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I want to have some bezel, but what bothers me more is the missing home button. It's such a useful thing. Easier to use with one hand. It's why I went with the 8 Plus instead of the X.
 
This is just not true. I have an 8 plus and my wife has an x. If prices were exactly the same, my guess is 75% of the people who bought an 8 would have purchased an X. Not saying you specifically, but there is a lot of sour grapes and envy on here. People ripping the X apart and then saying how great their 6s/7/8 are. Hell, even the 8 plus is a lesser phone than the X, but I needed the larger size. To claim it's better than the X is laughable.

"Never miss what you never had" is real on here LOL

Envy? I've just bought the 8 Plus today. If I can afford that one I could also afford the X. Truth is, the X design is ugly... There are bezel-less phones out there which are much more aesthetically pleasant even though I'm not into that disgusting trend.
 
What about the 8 specifically “blows the doors off of the X?”

It costs less, but as far as advantages go, that’s about it. Both are great phones, but the X is far better device.

Do I miss the bezels and button? Absolutely not.

Long term the 8 may hold up better because it's got an identical processor as the X but driving a much lower resolution display.
 
Long term the 8 may hold up better because it's got an identical processor as the X but driving a much lower resolution display.
That’s possible. Maybe the 8 is the next SE . Still, the 8 only has 2GB of RAM. That’ll catch up with it and slow it down eventually.

Also, Apple will likely begin primarily designing iOS around the buttonless interface in the next product cycle, making the button a redundant function.
It’s just not a good time to buy an aging design, and for the high price of the 8 and 8+, it seems especially unwise. Might as well get the 7 and save some money, right?

The release of the 8 and 8+ was a strange marketing decision. What was the point? For many 8 and 8+ owners, buyer’s remorse hasn’t kicked in yet. It will as soon as Apple drops the bezel/button for good-probably this fall.
 
That’s possible. Maybe the 8 is the next SE . Still, the 8 only has 2GB of RAM. That’ll catch up with it and slow it down eventually.

Also, Apple will likely begin primarily designing iOS around the buttonless interface in the next product cycle, making the button a redundant function.
It’s just not a good time to buy an aging design, and for the high price of the 8 and 8+, it seems especially unwise. Might as well get the 7 and save some money, right?

The release of the 8 and 8+ was a strange marketing decision. What was the point? For many 8 and 8+ owners, buyer’s remorse hasn’t kicked in yet. It will as soon as Apple drops the bezel/button for good-probably this fall.

iOS will surely get built around the buttonless design, but they will push a version for home button phones and a version for non home button phones, so it's not like the 8 and older owners are going to have an OS that isn't built for their phone. I agree on the 2 gigs of RAM though, eventually that may show through and it's probably a gamble between 2 gigs and the lower res screen or the high res screen with the same processor as the 8 being the one to get outdated first.

The money you save on the 7 just gets washed out on the back end when you sell it or become forced to upgrade a year earlier as support is dropped. Plus to comp a 64 gig 8 ($699) I'd have to get a 128 gig 7 ($649) which has more space than I need (but can't do with a 32 gig 7, need 64) so then it's only a $50 delta so the 8 is the no brainer, even if you ignore that the 8 is a great incremental update if for no other reason than wireless charging.

To each their own, but personally I just never see the value in buying the one year old phone to save a little money. Personally I'm glad they released the 8 as it will always feel like the solid product it is that was never improved upon, being the last of the generation.
 
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The release of the 8 and 8+ was a strange marketing decision. What was the point? For many 8 and 8+ owners, buyer’s remorse hasn’t kicked in yet. It will as soon as Apple drops the bezel/button for good-probably this fall.

If they ever drop it for good it won’t be that soon. Most people didn’t upgrade to the 8 let alone the X due to their price. I don’t think Apple will turn their back on certainly more than 50% of their customers worldwide. The home button is here to stay for at least 4 to 5 more years and why does it have to be dropped? They might want to keep a model or two that has it or what is it that tells you otherwise? I really wish I could understand all the “hate” on the home button and bezels.
 
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If they ever drop it for good it won’t be that soon. Most people didn’t upgrade to the 8 let alone the X due to their price. I don’t think Apple will turn their back on certainly more than 50% of their customers worldwide. The home button is here to stay for at least 4 to 5 more years and why does it have to be dropped? They might want to keep a model or two that has it or what is it that tells you otherwise? I really wish I could understand all the “hate” on the home button and bezels.
Perhaps, but if the home button is still an iPhone feature in 5 years, that would surprise me. In years past, I think Apple tried to avoid a cluttered product lineup, in order to streamline their offerings. It seems to me that iOS becomes more fragmented every year-which leads to a less intuitive and bloated OS.

iOS 11 is a bit unwieldy and scattered as it is; I know a few will agree with that. Between iPads(Pro and vanilla), button iPhones, and bezel-less iPhones, this could only get more pronounced. Windows 10 is a very different OS, but it clearly suffered from trying to span too many hardware configurations.

Hopefully that’d never happen to iOS, but stranger things have happened. There’s something to be said for continuity between devices. Too many options, and that becomes a big challenge. Android also comes to mind.

It feels like an equal or greater portion of the “hate” is directed towards the X by users of the previous phones. I wouldn’t claim to understand that either, but it’s a divided user base that wasn’t here before we lost the button. I suppose we all have a tendency to defend our particular choice.

But then again, folks will debate about anything and everything. That’s what these forums are for .
 
I just love the old design with the forehead and the chin because it makes my edge-to-edge iPhone X that more special.
Lol, fanning the flames now are we ;-)

I’ve loved using all generations of iPhones, but a change was in order. After thousands of hours navigating iOS with the button and bezel, the X feels like a fresh take...and it’s fun to use. Plus the OLED display is freaking amazing. No more washed out greys where there should be blacks. Apple should’ve switched over to OLED years ago.

That being said, I’ve loved using every one of them and can understand the sentimentality behind sticking with what you already know.
 
This is just not true. I have an 8 plus and my wife has an x. If prices were exactly the same, my guess is 75% of the people who bought an 8 would have purchased an X. Not saying you specifically, but there is a lot of sour grapes and envy on here. People ripping the X apart and then saying how great their 6s/7/8 are. Hell, even the 8 plus is a lesser phone than the X, but I needed the larger size. To claim it's better than the X is laughable.

"Never miss what you never had" is real on here LOL


I had the X from launch until January.. not for me yet. I liked it yes, but I like the 8 more.

I won’t say the X is a bad phone because it’s not. I won’t say the 8 blows the doors off the X because it doesn’t. I will say I like the 8 more then the X

Not envy at all here
 
Yes, I prefer the look of the bezels and touch ID home button. So much so, that I've been thinking about buying an SE before they have the chance to screw that up. But my 6 keeps right on working fine, so I probably won't need to replace it until it's too late.

I'm an old fogey, I suppose, but I've never seen the need for a change just for the sake of change. But then I liked skeuomorphism, so my opinions matter not to those at Apple who decide these things.
 
The home button is here to stay for at least 4 to 5 more years and why does it have to be dropped? They might want to keep a model or two that has it or what is it that tells you otherwise? I really wish I could understand all the “hate” on the home button and bezels.

Because Apple is choosing to drop the home button On newer model iPhones and likely iPads as well. You saying the home button is here to stay for at least 4 to 5 more years isn’t necessarily true in the sense that they will keep manufacturing devices with the home button, its just that a device like the iPhone 8 will have iOS support 4 to 4 years. That’s the difference. I don’t have any distain for the home button and bezels, but it’s been said multiple times by Apple that Face ID is their future, which negates the home button altogether, unless they reiterate A refreshed iPhone SE 2.
 
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Coming from Android the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are very refreshing and refined. I’ve always had phones with a home button and all day battery life, so I like to keep that when I transition over. Coming from Huawei, which has its finger print sensor at the back, it is a superior unlocking technique compared to both touchID (as it’s a much more natural had gesture, for me anyways) and faceID, as I can have it unlocked before it even comes out of my pocket.

As for bezels, I actually like to have a bit of bezel, as it’s easier to navigate when used in landscape mode. I am not offended by the bezel, but I can see where one would see it as an eye sore if they had the prior iPhone 6 and 7 as well, gets a bit boring I guess.

The price difference between the 8 and X is just enough to not sway potential one way or another based on the price alone I would imagine, but enough to make you stop and ponder your decision.

For me, I wanted the button, battery life, and being a landscape user, the iPhone 8 is a natural choice.
 
I like the Touch ID because I’m the only one that can unlock my phone since we don’t share finger prints
 
From a functional perspective, the very notion of having my face scanned each time I want to open the phone doesn't seem very progressive to me. So much easier to use Touch ID. Sometimes what is touted as "progress" is not necessarily a good thing.

Just a random thought in your mind or do you have any technical reasoning to back this up?
 
I don’t mind the bezel, and I like Touch ID. Eventually I’ll have to use Face ID, and I might like that more once I get use to it.
 
Love my 8+ but had I not been going on holiday for a month I would have waited for the X.
My 6s was on its last legs and I wanted something with a more reliable battery.
 
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