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Tig Bitties

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iPhone XS Max is better than all 3 you mention.

One major problem with your statement that phone runs iOS. Yes Apple designs and makes the best hardware no question but their software blows chunks and sucks. iOS sucks
 

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One major problem with your statement that phone runs iOS. Yes Apple designs and makes the best hardware no question but their software blows chunks and sucks.
And android software is good? I only have to look at my crappy Honor 10 to find that not to be the case. This is a phone that just came out in June.
 

Tig Bitties

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And android software is good? I only have to look at my crappy Honor 10 to find that not to be the case.

Only stock Android. Pixel, OnePlus, Lineage ROM, are Androids good OS all the others are pointless and needless and suck. Even as bad as Samsung or LG UI is there still not as bad as iOS
 

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Only stock Android. Pixel, OnePlus, Lineage ROM, are Androids good OS all the others are pointless and needless and suck. Even as bad as Samsung or LG UI is there still not as bad as iOS
iOS is superior to android, period. Hell, even my Alexa Echo Spot clock is better than android.
 
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One major problem with your statement that phone runs iOS. Yes Apple designs and makes the best hardware no question but their software blows chunks and sucks. iOS sucks
In your opinion. But majority says otherwise. iOS is one of the best smart phone softwares out there period. Sorry you don't like the facts.
 
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cappo3

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Only stock Android. Pixel, OnePlus, Lineage ROM, are Androids good OS all the others are pointless and needless and suck. Even as bad as Samsung or LG UI is there still not as bad as iOS
If you could stop just repeating over and over again that "iOS sucks" and give us some deeper insights... That would be great.
I am looking myself for a new phone for my mother. She never wanted an iPhone for some reason, so I'd really love to know more about your experiences. I kept giving her Samsung phones, right now she's using a Galaxy S7. Before that she had an S5 and an S4. They are all utter crap.
So right now I am leaning towards the next Oneplus 6T (a bit afraid of the quality of the camera though, she really enjoys having a good camera) or this new Pixel 3.
 

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If you could stop just repeating over and over again that "iOS sucks" and give us some deeper insights... That would be great.
I am looking myself for a new phone for my mother. She never wanted an iPhone for some reason, so I'd really love to know more about your experiences. I kept giving her Samsung phones, right now she's using a Galaxy S7. Before that she had an S5 and an S4. They are all utter crap.
So right now I am leaning towards the next Oneplus 6T (a bit afraid of the quality of the camera though, she really enjoys having a good camera) or this new Pixel 3.

LG has come a long way, and I think she would really enjoy the V40. Much lighter than the Samsungs, still has a headphone hack, and the screen isn't curved. It's also edge to edge. Take a serious look. LG software also isn't as bad as Samsungs.
 

Tig Bitties

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If you could stop just repeating over and over again that "iOS sucks" and give us some deeper insights... That would be great.
I am looking myself for a new phone for my mother. She never wanted an iPhone for some reason, so I'd really love to know more about your experiences. I kept giving her Samsung phones, right now she's using a Galaxy S7. Before that she had an S5 and an S4. They are all utter crap.
So right now I am leaning towards the next Oneplus 6T (a bit afraid of the quality of the camera though, she really enjoys having a good camera) or this new Pixel 3.

It's tiring to think about and write my two dozen bullet points why I think iOS isn't good compared to stock Android 9 Pie.

I have before on this site, would need to dig up the this old posts. But right now no time to go through that laundry list
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In your opinion. But majority says otherwise. iOS is one of the best smart phone softwares out there period. Sorry you don't like the facts.

Majority like Big Macs at McDonald's too. Over a billion served. Doesn't means it's a good hamburger.
 

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It's tiring to think about and write my two dozen bullet points why I think iOS isn't good compared to stock Android 9 Pie.

I have before on this site, would need to dig up the this old posts. But right now no time to go through that laundry list
Please do, I am curious as well as I have seen you post that quite a bit in the past few days.

I run both ecosystems, both have flaws, and wins.
 

cappo3

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It's tiring to think about and write my two dozen bullet points why I think iOS isn't good compared to stock Android 9 Pie.

I have before on this site, would need to dig up the this old posts. But right now no time to go through that laundry list
You cannot possibly expect every user reading this thread to go back and search for your "laundry list" every time you mention that iOS is a crappy system (and that appears to happen quite often). It is just of no use to this discussion.
 

Tig Bitties

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You can't go wrong getting the OnePlus 6T I would highly recommend that

Or the new Android One phones, being sold at more budget pricing. LG G7 One, or Nokia 7.1 look to be fantastic stock Android phones.
 

Ralfi

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If you could stop just repeating over and over again that "iOS sucks" and give us some deeper insights... That would be great.
I am looking myself for a new phone for my mother. She never wanted an iPhone for some reason, so I'd really love to know more about your experiences. I kept giving her Samsung phones, right now she's using a Galaxy S7. Before that she had an S5 and an S4. They are all utter crap.
So right now I am leaning towards the next Oneplus 6T (a bit afraid of the quality of the camera though, she really enjoys having a good camera) or this new Pixel 3.
Prime example of why people come here - for informed views to help make their purchase decisions easier.

Yet when they're hit with "Adroid/IOS sucks" posts with no elaboration, it doesn't help anyone.

Sometimes, this place resembles a YouTube video comments section...
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You cannot possibly expect every user reading this thread to go back and search for your "laundry list" every time you mention that iOS is a crappy system (and that appears to happen quite often). It is just of no use to this discussion.

People that need to be heard keep repeating (yelling) the same things here, ad nauseum.
 
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Tsepz

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I'm not going to pay $1200 for an iPhone X Max, and I want to get a phone that's going to last me at least 3 years. The Pixel 3 won't be as expensive as the Max will it?
I'd say treat yourself to a Note9 512GB. Nothing better than the substantial feeling of a Note in your hand, each time I comeback to my Note8 after reviewing a device I am just so relieved. :)

Display feels large and immersive, nothing disturbing it, the SPen always comes in handy; I had to sign an NDA yesterday for a device I will be getting and testing before its announced next week, and I didn't have my Note8 with me as I was using the Mate20 Lite,I suddenly started asking myself if I would have to print and sign, something I have not had to do for years since my Note 4

Anyway, whatever suits you.
 

rdowty

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If you think owning iPhones is expensive just wait until you try to resell whatever Android phone you end up buying. $1000 for a phone that's worth $500 in 18 months sucks. $1000 for a phone thats basically a throwaway in 18 months really sucks.
 

Nilhum

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You bought a 1000 dollar phone and have put the note 9, another $1000 phone on your list. The max is just $100 more. First, why do you need to upgrade? The X will last you well over 3 years. If it's too expensive to buy a new one keep the phone you have now.

Why did you only list expensive phones? If price is such a problem go towards the One Plus. The Pixel XL is $900. How is that cheap? Note 9 is 1k, how is that cheap?
 

Tsepz

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If you think owning iPhones is expensive just wait until you try to resell whatever Android phone you end up buying. $1000 for a phone that's worth $500 in 18 months sucks. $1000 for a phone thats basically a throwaway in 18 months really sucks.
Glad I don't worry about such. I giveaway all my phones when I am done with them. When I get my next device I will give my Note8 to a family member who needs one.

I don't mind paying extra for a device that has great functionally as I know most phones don't offer what it has.

Worrying about phone values, IMO, is pointless, but thats just my opinionz I don't do trade-in programmes and all that

Same with my cars, buy it, pay it off ASAP (~18-24months) and then use it long as possible with extended warranty and maintenance plan. Never really care about resale as long as I enjoy it.

Now a house on the other hand, that's a whole different story.
 

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I'd say treat yourself to a Note9 512GB. Nothing better than the substantial feeling of a Note in your hand, each time I comeback to my Note8 after reviewing a device I am just so relieved. :)

Display feels large and immersive, nothing disturbing it, the SPen always comes in handy; I had to sign an NDA yesterday for a device I will be getting and testing before its announced next week, and I didn't have my Note8 with me as I was using the Mate20 Lite,I suddenly started asking myself if I would have to print and sign, something I have not had to do for years since my Note 4

Anyway, whatever suits you.

He doesn't want to own a $1200 phone and that is $1249. LOL. And in a month it's $600.
 

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Agreed. I'd like to see this "list" too. He's been on all afternoon and still hasn't posted it......

If list is all you wanted, how about one like this :p

iPhone/ios cannot do all these :)


Hardware

- S-PEN: stylus with 4000 level of pressure sensivity. Screen and stylus designed as a package to give complete pen/draw experience (unlike Ipen which is just a tag on). S-Pen is BT capable so can be use as basic remote camera/presentation clicker or usage can be customized for individual apps. Pen charges in seconds.
- Headphone jack
- Dual SIM card support. No need to carry 2 phones around.
- Built-in memory upto 512gb and MicroSD card support up to total 1 TB (future proof)
- Built-in heart rate/SP02/stress sensor
- USB Type C with usb-host /4K HDMI out/ DEX support
- LED Notification Light: Get reminder of missed events discretely.
- Fingerprint sensor for instant unlock.
- Dual Aperture camera - For better low light capability
Connectivity
- SIDESYNC : operate phone from any PC/mac (i.e. not proprietary) within wifi network. Phone screen appears as a virtual window in PC/mac. You can use PC mouse/speaker/mic to make calls or continue an editing session or run any apps in the phone from the PC. Similar to Iphone hand-off/continuity but more flexible (without needing to login to same account for all devices).
- DEX docking station- transform phone into a full desktop experience. Let you do basic desktop workflows without needing another desktop PC.
- WIFI Display (or miracast) built-in. Mirror phone screen to any wifi-capable TV without any additional setup or intermediate hardware (like apple tv). Or reverse mirror any TV screen to phone.
- WIFI sharing - use phone to act as wifi repeater/router for other devices
- Transfer any files between ANY devices via Wifi-Direct / BT. No additional setup/hardware requirement.
- Plug in portable disk/thumbdrive directly to phone using usb cable. Quickly transfer out your files/photos/videos (without going through slow and expensive cloud storage or itunes). Or just play a video off your portable drive. Or use mouse to interact with phone.
- Play music to 2 different sound devices via BT 5.0 (e.g. share music to 2 BT headsets). Also set individual app to specific sound source e.g. waze to always output sound to phone speakers and music players to BT. Using sound assistant you can set up different sound profiles depending on situations. Use Adapt Sound to fine tune sound to match you.
- Samsung Pay - can be used at more outlets (since it supports both NFC and magnetic strip)
- File System: something fundamental that we have been using (that's missing from Iphone). You can load any files into internal storage and ANY installed apps can use those files directly (no need for workaround using expensive and slow cloud storages)
- VR headset support - a whole new experience for you to explore
- With Samsung Connect + SmartThings Hub - provide an integrated systems to connect/manage your TV/fridge/appliances or home audio/visual and home accessories like lights/sensors. SmartThings supports most home automation protocols and there many more 3rd party devices support compared to Homekit.
OS / Software
- AOD - always on display. simple and yet very useful. Plus you can theme it as well.
- Multi-Window - run apps in separate top/bottom windows or popup windows simultaneously. e.g continue to view you tube while you are doing a whatsapp chat.
- Secure Folder - it is like a second login environment. It has a separate copy of system settings. You can install second copy of your app here and it runs in its own seperate data space. e.g. you can concurrently run 2 copies of whatsapp (one for work number and the personal number) and get notify at the same time. Or setup another Exchange account to sync work email which is only viewable in secure folder.
- Game launcher - a separate environment to launch games. You can set sound, notify on/off, no accidental touches, boost performance etc
- Advanced Camera software - Built-in AI to detect different scenes. Pro mode. Simultaneous front/back camera photo/video taking
- Set default app - you can set your own app to be default app to open different kind of files/data. Or change the soft keyboard.
- Shortcut - create shortcuts to anything: one touch direct dial/sms, directly open battery usage in Settings, open specific screen of an app directly etc. Place shortcuts anywhere - in homescreen, notification, side panel etc.
- Home/Launcher - fully customizable with themes, widgets, icon packs and live wallpapers - no more boring grid of icons. You can also use other launchers as well. Personalize your UI anyway you like.
- Smart Lock - auto unlock when phone is connected to certain pre-specified locations (incl BT/Wifi/geo locations)
- Side panels - customizable with many useful add-on panels as well. Includes functionality to clip your screen or create GIF from screen.
- Play/App Store: Many app stores to choose from. You can also side-load apps giving you more flexibilities and cost benefits.
- Other Niceties - (1) record phone calls. (2) smart stay to keep screen on while you are looking at it. (3) answer call by pressing volume key (4) end call with power key (5) reduce UI size for one handed use (6) take continuous screen shot (7) flip phone over to mute call (8) quickly launch camera by double press power button 9) gesture-based navigation with One-Hand-Operation+
Automation
There are unlimited possibilities with Android multi-tasking capability. You can setup tasks which the phone can do automatically for you. This opens up quite a lot of use cases NOT possible with Iphone. Some examples you can have running in your phone.
- automatically mute phone in a meeting (using calendar entries info). Auto unmute after meeting.
- auto set ring volume based on ambient noise level
- auto set network profile (bt/wifi/nfc/location) depending on situations/locations
- auto redirect important calls to another phone when you are engaged (without using operator services).
- start call recording for calls from certain persons.
- auto change wallpaper based on events or periodically.
- auto send pre-defined SMS to contacts having birthday/anniversary/etc
- tap on NFC sticker - initiated certain tasks.
- pull files from certain ftp/http locations to phone periodically or when certain parameters changed
- set screen to auto-rotate only when certain apps are launched. Prevent unwanted screen rotation.
- selective sync files from multiple cloud storages to local folders
- auto start/close Map navigation when phone connected to car BT
- auto start music app when headphone is plug in
- start tasks on phone remotely by sending an SMS to phone.
- auto read out received text/email under certain preset conditions like driving/phone turned over/etc
- and MANY MANY MORE.
 
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I'm busy with my company. But didn't have time during the busy workday to post it.

But thankfully Mib 1800 was kind enough to do that. Thank you. What he posted pretty much sums it up.

Sure you were, but you were posting in the forum elsewhere during the afternoon. Half of what he posted wasn't true anyways.
 
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Tig Bitties

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Sure you were, but you were posting in the forum elsewhere during the afternoon. Half of what he posted wasn't true anyways.

I didn't have time to put together a good list like mid did. And what's with the comment about mid not writing the truth ? You almost sound like a Trump supporter with all the fake news BS

- AoD ( Always on Display )
- Default app settings. I want Google Maps default. I rather use Chrome as my default browser.
- LED Notification light
- Software Nav keys ( With a BACK button )
- Phone app, if in the middle of writing a text and a phone call comes and it should appear as a banner at the top of the screen for me to decline or accept it should not take over the entire screen kicking me out of my messag I am typing.
- Phone used as a portable hard drive, plug it into my PC, throw a file on it, unplug and go
- Easily change my ringtone or notification sound, besides the default sounds only Apple gives you.
- Dark theme, it's not used to be cool, it's actually easier on the eyes, as white can get too blinding.
- Move app icons to anywhere I want on my phone, like my most used apps on the bottom of the screen, just above the dock. With nothing above thisr apps, except maybe my calendar widget.
- Cast videos or pictures onto my 4k tv with ease. Without any other dongles or hardware needed. Just my phone and a Smart TV only.
- Google Assistant being better than Siri
- Google Now news feed on left screen
- App drawer to put not ofyen used apps


This is just a quick reply, not having a ton of time right now to really sit and think it over more. I know I'm missing a ton of stuff.
 
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