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I sold my M1 MBA to buy an M2 MBA because I wanted one.
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I'm sorry, but my post still stands. You have to ask yourself why those comments trigger you. Personally, I wouldn't have bothered, but, then again, I don't buy the latest tech if I don't have to. I have a 2012 mini, which is soldiering on thanks to OpenCore Legacy Patcher. I can afford a new M1 mini, but I don't need it, although I do want one. Believe it or not, but that decision to abstain is mainly environmentally friendly on my part.
Fair enough. I'm not triggered, I simply believe people should be called-out on rude behaviour online, just as they would in person. When people read posts or comments calling out that behaviour, and see the number of people who share that sentiment, they may think twice before posting something deliberately condescending or rude.
If that's the case, you should quote them and call out that rude behavior directly in the respective threads when it is presented.
I know your intentions are good, and I actually agree with your perspective, but making an entire thread like this to defend your thought process when no one asked in the first place comes off as pretty weird and overly defensive.
im with you but id point out:
1. This post is not necessary - you dont need to justify what you do to anyone. If it sparks joy... do it.
2. I, too, change my tech with alarming regularity. I get the latest iPhone every year even though I mostly convince myself before the keynote that the rumours are not enough of a change... and then they really are true and its not much of a change... but something happens to me between keynote and pre-order where I simply MUST change again.
Now, back to 2.... I would give everyone a top tip..... Look after your tech. Keep it in good condition. Keep the original packaging... IF you do this, then the cost to upgrade is really rather minimal as you get top dollar for the last model and only have to find a small amount to get the new shiny model complete with a new warranty etc... well worth it in my opinion.
As a follow on I recently upgraded my 4th Gen iPad Pro 12.9" (non M1) to the 5th gen iPad Pro M1.... purely because stage manager is coming and I didn't want to feel left out.... but trading it in in practically new condition then buying its replacement only cost me about £200. Whats not to like.
If you’re planning to buy something and doing research to support or invalidate a potential purchase, I might say that you’re doing the right thing by checking the forums, reading the reviews and so on.
I would agree that it’s far too easy to get sucked up in all of this, though. Many active contributors here might be spending a lot more time here than they should, because they are avoiding other things in life or else because there are things in their “real lives“ that they haven’t resolved.
Apple surrounds its products with a great deal of hype and mystique, and this in turns generates a massive wave of interest in their upcoming products, centered around Apple’s fairly well established product cycle. A lot of people do tend to get caught up in that. It’s a cleverly engineered psychological ploy, and Apple does it better than so many other companies out there.
I would also agree that rather than focusing on having these things, we might think more about how we can enrich our lives through different experiences and learning new things. I’m not saying that we should just discard all of our technology and never buy anything again. What I am saying is that we might buy all the new things we want, but we could find at the end that all we did was spend money on new things, and we missed out on a lot of life as a result.
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I really really resisted the urge to get the M2 MBA as I was happy with my M1 MBA... but I got one delivered today 
so will be selling my M1 MBA.
so will be selling my M1 MBA.
Good points. There aren't too many things that are worse than continually buying stuff you don’t need, though. Making and eating and buying way more than we really need is one of the root causes of our current global environmental crisis.
While I totally agree consumerism is destroying the planet and isn't addressing the underlying miserable mental status of humanity at large, the OP enjoys tech for the sake of enjoyment, and I see nothing overtly wrong with that. I also love tech, not because I am looking to fill a void. I just enjoy using tech. I don't feel attached to any of my tech items, however, as I know they are just temporary tools that can be replaced.
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While I agree with your points about inner happiness as it relates to material items I don't think limiting consumption is the answer to our environmental problem. Over population yes, buying a Macbook for a temporary dopamine rush, nope.
Just enjoy it while you can, the planet will be fine, we're going away, not the planet. Nice knowing y'all.
The question of whether it’s more eco-friendly to keep using and maintain an aging product as opposed to simply buying and using a much more eco-friendly and power-efficient product is an interesting one. I wonder about the difference in power draw of the 2012 Mac mini vs. today’s Apple silicon-powered models. Apple is using more eco-friendly manufacturing processes and materials as well (or so they say), so I often wonder if the evolution in products and processes is enough to justify a purchase of a newer device.
Whether humanity “goes away” depends solely on whether they can responsibly manage the resources at their disposal, I feel. No, a single MacBook purchase isn’t going to tip the scales. But we can use that same justification with anything, and in the end we have 10 million MacBooks that all required manufacturing resources and materials to produce. Even curbing our tendencies halfway would likely produce very tangible results.
Bit of a troll thread if we're being brutally honest.
I've not seen any post taking the ---- out of someone for upgrading from an M1 to an M2.
Maybe I missed it?
I've seen a few threads asking if it's financially worthwhile, and the answer is a definite no unless you have very specialised needs.
But that doesn't mean I, nor anyone else, thinks you should be banished to hell for doing it.
EDIT: Besides which, assuming you traded/sold your M1, you create a healthy market of barely-used nearly-new tech for proletariat bottom-feeders like me to buy cheap.
I've not seen any post taking the ---- out of someone for upgrading from an M1 to an M2.
Maybe I missed it?
I've seen a few threads asking if it's financially worthwhile, and the answer is a definite no unless you have very specialised needs.
But that doesn't mean I, nor anyone else, thinks you should be banished to hell for doing it.
EDIT: Besides which, assuming you traded/sold your M1, you create a healthy market of barely-used nearly-new tech for proletariat bottom-feeders like me to buy cheap.
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I'm in the same boat - I update constantly. It has been a "tradition" for me to upgrade my phone every year since the original iPhone. I refresh my laptop and iPad less frequently and only when there is a substantial performance gain or a noticeable design refresh. I did so with the M1 MBA and the M1 iPad Pro. Now, I am also tempted to get the new M2 MBA, even though my M1 MBA is, like some of you said, the best laptop I have ever used. However, the value logic has kicked in for me this year. The price increase for base model + slower SSD has given me pause. And upgrading the AIR specs just makes the base 14" MBP a better value on all fronts. So I will try to hold off.
I do feel guilt for the over consumption aspect of my hobby=habit=addiction with refreshing my technology. At minimum, I contribute to the e-waste problem. Multiply my habit by hundreds of millions of others that do the same, and we can assume the results. I always resell to fund this behaviour, or hand down my gear to my wife or family. So, i guess I can tell myself that I'm recycling but I still know that the person that gets my gear or others downstream, is just throwing out their old gear which ends up in some landfill. Apple has mastered the phsycological aspect of hyping their products. Combine this with all the reviewers/YouTube unboxing videos, and it's just kindling on the overconsumption dumpster fire. Like I said, I admit, I am nurturing the fire with my behaviour, but also starting to feel guilty about it as new gadgets bring me less joy than they used to.
I do feel guilt for the over consumption aspect of my hobby=habit=addiction with refreshing my technology. At minimum, I contribute to the e-waste problem. Multiply my habit by hundreds of millions of others that do the same, and we can assume the results. I always resell to fund this behaviour, or hand down my gear to my wife or family. So, i guess I can tell myself that I'm recycling but I still know that the person that gets my gear or others downstream, is just throwing out their old gear which ends up in some landfill. Apple has mastered the phsycological aspect of hyping their products. Combine this with all the reviewers/YouTube unboxing videos, and it's just kindling on the overconsumption dumpster fire. Like I said, I admit, I am nurturing the fire with my behaviour, but also starting to feel guilty about it as new gadgets bring me less joy than they used to.
Apple's own statistics are found here. The M1 is much more power efficient than my old mini.
When I get bit by the upgrade bug and want to upgrade my current laptop/phone I try to remember that these devices are simply tools. When the tool you use does not perform the function that you need it to do the replacing it is the best course of action. There is nothing wrong with wanting the new thing but ask yourself if the extra .3 inches of screen, slightly brighter display, faster processor, etc.. will fundamentally change how you use the device. If it does improve your experience then great! Have no regrets and enjoy your purchase! If not then saving your cash and waiting to upgrade will give you a better experience when there are more significant changes to the device. On a personal note the new M2 Air would have been a day one purchase for me if it included mini-led even at 60hz because screen quality is the most important factor for me. I do really love the new design but will hold onto my M1 Air until Apple eventually brings that screen tech to the lower models.
Well said...shiny new toys are fun!
I have different cycles I generally upgrade on, usually based on having real compelling new features. Iteration takes a few years before it collectively makes a difference for me, but for others, it's bragging rights which is cool. If we're honest, this is the conundrum facing companies - the tech is now just so good, and so few people really push it, that the 'moore's law of phones' for example, is slowing down. Internet service is similar - I've got 500/40. Do I need 1000/1000? No. Do I want it? Yes. DOCSIS 4.0 is cool tech.
iPhone - every 2 or 3 (early one for 5g, expect early one for USB-C)
iPad - every 2 or 3 (early one for 5g, early one for first pro)
Mac - every 1 or 2 (went longer waiting for M1, waiting to see if it's an M2 or M3 upgrade cycle this time)
AppleTV - Only compelling features (next ones are 8k driven)
Airpods - still running Gen 1 that work fine. Next upgrade will be USB-C driven.
Watch - few enough that don't have a regular cadence (just don't see compelling features at all...largely driven by battery life)
Television - Only for 8K
Stereo Amp - Now that all are HDMI, next will be for 8k
Speakers - Basically never unless they fail
MacOS, iOS - gold masters (yeah, I live dangerously by early adopting new OS's)
monitors - now that all are 4k/5k, not until 8k becomes real
The wild card for me is going to be the AR/VR system. I don't see a use case, but then again, I didn't see one for the iPad either. But...cool tech? Hell yeah.
As you said, that's my list, for me, based on my priorities and ability to invest. Others have different ones, more power to them!
The only thing that I don't agree with is when folks hack around limitations/restrictions/supported versions of software and hardware and then expect either Apple or 3rd party vendors to support their choice to run on an outdated, unsupported configuration. If they do that, fine, but don't expect support or whine when you don't get it. That's the risk you take by doing something outside the sandbox.
Edit to add: I do laugh when Apple introduces a 'Magical' 0.01Ghz upgrade and expects it to be a compelling upgrade feature.
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Apple has you on the “Mug“ board at Apple HQ and they are literally pulling your pants down further with each machine launch .
Nah all jokes aside just buy what you want , as long as you enjoy it that’s all that matters. I’ll lose sympathy if you send it back because of fingerprints though
Nah all jokes aside just buy what you want , as long as you enjoy it that’s all that matters. I’ll lose sympathy if you send it back because of fingerprints though
I honestly think the opposite, I think they are both great looking but something about the M1 catches my eyes every time plus there isn’t a notch
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the notch? it will be there on all current & future macs (until apple sorts it out... and they will. eventually).
meanwhile, there are numerous ways to deal with it (including apps like forehead, or topnotch). and more screen=more screen...
I actually like the thicker bezels of the m1 air as well , there is an app called forehead? 🤣
these apps put a black bar across the menu bar (and some have other features as well). apple has a built-in option as well.
honestly, tho... hard to imagine that anyone would prefer more bezel to less bezel. 🤯 but that's what makes all of this interesting; our different ways of seeing things 👍
You could just as easily donate to a school, stay on your environmental horse, help education, and get a more recent machine, become more productive and save the planet.