iPhone SE (2016) I prefer the SE over my 11 pro after a few weeks of use

[aevan]

I received an iPhone SE as my new work phone a month ago and since then I find myself reaching for it more than my 11 pro max for general tasks. Touch ID is a million times more accurate than Face ID and the simple

My wife has an SE and it’s really great! I can see why people love it. But Touch ID being “a million times more accurate” I don’t get. Face ID works much better for me. As soon as my fingers get even slightly sweaty, Touch ID doesn’t work. Face ID, on the other hand, it made me forget I even have a passcode.

Anyway, SE is really great. And light! I almost forgot how nice it is to hold a light phone in your hand.

 

[kristof46]

Because of the weight I am looking forward to iPhone 12 5,4". I can't understand why X/XS/11Pro isn't same size as 8 but with bigger screen. Also why 11 pro is sooo heavy comparing to X and XS. It is ridiculous.

 

[DJ_Smith]

They used this design so they could keep the price down. If they had used the same design as the 11 series the phone wouldn’t be $400.

The XR has the same design as XS but significantly cheaper..?

 

[heyyitssusan]

Because of the weight I am looking forward to iPhone 12 5,4". I can't understand why X/XS/11Pro isn't same size as 8 but with bigger screen. Also why 11 pro is sooo heavy comparing to X and XS. It is ridiculous.

Bigger batter in the 11 Pro. the main reason I got the 11 Pro instead of 11 was due to the screen size. I was loving the 5.8” but man is it heavy.. thought I’d get used to it but 9 months later I can still feel the weight.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The XR has the same design as XS but significantly cheaper..?

Component layouts and managing the design and source of yet another LCD screen most probably wasn’t worth the resources on a phone with perhaps the smallest profit margin in the range. The original SE used the chassis and screen from a device that had come out 4 years prior. It was very popular despite that with price and form factor being the driving force.

There are plenty of people out there that ‘just want an iPhone’ and don’t necessarily care what components it offers. My wife is waiting for the iPhone 12 like me but has been tempted by the SE offers. She doesn’t care what the phone looks like as long as it works well and I know a lot of people with that mindset.

 

[Shanghaichica]

The XR has the same design as XS but significantly cheaper..?

Yes but it’s not $400.

 

[DJ_Smith]

Yes but it’s not $400.

The difference between new SE and XR is just $100 dollars. No big deal. I would have happily paid $100 more for that design in SE body.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The difference between new SE and XR is just $100 dollars. No big deal. I would have happily paid $100 more for that design in SE body.

They are not going to please everybody and for a phone that only costs £400 I think it does enough. The iPhone 12 5.4" iPhone due later this year will be in the price range you claim to be comfortable with and will have an all screen design. It sounds like its got your name on it

 

[Shanghaichica]

The difference between new SE and XR is just $100 dollars. No big deal. I would have happily paid $100 more for that design in SE body.

That would require Apple to do some work and design for a new screen size. The SE is a budget phone. It works because Apple already have the parts from older models. The XR still costs £210 more than the 2020 SE. You might be able to get it cheaper from third party sellers but Apple are still selling it for over £200 more.

 

[freeagent]

The difference between new SE and XR is just $100 dollars. No big deal. I would have happily paid $100 more for that design in SE body.

Where I live a 64GB SE is 615 plus tax @ 13%, The XR 64GB is 820 plus tax. And you can only get the XR in 64GB.

 

[boswald]

I still miss my X sometimes because of the screen size, but I don't miss the hardware problems it had. In other words, I love my SE.

 

[parker5011]

I still miss my X sometimes because of the screen size, but I don't miss the hardware problems it had. In other words, I love my SE.

I had the X and had some problems with mine too. I’d be interested to hear what problems you had

 

[boswald]

I had the X and had some problems with mine too. I’d be interested to hear what problems you had

One of the speakers went dead or randomly cut out, and it just got slow over the years. Can't really explain it since I've done the usual steps to remedy it (reset all settings, reboot regularly, disable features, etc). Also, WiFi connections would randomly drop for no reason.

 

[parker5011]

One of the speakers went dead or randomly cut out, and it just got slow over the years. Can't really explain it since I've done the usual steps to remedy it (reset all settings, reboot regularly, disable features, etc). Also, WiFi connections would randomly drop for no reason.

I take excellent care of my electronics and one day the battery got white hot. The screen started separating from the housing. It was the weirdest thing

 

[WingsAndBeer]

This is what you said: “having to wait on Face ID and then swipe up”.

This is conclusively wrong regardless of opinion. You do not have to wait on Face ID before swiping up.

You’re entitled to your preference but you’re not entitled to making up limitations that don’t exist.

Yeah I know what I said, and my last reply didn’t cover that because, as I am someone who hasn’t used it since iPhone X on iOS 11, you are probably right about it. I didn’t deny it. But, Touch ID is faster than Face ID. That is conclusive. Enjoy your security system, I’ll enjoy mine. Thanks for the lesson on current Face ID methods, but it changes nothing about my original statement.

 

[Lucas284]

If only the SE got the 11 Pro Max’s battery...

 

[boswald]

I take excellent care of my electronics and one day the battery got white hot. The screen started separating from the housing. It was the weirdest thing

Same with me: I basically baby my stuff and yet it still happened.

 

[ipedro]

But, Touch ID is faster than Face ID. That is conclusive.

Well, not quite.

Maybe you prefer clicking the Home button to go Home in which you already have your finger on the Touch ID sensor, though Face ID's swiping up to go home is comparatively equal, maybe a fraction of a second behind given Touch ID's tech maturity.

That said, Face ID works faster literally everywhere else in iOS from tapping a notification, to signing into an account or website, to autofilling private information in a form, to opening a protected app, to going into private settings. After you do any of these things, it doesn't ask you to put your finger on the Touch ID sensor. It just knows it's you and let's you in.

Again, I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinion. Use what you want. But as the GIF above demonstrates and as you can see for yourself with any Touch ID vs Face ID phones in front of you, Face ID removes the security friction throughout all of iOS because it's passive security where you don't need to do anything — iOS just automatically checks who you are when needed — vs Touch ID's active security where you're constantly being asked to verify yourself whenever performing a secure function, which in this day and age happens quite often.

 

[kristof46]

The XR has the same design as XS but significantly cheaper..?

Xr is 6,1” which is waaay to big. 5,8” sometimes isn’t comfortable to be used with one hand. If you want bigger phone let’s buy Max.

 

[0920872]

I went from the 11 Pro Max to the SE ... and although I loved the SE ... the battery life is so horrendously bad compared to the Max that I just couldn't do it. I went from charging my phone every two days to three times a day. It's a really great little phone, but battery life is too important to me. It's a stupidly fast little phone.

Does battery saver mode help with this?

 

[Bandaman]

Does battery saver mode help with this?

No. The battery is hot garbage.

 

[0920872]

No. The battery is hot garbage.

Hmm. I still use a 7 Plus that I charge about every 36H, but with my androids I've only had to charge every 2-3 days and man, not having to worry about my charge felt fantastic.

 

[WingsAndBeer]

Well, not quite.

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Maybe you prefer clicking the Home button to go Home in which you already have your finger on the Touch ID sensor, though Face ID's swiping up to go home is comparatively equal, maybe a fraction of a second behind given Touch ID's tech maturity.

That said, Face ID works faster literally everywhere else in iOS from tapping a notification, to signing into an account or website, to autofilling private information in a form, to opening a protected app, to going into private settings. After you do any of these things, it doesn't ask you to put your finger on the Touch ID sensor. It just knows it's you and let's you in.

Again, I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinion. Use what you want. But as the GIF above demonstrates and as you can see for yourself with any Touch ID vs Face ID phones in front of you, Face ID removes the security friction throughout all of iOS because it's passive security where you don't need to do anything — iOS just automatically checks who you are when needed — vs Touch ID's active security where you're constantly being asked to verify yourself whenever performing a secure function, which in this day and age happens quite often.

It's all good, I respect your opinion and perspective and understand. But that video shows one specific use case (responding to a notification), which is actually the slowest. Plus it's a gen 1 sensor. Please understand, this whole time, I have been talking about for my own personal use case. In and out of my pocket without regard for notifications (unless it's a text and 3D touch is there for that). Laying on my desk at work. Having my children and wife unlock my phone without the passcode. Yes, Face ID is instant once it's unlocked. But I unlock my phone far more than logging in to another app (staying signed in) or making purchases. Best regards!
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The difference between new SE and XR is just $100 dollars. No big deal. I would have happily paid $100 more for that design in SE body.

It's $200, not $100.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Well, not quite.

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Maybe you prefer clicking the Home button to go Home in which you already have your finger on the Touch ID sensor, though Face ID's swiping up to go home is comparatively equal, maybe a fraction of a second behind given Touch ID's tech maturity.

That said, Face ID works faster literally everywhere else in iOS from tapping a notification, to signing into an account or website, to autofilling private information in a form, to opening a protected app, to going into private settings. After you do any of these things, it doesn't ask you to put your finger on the Touch ID sensor. It just knows it's you and let's you in.

Again, I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinion. Use what you want. But as the GIF above demonstrates and as you can see for yourself with any Touch ID vs Face ID phones in front of you, Face ID removes the security friction throughout all of iOS because it's passive security where you don't need to do anything — iOS just automatically checks who you are when needed — vs Touch ID's active security where you're constantly being asked to verify yourself whenever performing a secure function, which in this day and age happens quite often.

Opening the phone is still very slightly quicker on TouchID but then we are talking a fraction of a second. Neither of these technologies are massively quicker than each other in the different circumstances that they beat each other in. They essentially do the same thing and sometimes FaceID wins and sometimes TouchID.

 

[0920872]

Opening the phone is still very slightly quicker on TouchID but then we are talking a fraction of a second. Neither of these technologies are massively quicker than each other in the different circumstances that they beat each other in. They essentially do the same thing and sometimes FaceID wins and sometimes TouchID.

Is FaceID able to unlock your phone now with a mask on? Because if mask wearing is mandatory at your work place, FaceID has to work through mask to be even worth comparing.