive messaging app, just the most convenient universal/cross-platform app that I use.
If iCloud has you excited you will be very pleased at the ability of Google cloud services. Google has always been way ahead on the cloud front. With AI the integration is seamless abomgst apps. People are under estimating the beast Google AI will become over the years. Google integration of cloud services intheirboperating system is as good. They built an operating system around cloud services
More and more people are using Google apps on their devices because apple has largely ignored stock apps. This is the gateway drug to the Android world. Google hasn't been shy of pulling its services from competing platforms (eg YouTube pulled from windows phones and echo devices). I suspect that day is yet very far away for Apple but when that happens a platform dies ( windows phone died because lack of Google support ) Yes iOS can't be compared to the windows platform but the complete dependence that apple has on third party apps is concerning. They seems to be only focused on emoji and Animoji for the last few years rather than real productivity app enhancements. Surprising for a company with Apple's resources.
You haven't really seen Samsung pay. It works on every credit card POS not only the NFC enabled ones like apple. This makes a huge difference in emerging countries.
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