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MajorFubar

macrumors 68020
Oct 27, 2021
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I don't think you're posting to the same MacRumors.com forums that I post to. The culture on here is nitpicky as all hell when it comes to posts that the community deems to be needless.

Also, if you actually read what I wrote, you'd see that I'm not knocking the poster for spending money on whatever tech he or she wants. I'm finding it odd that this needs to be stated for external validation given that most people don't debate with wants, but rather with wants masqueraded as needs.
Don't worry. Some people just like to start an argument even if the holistic theme of your post it that you're actually agreeing with them. It's happened to me a few times on this forum during my comparatively-short stay. I end up thinking these people begin to read a post with an agenda that the post is obviously going to be confrontational so they cherrypick the words to fit what they think it's saying.
 
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Neanda

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Dec 23, 2021
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Some like clothes, some like jewels. Others like fancy food, while still others like plays and concerts. Me, I like a desk full of gadgets to tinker with.

I wish more people on these forums understood that, and stopped telling others how misguided their priorities are. I wish we could be excited for each other, rather than having a judgy holier-than-thou attitude I've been seeing more and more on these forums. I wish we were allowed to enjoy our tech without fear of being mocked for not going with what others believe to be the "better"

Exactly, and is also one of the reasons why I hate the Apple support forum community, it's a bunch of fks with too much oneupmanship and a trope of using only what you need. It's also why I avoid interacting in mac forums like this.

I love new tech to see what collaborative minds have created. Although, I do want to make sure it's a significant upgrade rather than a refinement. For e.g. I didn't upgrade my MBP 15 2018 until the M1 Pro 2021 made its' appeaance, because the ones in-between were just all incremental updates.

And notifications on my wrist (or even on my phone) ain't my thing at all, but a pair of normal-looking AR glasses are the the thing I'm most looking forward to, without a doubt.
 

imnotthewalrus

macrumors 6502a
Nov 20, 2015
923
2,061
earth
I'm admittedly jealous...I bought an M1 MBA refurbished (base model, $849) 2 months ago as my 2015 MBP 15" (loaded to the max, spec-wise) died due to apparent water damage. However, I AM happy with my purchase as I am on a very tight budget. Yesterday I stopped into a Best Buy to check out the M2 MBA, and I must confess - it's a beautiful machine, but (and my "needs" are likely different than yours) I didn't find it to be faster than my M1, but these days the most demanding app I use is Logic Pro and my M1 Air is faster at rendering my music projects than my 2015 MBP! I am certain that in 2 or 3 years I'll get the itch to upgrade...and I DO very much like the new form factor. Anyway, Congrats and enjoy (and forgive me for rambling!)
 

WilliApple

macrumors 6502a
Feb 19, 2022
992
1,434
Colorado
I would upgrade to the M2 Air, was even considering the M2 Air until I heard about SSDgate and the it gets hotter than the M1, and the fingerprints on the Midnight model (Was also considering the Midnight model). I also have the M1 Air. I might wait for M3 and hope that it is 4 or 3 nm technology, and that SSDgate is fixed as well.

Anyways, how are you liking your M2 Air? Are you having any issues with it?
 

bbfc

macrumors 68040
Oct 22, 2011
3,910
1,676
Newcastle, England.
I would upgrade to the M2 Air, was even considering the M2 Air until I heard about SSDgate and the it gets hotter than the M1, and the fingerprints on the Midnight model (Was also considering the Midnight model). I also have the M1 Air. I might wait for M3 and hope that it is 4 or 3 nm technology, and that SSDgate is fixed as well.

Anyways, how are you liking your M2 Air? Are you having any issues with it?
The SSD speeds and thermal throttling are so overblown. In reality it’s makes very little difference. I’ve been using my M2 MBA the same as my M1 and it’s not got any hotter, or hot at all. Don’t let reviews by people pushing the machine to its absolute limits and doing tasks that it wasn’t really designed to do, put you off.
 

ApplePhy

macrumors 6502
Nov 7, 2013
321
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It's a rare use case that someone upgrades to a new machine because they 'need' it, or rather, that it unlocks power that pays for itself (ie. video editors w/ high-powered workstations and the like, software devs where seconds here or there add up over the course of a day).

Folks who update every cycle or two do it because they love having the latest and greatest. No shame in that. Those who get a new machine every 5+ years are the types that barely push things and it's arbitrary... either the thing they have has become too much to maintain, or it's enough of an upgrade to be meaningfully worth it for them.

I do feel advice to 'not' upgrade from an M1 -> M2 is misplaced. To me, the main reason *most* choose to upgrade is because a machine has had a general refresh, ie. it's a new form factor, has new tech, etc. The MBA finally got one after years. It's rather silly to suggest to someone not upgrade because performance is marginally improved... while that's often used as justification, it's rarely a true value-add for most.
totally agree. especially in 2022, where tech has advanced so much that for general use case scenarios your iPhone from last year will last you for a few more years, so the need to upgrade sooner than that is purely based on marginal improvements. The REAL reason for many is to have the latest and greatest.
 
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ApplePhy

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Nov 7, 2013
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I don't have any practical reason for doing so - my M1 was perfectly fine.

I sold my M1 MBA, just ordered an M2 MBA, and I feel like a kid at Christmas.

Tech is a hobby of mine. I like the latest and greatest gadgets, and don't mind spending money on them. It's certainly not from any kind of 'need', but rather a 'want'. I know this, and there's nothing wrong with that mindset.

As some have called it, it may be a "fool's game" to some, but I could say the same for the way many others spend their time, energy, and money. That is something I would never do, however, as it is their life to live as they see fit - to each their own.

As I said, tech is not a collection of tools for me, it's a hobby. I don't want to just read about the latest gadgets and gizmos, I want to feel them, to use them, and to truly appreciate the design and engineering that goes into them. I can't afford all the tech I would like to try, but I can afford to take a financial hit every few years in order to sell my current device and buy the newest one I'm interested in. This year, it's the M2 MBA.

Some like clothes, some like jewels. Others like fancy food, while still others like plays and concerts. Me, I like a desk full of gadgets to tinker with.

I wish more people on these forums understood that, and stopped telling others how misguided their priorities are. I wish we could be excited for each other, rather than having a judgy holier-than-thou attitude I've been seeing more and more on these forums. I wish we were allowed to enjoy our tech without fear of being mocked for not going with what others believe to be the "better" choice.

You do you, and I'll do the same.
BINGO, i'm in the exact same boat.

I've had my m1 air (base model) for 9 months (bought it for $850 NEW), and it's been the best laptop i've ever owned. felt solid, keyboard and trackpad were amazing, and it was FAST for my purposes.

received my m2 air midnight last week and sold my air for $545.

obviously i didn't NEED the m2 air, honestly the m1 would've lasted me comfortably for 3 more years.

but i WANTED one so i upgraded. everyone has things they spend money on (going out, drinking, clothes, etc...) it's just what you prioritize when it comes to leisure/enjoyment in life. mine also happens to be tech, so i agree with your sentiment 100%.
 

Sheepish-Lord

macrumors 68030
Oct 13, 2021
2,535
5,149
Here’s a little bit of honesty as well and it’s that those who claim new tech isn’t “that good” or they haven’t felt the need to upgrade their iPhone 8 because they tried a 13 PM and couldn’t tell the difference are usually lying, lack money, or both. Regardless if they use their money for alternative purposes (e.g. family, school, savings) people flock to the internet to see the latest tech then use their situation to justify why a product is bad or not worth it.

Consumers who have this mindset assume others are in their same position and can’t fathom how people can afford to buy yearly tech. After all, if they didn’t care about tech then why would they be posting on forums or making comments? It’s a hard reality for tech lovers who are stuck with generations old tech because if they could afford it they would but their life doesn’t allow it and may never will.

I’m a car guy but I’ll never be able to afford a Lambo. However, I don’t **** on people that own one or claim I drove one but my Prius is almost as good and gets better gas mileage.
 

Mr. Dee

macrumors 603
Dec 4, 2003
5,990
12,840
Jamaica
I don't have any practical reason for doing so - my M1 was perfectly fine.

I sold my M1 MBA, just ordered an M2 MBA, and I feel like a kid at Christmas.

Tech is a hobby of mine. I like the latest and greatest gadgets, and don't mind spending money on them. It's certainly not from any kind of 'need', but rather a 'want'. I know this, and there's nothing wrong with that mindset.

As some have called it, it may be a "fool's game" to some, but I could say the same for the way many others spend their time, energy, and money. That is something I would never do, however, as it is their life to live as they see fit - to each their own.

As I said, tech is not a collection of tools for me, it's a hobby. I don't want to just read about the latest gadgets and gizmos, I want to feel them, to use them, and to truly appreciate the design and engineering that goes into them. I can't afford all the tech I would like to try, but I can afford to take a financial hit every few years in order to sell my current device and buy the newest one I'm interested in. This year, it's the M2 MBA.

Some like clothes, some like jewels. Others like fancy food, while still others like plays and concerts. Me, I like a desk full of gadgets to tinker with.

I wish more people on these forums understood that, and stopped telling others how misguided their priorities are. I wish we could be excited for each other, rather than having a judgy holier-than-thou attitude I've been seeing more and more on these forums. I wish we were allowed to enjoy our tech without fear of being mocked for not going with what others believe to be the "better" choice.

You do you, and I'll do the same.
If I had won that 1.2 billion this weekend, I would be Apple's best customer. But I know how you feel, I like tech too, but, unfortunately, I have to budget and spend on tech in a way that is long term practical. I always say it, if you have the money and can afford, why not?
 

Mr. Dee

macrumors 603
Dec 4, 2003
5,990
12,840
Jamaica
nothing wrong on updating your gear, I would dare to even say that the reason is deeper i your subconscious. You said it, the M1 was already a perfect computer, but it came in an outdated chasis, at this point the M2 is what the M1 should have been done, a major redesign. Without knowing it, you at some extent took a very smart decision, getting the latest SoC from apple in a new chasis that will now become the long lasting form factor of these computer.. for how long? 5-10 more years?, by the time the M4 is out, they will still be looking the same, part of the value will be held by the device if you chose to sell it.
Imagine if M2 Air chassis was the original design and the old generation was the new chassis? I don't see it the way you do, sure its a refresh, but the tapered design in my opinion will always be timeless. Apple could have thinned out the bezels over the years though and it would feel just as new as the new design. Considering, the M2 Air is based on the same design as the 14/16 which is a throw back to the Aluminum PowerBooks. So, its subjective calling it dated.
 
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EnigmaticZee

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May 31, 2022
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I don't have any practical reason for doing so - my M1 was perfectly fine.

I sold my M1 MBA, just ordered an M2 MBA, and I feel like a kid at Christmas.

Tech is a hobby of mine. I like the latest and greatest gadgets, and don't mind spending money on them. It's certainly not from any kind of 'need', but rather a 'want'. I know this, and there's nothing wrong with that mindset.

As some have called it, it may be a "fool's game" to some, but I could say the same for the way many others spend their time, energy, and money. That is something I would never do, however, as it is their life to live as they see fit - to each their own.

As I said, tech is not a collection of tools for me, it's a hobby. I don't want to just read about the latest gadgets and gizmos, I want to feel them, to use them, and to truly appreciate the design and engineering that goes into them. I can't afford all the tech I would like to try, but I can afford to take a financial hit every few years in order to sell my current device and buy the newest one I'm interested in. This year, it's the M2 MBA.

Some like clothes, some like jewels. Others like fancy food, while still others like plays and concerts. Me, I like a desk full of gadgets to tinker with.

I wish more people on these forums understood that, and stopped telling others how misguided their priorities are. I wish we could be excited for each other, rather than having a judgy holier-than-thou attitude I've been seeing more and more on these forums. I wish we were allowed to enjoy our tech without fear of being mocked for not going with what others believe to be the "better" choice.

You do you, and I'll do the same.

There is everything wrong with that mindset. Like how you justify that there is nothing with that mindset for some self assurance lol
 
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Abazigal

Contributor
Jul 18, 2011
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I don't have any practical reason for doing so - my M1 was perfectly fine.

I sold my M1 MBA, just ordered an M2 MBA, and I feel like a kid at Christmas.

Tech is a hobby of mine. I like the latest and greatest gadgets, and don't mind spending money on them. It's certainly not from any kind of 'need', but rather a 'want'. I know this, and there's nothing wrong with that mindset.

As some have called it, it may be a "fool's game" to some, but I could say the same for the way many others spend their time, energy, and money. That is something I would never do, however, as it is their life to live as they see fit - to each their own.

As I said, tech is not a collection of tools for me, it's a hobby. I don't want to just read about the latest gadgets and gizmos, I want to feel them, to use them, and to truly appreciate the design and engineering that goes into them. I can't afford all the tech I would like to try, but I can afford to take a financial hit every few years in order to sell my current device and buy the newest one I'm interested in. This year, it's the M2 MBA.

Some like clothes, some like jewels. Others like fancy food, while still others like plays and concerts. Me, I like a desk full of gadgets to tinker with.

I wish more people on these forums understood that, and stopped telling others how misguided their priorities are. I wish we could be excited for each other, rather than having a judgy holier-than-thou attitude I've been seeing more and more on these forums. I wish we were allowed to enjoy our tech without fear of being mocked for not going with what others believe to be the "better" choice.

You do you, and I'll do the same.

Life is short.

That’s really all that needs to be said.
 

PaladinGuy

macrumors 68000
Sep 22, 2014
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1,098
The question of whether it’s more eco-friendly to keep using and maintain an aging product as opposed to simply buying and using a much more eco-friendly and power-efficient product is an interesting one. I wonder about the difference in power draw of the 2012 Mac mini vs. today’s Apple silicon-powered models. Apple is using more eco-friendly manufacturing processes and materials as well (or so they say), so I often wonder if the evolution in products and processes is enough to justify a purchase of a newer device.

I think the manufacturing process is where most pollution occurs.
 
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jchap

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obviously i didn't NEED the m2 air, honestly the m1 would've lasted me comfortably for 3 more years.

but i WANTED one so i upgraded. everyone has things they spend money on (going out, drinking, clothes, etc...) it's just what you prioritize when it comes to leisure/enjoyment in life. mine also happens to be tech, so i agree with your sentiment 100%.
I get the feeling that most people replying to this thread prioritize tech gadgets (and Apple's offerings in particular) over most everything in life when it comes to leisure/enjoyment.

I could be wrong, though. 😎
 

fisherking

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Jul 16, 2010
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I get the feeling that most people replying to this thread prioritize tech gadgets (and Apple's offerings in particular) over most everything in life when it comes to leisure/enjoyment.

I could be wrong, though. 😎
'over most everything in life'? being into your tech devices doesn't have to mean forgetting human relationships, cars, swimming, partying... ie whatever else one is into. it's not a competition
 
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MajorFubar

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Oct 27, 2021
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Got to admit the shape of it couldn't be further down my priority list.
That said the wedge design no doubt has a cult of followers dismayed by the M2's 'paving slab' design.
I can already see the eBay listing now: "M1 Macbook Air! Piece of history! Last and best performing MBA in the iconic wedge design! Mint Boxed."

From the other perspective however, this form-factor is probably set in stone now for at least the next 5 years, so M2 Airs won't look old in two years' time.
 

Chateaunole-du-Pape

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Got to admit the shape of it couldn't be further down my priority list.
That said the wedge design no doubt has a cult of followers dismayed by the M2's 'paving slab' design.
I can already see the eBay listing now: "M1 Macbook Air! Piece of history! Last and best performing MBA in the iconic wedge design! Mint Boxed."

From the other perspective however, this form-factor is probably set in stone now for at least the next 5 years, so M2 Airs won't look old in two years' time.
I was in a meeting yesterday and realized one reason why I may have come to largely dislike the wedge design: A colleague who hasn't had his work laptop refreshed in ages (mine was swapped out over two years ago) had the old version of our corporate machine, an absolutely awful Toshiba that has a wedge design and silver color fairly reminiscent of the wedge Air.

Between the overall lousy performance of those Toshiba machines, and the mere fact that I associate them with work in general (particularly a period of my career that I didn't much enjoy), I think I have a subliminal distaste for the wedge design.
 
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luvmymbp

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Sep 23, 2017
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I don't have any practical reason for doing so - my M1 was perfectly fine.

I sold my M1 MBA, just ordered an M2 MBA, and I feel like a kid at Christmas.

Tech is a hobby of mine. I like the latest and greatest gadgets, and don't mind spending money on them. It's certainly not from any kind of 'need', but rather a 'want'. I know this, and there's nothing wrong with that mindset.

As some have called it, it may be a "fool's game" to some, but I could say the same for the way many others spend their time, energy, and money. That is something I would never do, however, as it is their life to live as they see fit - to each their own.

As I said, tech is not a collection of tools for me, it's a hobby. I don't want to just read about the latest gadgets and gizmos, I want to feel them, to use them, and to truly appreciate the design and engineering that goes into them. I can't afford all the tech I would like to try, but I can afford to take a financial hit every few years in order to sell my current device and buy the newest one I'm interested in. This year, it's the M2 MBA.

Some like clothes, some like jewels. Others like fancy food, while still others like plays and concerts. Me, I like a desk full of gadgets to tinker with.

I wish more people on these forums understood that, and stopped telling others how misguided their priorities are. I wish we could be excited for each other, rather than having a judgy holier-than-thou attitude I've been seeing more and more on these forums. I wish we were allowed to enjoy our tech without fear of being mocked for not going with what others believe to be the "better" choice.

You do you, and I'll do the same.
Yaass!!! Well Said!!!
 

DD88

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People should be able to buy whatever machine they want and not have people judge them for it, if you want the MBA M1 get it, if you want the new M2 go for it. If you want a Mb Pro with top specs, DO IT! The only people I judge are the ones who buy a new M2 and return it for fingerprints before they even use the machine. Now that is pathetic
 

m1maverick

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Nov 22, 2020
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People should be able to buy whatever machine they want and not have people judge them for it, if you want the MBA M1 get it, if you want the new M2 go for it. If you want a Mb Pro with top specs, DO IT! The only people I judge are the ones who buy a new M2 and return it for fingerprints before they even use the machine. Now that is pathetic
Why is it OK to judge people for returning the M2 MBA because of fingerprints but they can't be judged for something else?
 

DD88

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Why is it OK to judge people for returning the M2 MBA because of fingerprints but they can't be judged for something else?
Because people who return a brand new , fully functioning machine just because it attracts a few fingerprints on it are not of this world
 
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