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m1maverick

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Because people who return a brand new , fully functioning machine just because it attracts a few fingerprints on it are not of this world
Sure they are. They exist in this world so your response doesn't answer my question.
 

DD88

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Sure they are. They exist in this world so your response doesn't answer my question.
Well they don’t exist in the realm of intelligence, hopefully Apple informs these customers where to go, refuse to accept and takes them to the cleaners
 
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ilikewhey

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It's a rare use case that someone upgrades to a new machine because they 'need' it, or rather, that it unlocks power that pays for itself (ie. video editors w/ high-powered workstations and the like, software devs where seconds here or there add up over the course of a day).

Folks who update every cycle or two do it because they love having the latest and greatest. No shame in that. Those who get a new machine every 5+ years are the types that barely push things and it's arbitrary... either the thing they have has become too much to maintain, or it's enough of an upgrade to be meaningfully worth it for them.

I do feel advice to 'not' upgrade from an M1 -> M2 is misplaced. To me, the main reason *most* choose to upgrade is because a machine has had a general refresh, ie. it's a new form factor, has new tech, etc. The MBA finally got one after years. It's rather silly to suggest to someone not upgrade because performance is marginally improved... while that's often used as justification, it's rarely a true value-add for most.
lol i'm still trying to justify my latest purchase for a mbp 14inch, i'm currently on a older mbp with 16gb ram and the memory swap is outta control. i decided i had enough when ms team crashed 4 times ina roll and i had to get the entire marketing team to talk to me on discord instead.
 

m1maverick

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Well they don’t exist in the realm of intelligence, hopefully Apple informs these customers where to go, refuse to accept and takes them to the cleaners
Is wanting your laptop to look good a sign that someone lacks intelligence?
 
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Chateaunole-du-Pape

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Well they don’t exist in the realm of intelligence, hopefully Apple informs these customers where to go, refuse to accept and takes them to the cleaners
What are you talking about? Apple has a very simple, no-questions-asked, 14-day return policy. I agree that returning the machine because it shows fingerprints easily is a bit capricious, particularly since the fingerprint issue is well publicized at this point, but again, a reason for a return is not needed.

I could return my new M2 Air because "my cat didn't like it," and that would be no more or less valid a reason. All that matters for a return is that someone decided not to keep it, didn't damage it, and returned it within the 14-day window. (Full disclosure: all three of our cats seem to like my new machine just fine, and I'll be keeping it.)
 

DD88

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Is wanting your laptop to look good a sign that someone lacks intelligence?
Where I’m from a laptop is designed to do tasks and not designed to look good. If it looks good, great…that’s a bonus, that’s why I got my MacBook Pro. If a computer looked like a hairy arse but was the most powerful computer ever built and allowed me to do my tasks better I’d buy it over something good looking that wasn’t as powerful anyday.
 

fisherking

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Where I’m from a laptop is designed to do tasks and not designed to look good. If it looks good, great…that’s a bonus, that’s why I got my MacBook Pro. If a computer looked like a hairy arse but was the most powerful computer ever built and allowed me to do my tasks better I’d buy it over something good looking that wasn’t as powerful anyday.
where you're from? where is that?? can't you just admit that you're stating your opinions, nothing more or less..?

apple products have always been, to a very-large degree, about aesthetics. and if someone has an aesthetic concern, they should be able to return their device. oh wait! they can...

anyway, chateaunole-du-pape said it perfectly, above.
 

m1maverick

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Where I’m from a laptop is designed to do tasks and not designed to look good. If it looks good, great…that’s a bonus, that’s why I got my MacBook Pro. If a computer looked like a hairy arse but was the most powerful computer ever built and allowed me to do my tasks better I’d buy it over something good looking that wasn’t as powerful anyday.
This is in direct contrast to your statement:

"People should be able to buy whatever machine they want and not have people judge them for it..."​
 

dizmonk

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I’m a car guy but I’ll never be able to afford a Lambo. However, I don’t **** on people that own one or claim I drove one but my Prius is almost as good and gets better gas mileage.
I'm not a car guy but my teenager always teases me when we see a Tesla she knows I can't afford while she's sitting in my Prius... I'm 100% with the OP. Buy what you want... If you want to see maniacal jealousy/anger/whatever just start talking about sports betting....
 

MajorFubar

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I was in a meeting yesterday and realized one reason why I may have come to largely dislike the wedge design: A colleague who hasn't had his work laptop refreshed in ages (mine was swapped out over two years ago) had the old version of our corporate machine, an absolutely awful Toshiba that has a wedge design and silver color fairly reminiscent of the wedge Air.

Between the overall lousy performance of those Toshiba machines, and the mere fact that I associate them with work in general (particularly a period of my career that I didn't much enjoy), I think I have a subliminal distaste for the wedge design.
I can relate to that but from a different perspective. My hatred of PCs in general stems from the fact I mostly associate them with work, battling to get SharePoint, among other things, to do something useful, and at home years ago when I fought with Windows XP then Windows 7 to run a home studio.

It's a hard yet very mentally mature thing to acknowledge our cognitive biases.
 
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Zest28

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Because people who return a brand new , fully functioning machine just because it attracts a few fingerprints on it are not of this world

Why not?

If someone is not happy with the machine he has paid for, he is allowed to exchange the machine within in the 14-day period.

You are not “of this world” if you stick with a machine you are not happy with after paying so much money, while you have the option to exchange for a machine you like better.
 

DD88

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Why not?

If someone is not happy with the machine he has paid for, he is allowed to exchange the machine within in the 14-day period.

You are not “of this world” if you stick with a machine you are not happy with after paying so much money, while you have the option to exchange for a machine you like better.
It’s literally a colour just blast some Dulux gloss on it and it will be fine
 

Feek

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I don't have any practical reason for doing so - my M1 was perfectly fine.
I'm the same, absolutely nothing wrong with my M1 MBA. I just looked at the old one and said "I fancy a new laptop", two days later I ordered it and then collected it the next day.

I sold my M1 MBA, just ordered an M2 MBA, and I feel like a kid at Christmas.
I did this but round the other way, bought the M2 MBA and then sold the M1 MBA.

Went from 8/8/16/512 to 8/10/16/1Tb, both Space Grey because it's my favourite colour of them.

I've had the new one for a couple of weeks and it's a real beauty. The slightly larger screen due to the smaller bezels is superb and the little bit of extra vertical space is nice as well. I don't use it at anything near its potential but even for menial tasks, I can tell it's faster than the M1. I said the M1 MBA was a keeper. I kept it for two and a half years. This one is a keeper, perhaps I'll keep it for longer than the old one, perhaps not.
 

raythompsontn

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This one is a keeper, perhaps I'll keep it for longer than the old one, perhaps not.
As Apple soothsayers dangle a (mythical at this point) 15" M3 Air in our faces.

I too traded my three month old M1 Air in for a M2 Air. More memory, larger storage. Why? Because I wanted one. The best reason. Slightly larger display, larger function buttons, better camera, slightly better performance. More good enough reasons. It's my money to spend as I see fit in the way I see fit. If others don't like it, well when they pay for my purchases then they can have a say in how I use the item purchased.
 
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