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Other I still love the big bezel/Touch ID design....anyone else?

lyceumHQ said:
I always buy my phones outright.

I saved enough for the X. Went to the store. Left with an 8. Not even an 8 plus.

I balked at spending 1k on a phone. And when I saw the X there was nothing about it that made it worth the £300 over the 8 for me. So instead I got the 8 and AppleCare.

Love the 8.
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“there was nothing about it that made it worth the £300 over the 8 for me” - you see this is exactly what most consumers think. The face recognition technology alone is worth that money, the folded AMOLED screen is cherry on top but average consumers just don’t care about anything else other than look and then the total price. Even though most people buy the phones on some sort of contract.
 
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akash.nu said:
“there was nothing about it that made it worth the £300 over the 8 for me” - you see this is exactly what most consumers think. The face recognition technology alone is worth that money, the folded AMOLED screen is cherry on top but average consumers just don’t care about anything else other than look and then the total price. Even though most people buy the phones on some sort of contract.
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No. The Face recognition technology alone is worth that money to YOU.

Why is it some people think that because something is worth the money to them it’s worth it to everybody else.

I repeat. There is nothing the iPhone X has that makes it worth £300 more than the 8 to me.

I’ve had iPhones for ten years. Always buy outright. Had the X blown me away I’d have bought one. It didn’t. I’ve not been blown away by a phone since the 4.
 
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Yep I still think it’s a good design, even if the 8 series have become too overpriced for what they are really offering. I’m not entirely convinced by the X design but that’s the future so I will have to think it over. If the second gen comes in considerably cheaper I might be tempted to give it a go.
 
lyceumHQ said:
No. The Face recognition technology alone is worth that money to YOU.

Why is it some people think that because something is worth the money to them it’s worth it to everybody else.

I repeat. There is nothing the iPhone X has that makes it worth £300 more than the 8 to me.

I’ve had iPhones for ten years. Always buy outright. Had the X blown me away I’d have bought one. It didn’t. I’ve not been blown away by a phone since the 4.
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I think you got the wrong end of the stick. I didn’t buy an iPhone X either but that’s not to say the tech is not worth the money.

Although, I guess “worth” is a subjective thing anyway.
 
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akash.nu said:
I think you got the wrong end of the stick. I didn’t buy an iPhone X either but that’s not to say the tech is not worth the money.

Although, I guess “worth” is a subjective thing anyway.
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Then my apologies.

Worth is subjective. Plenty of things worth it to some and not others.
 
No nostaligia here.

Give me under screen Touch ID, on a full screen iPhone so no notch and ideally no bezels or, if so, very thin and that'll do me thanks Apple.
 
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Relentless Power said:
Coming from someone who appreciates the iPhone X and iPhone 8, I still think bezels serve their purpose. They never bothered me to begin with and I certainly don’t bother me now, even after the iPhone X launch. Especially given when you hold the 5.5 iPhone Plus, I feel the bezels help you achieve a stronger grip in your hand with one handed use. I See advantages both to the iPhone 8 and iPhone X.
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Agreed. When using my friend's X, I noticed it was quite a strange feeling trying to hold and use it, especially with one hand. I also have very small hands, likely due to my height; my hands are about the size of the average woman, and I've even had girlfriends who dwarfed my hands with theirs. I think a lot of people overlook some of these very important aspects. Just because it doesn't apply to them, it doesn't mean it's an irrelevant thing.

In fact, I'm reminded of a scene from the old show House MD, where Dr Taub explains a proper redesign of a surgeon's tool because the tool was designed for hands larger than the typical surgeon (or something close to that). This kind of stuff is often overlooked in the real world too ;)

lyceumHQ said:
I always buy my phones outright.

I saved enough for the X. Went to the store. Left with an 8. Not even an 8 plus.

I balked at spending 1k on a phone. And when I saw the X there was nothing about it that made it worth the £300 over the 8 for me. So instead I got the 8 and AppleCare.

Love the 8.
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As a person who loves function over form, I'm very glad to hear this! Every time I hear someone choosing a "lesser" product due to a lack of genuine need for the top tier alternative, I get a little tingle down there lol. Hope you continue enjoying that new phone, mate.

MacDevil7334 said:
I don't love the bezels. But, I also don't hate them or obsess over them the way some people on this forum have for the last 2-3 years. I have the X and it's a great phone. But, I've realized the edge to edge screen doesn't really add that much to the overall experience. I have found that I can only focus my eyes on roughly 1/2 of the screen area at a time when reading text at a normal distance. So having a taller screen doesn't add much. The bezel-less screen would seem to be great for watching movies. Unfortunately, the screen is now no longer 16:9, so the extra screen real estate is either wasted or the top and bottom of the picture gets cut off to make the image fill the whole screen. Neither is ideal. Also, there are some other aspects of the edge to edge design that are actually worse. I have encountered quite a few more unintended touches on the screen than I have with past iPhones, especially when using the X in landscape mode. And having the control center stuck up in the top right corner is much less convenient than swiping up from the bottom, especially for a lefty like myself.

I'm not saying the iPhone X design is bad. Clearly, edge to edge phones are the future. However, I am considering downsizing to an SE 2 depending on the specs (and if one is ever announced at all). If I do, I will have a much harder time giving up the OLED aspect of the screen on the X than the edge to edge design.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. And a major +1 from me with the accidental touches on the screen. I noticed that was a big problem when I was using the demo phones. I thought to myself, "If I get this one, I'm really going to have to figure something out. My hands are too damn small to avoid this crap, and I often use my phone with one hand." I'm also quite relieved I opted for the 8 Plus, now, after reading your perspective. The lack of the 16:9 ratio, combined with the notch in the screen... that would ruin my hours of YouTube binge watching when I can't sleep. I was having a hard time accepting that notch when using the demo phones as it was. And 100% agreed with the visual focus, as well as the control center part. Southpaws will likely desire an option in later iOS updates to make the pull downs "left handed," I'm sure. But even this right handed user couldn't stand that relocation. I prefer swiping up, as it allows me to use the phone with either hand and still access the control center.
 
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akash.nu said:
“there was nothing about it that made it worth the £300 over the 8 for me” - you see this is exactly what most consumers think. The face recognition technology alone is worth that money, the folded AMOLED screen is cherry on top but average consumers just don’t care about anything else other than look and then the total price. Even though most people buy the phones on some sort of contract.
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I would disagree from my own perspective and don’t think the technology is worth more. £700 is already a lot of money for a smartphone and nothing the X had excited me enough to buy it, despite having the funds.

I agree on the ‘most consumers’ part. Most people I know said ‘how much??!!’ when the X came out. The price alone killed off interest I think and Apple are apparently about to see a huge decline in their second quarter. It’s too niche to become the mainstream flagship and they need to work on its appeal with the price being the first issue on the list.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
I would disagree from my own perspective and don’t think the technology is worth more. £700 is already a lot of money for a smartphone and nothing the X had excited me enough to buy it, despite having the funds.

I agree on the ‘most consumers’ part. Most people I know said ‘how much??!!’ when the X came out. The price alone killed off interest I think and Apple are apparently about to see a huge decline in their second quarter. It’s too niche to become the mainstream flagship and they need to work on its appeal with the price being the first issue on the list.
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Yeah price wise people are put off easily.

My work mate just bought the pixel 2 XL and got it for £629 and even somebody said how much to that when really thats really cheap in comparison.
 
The Game 161 said:
Yeah price wise people are put off easily.

My work mate just bought the pixel 2 XL and got it for £629 and even somebody said how much to that when really thats really cheap in comparison.
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I’ve lost count of the amount of times friends and colleagues have complained at how expensive phones have got. I’d say 95% of the people I know have older iPhones and will more than likely keep them beyond their contracts. The rest use Android. I think you’ve either got to be a diehard fan or just have money to burn to get an X right now. The contract prices are so expensive it just forces the consumer to really question what they are getting. I just hope Apple get the hint going forward.
 
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I am not fussed about the bezels, never have been. Just as the X users say the notch disappears after you use it a bit, so does the bezels. When I am looking at my iPhone I am focusing on what is on the screen, not what surrounds it.
 
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Ladybug said:
I am not fussed about the bezels, never have been. Just as the X users say the notch disappears after you use it a bit, so does the bezels. When I am looking at my iPhone I am focusing on what is on the screen, not what surrounds it.
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I share your thoughts on this. Reference the bezels, I Have opted for the white bezel in the past for other iPhone models and I never found it distracting like some do. As you mentioned, I just focus the contents on the screen, and the contrast of the white bezel doesn’t take away from my focus of what I’m looking at.
 
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I prefer the design and interface of the X, but I’m not sure it’s a good idea for Apple to ditch the home button on all models. The home button is such an iconic design feature, and it made the iPhone feel inviting and uncomplicated for people who don’t adapt well to new technology. I have an elderly family member who barely knows her way around her iPhone, but she knows that she can always return to the main screen with the home button. From there she knows how to get to the essentials like phone, messages, camera, calendar, and photos. Gestures are not easy for her to perform consistently, and most gestures she invokes are accidental. She loves the home button.

Part of me thinks Apple will drop the Home button and TouchID for future devices, but only Apple and time will tell. Maybe they will drop the home button for high-end models and brand future home button models as “iPhone” and the home-buttonless models as “iPhone Pro.”
 
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For a device you hold and interact with I like the buffer the bezels provide. Last year I went through a few phones 6s, Galaxy S8+, 8, 8+ and a Pixel 2 XL which I'm still using. After getting use to the S8+, sure going back to the design of the 8 wasn't as aesthetically pleasing but I found the usability with my small hands better even with the 8+. When one handing the device I have the bottom corner dug into my palm and the chin prevents inputs from my palm. Now currently with the Pixel I get accidental inputs along the edge when I'm just gripping it, and time to time when interacting with something on the opposite side of the screen the base of my thumb/palm which hits a navigation button on the bottom, scrolling me to the top and losing my place which has been pretty annoying.

As for the home button, when the keynote for the 8 and X was about to go live, I was set on preordering the X but wasn't a fan of the UX design after losing the button. While trivial to some, I felt it was slower to get some navigation things done. Also having the same CPU, primary camera weighed on the decision. Since then I have played with the X a bit and worked out how to navigate a bit faster, for example swiping up and to the side vs swipe up a hold.

I was thinking of getting the refresh of the X towards the end of the year, though still find it slightly too big, and coming to the conclusion that I personally don't benefit from larger screen phones I'm considering down sizing to the SE 2 (if it will come to exist, if not even thinking of going to the current SE).
 
Well I bought the iPhone 8, and although it was a big improvement over my 6S I returned it as to me it didn’t feel different enough.

But 11.3 has wrecked my battery life even though it reports my 6S one as fine so I need to get a new phone at some point and I have the money from my 8 kicking around so...
 
sean000 said:
Part of me thinks Apple will drop the Home button and TouchID for future devices, but only Apple and time will tell. Maybe they will drop the home button for high-end models and brand future home button models as “iPhone” and the home-buttonless models as “iPhone Pro.”
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The 6.1 LCD is supposed to be called just iPhone so I don’t think there will be any home button models going forward apart perhaps from an SE. Perhaps they could extend the SE into a line in its own right offering 4 and 4.7 inch classic designs?
 
I see where the OP is coming from. The bezels and home button are starting to look a bit dated but they harken back to classic Apple design -- friendly, clean, welcoming. The evolution to a no-bezel front clearly makes sense, and Apple has implemented the new gestures quite well, but that design inherently is less iconic. I don't think there's anything wrong with looking back fondly at the past, even as we move forward. I sometimes admire my early generation iPods because of their incredible design. It doesn't mean I want to use one on a daily basis, just that I appreciate the design achievement they represented.

Also, the iPhone X's notch will never have that iconic quality. Even if you accept the compromise that Apple made, and even if you like the phone otherwise, it's a compromise that is staring you in the face with the X. Apple needs to find a better solution as soon as it can.
 
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Always buy my phones/technology outright. I prefer the 'old' design as 3 out of the 3 new aesthetics are in my opinion worse with the X design:
1. Touch ID or Face ID.... I'd take Touch ID.
2. Notch or No Notch..... Notching out of video, or bars on the screen.
3. Glass back or aluminium back..... Aluminium.

Looks like I'll be sticking with my 7 plus for a few years!!
 
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