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Other I still love the big bezel/Touch ID design....anyone else?

thizisweird said:
Why would I leave apps open when I'm not using them? What's the point of constantly draining the battery, and keeping your apps open when you don't need them open to begin with? If you're using certain apps constantly, and launching them constantly interrupts your workflow, then I can understand leaving them open. But if I am going to take a picture (which I might do every few days), why would I leave the camera app open 24/7 just because nothing is "misbehaving?" There's no point in leaving Instagram open 24/7... I really only use it to pass the time while waiting for an appointment, so why leave it open all the time? I can wait 4 seconds for it to launch.
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That's not how it works on iOS. iOS has very aggressive power management for apps not in the foreground. Also, most apps in the history aren't even really in memory any more, only that last few that fit are--you'll notice this because if you try to swap to them quickly, they reload instead. So you're "closing" apps that aren't even open in the first place. I just bought a new iPhone two days ago, and there are even apps listed in that history that I've never opened on this phone.

Why iPhone owners should not swipe up to close apps for purposes of battery life:
https://daringfireball.net/2017/07/you_should_not_force_quit_apps
 
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Raist3001 said:
I believe that is a misconception. iDevices pause the app in the background. It actually takes more battery to relaunch the app then to resume the app. Battery drain comes from having background apps active. I turn all this off except where needed like for email and GPS.
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My partner is an ‘app closer’ too. And similar to as you say, I’m pretty sure that Craig F has gone on record to say that there is no need to close apps.

TBH I think that the biggest battery drain now is the amount of time that we spend on our devices!

I’d be willing to bet that we’re all spending twice the time that we did in the era of the 4 and 4s.

We’re the problem!
 
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Unless serious improvements are made with Face ID, I’ll likely never buy another iPad or iPhone that doesn’t have Touch ID.

Face ID is a real downgrade IMO and ultimately has me regretting my iPhone X purchase. Won’t make that mistake again.

I love the look of the bezel-less iPhone X. But unfortunately it’s hindered a function that I took for granted with Touch ID.
 
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iPhone X is the perfect device.

Would I go back to the big bezels and button? Hell no.

I find it incredible and impossible to believe anyone truly does prefer the big bezels, physical button and Touch ID over what iPhone X offers.
 
dumastudetto said:
iPhone X is the perfect device.

Would I go back to the big bezels and button? Hell no.

I find it incredible and impossible to believe anyone truly does prefer the big bezels, physical button and Touch ID over what iPhone X offers.
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I’m not in the camp that dismisses the iPhone X outright, but I don’t have a problem with the bezel-heavy design of 6/7/8 models - it’s still by an overwhelming distance the most popular iPhone design in terms of number of current users - or the touchID. Both work perfectly well for me and what the X offers isn’t enough to make me want to change. I’m not saying I wouldn’t prefer it if I did upgrade, i’m just in no hurry to do so.
 
Raist3001 said:
I believe that is a misconception. iDevices pause the app in the background. It actually takes more battery to relaunch the app then to resume the app. Battery drain comes from having background apps active. I turn all this off except where needed like for email and GPS.
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ActionableMango said:
That's not how it works on iOS. iOS has very aggressive power management for apps not in the foreground. Also, most apps in the history aren't even really in memory any more, only that last few that fit are--you'll notice this because if you try to swap to them quickly, they reload instead. So you're "closing" apps that aren't even open in the first place. I just bought a new iPhone two days ago, and there are even apps listed in that history that I've never opened on this phone.

Why iPhone owners should not swipe up to close apps for purposes of battery life:
https://daringfireball.net/2017/07/you_should_not_force_quit_apps
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Sounds to me like this should be explained to the customers when setting up the phone. As you guys can probably tell, my background with non-iOS devices is why I have been doing so. I did own the first, second, and fourth gen iPod Touch and never heard anything about this; so this makes me wonder exactly when this became the norm, and I gotta know why I never heard anything like this before. That's a bit infuriating for me, actually. It's been that long, and not one of my nerd friends cared to say anything. Eh, you learn something new every day!

Much thanks, Mango, for that link. Definitely have some reading to do now. I'll try to change my habits and see if there's any kind of change. Personally, I do find it super annoying to have all those apps in the multitasking switcher. I don't like seeing clutter. If there's something there that I don't have a use for, I don't see why I should have to put up with it constantly reminding me that it was used. The next few weeks of using my phone will be very interesting. Thanks for the info, guys.
 
dumastudetto said:
iPhone X is the perfect device.

Would I go back to the big bezels and button? Hell no.

I find it incredible and impossible to believe anyone truly does prefer the big bezels, physical button and Touch ID over what iPhone X offers.
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Its certainly not impossible, because there are many members who would disagree with you. I agree the X is a huge step forward from the previous models. That said, where you will find some will disagree is Touch ID is still very relevant with being a staple in biometric security and ease of use. Face ID will evolve and refine, but I see Touch ID as something that “Just worked”, where it exceeded most expectations. Face ID is the next step forward, but its certainly in need of improvements in certain areas.

As for the bezels, they served their purpose for adjusting your grip without inadvertently touching the display.
 
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thizisweird said:
never heard anything about this; so this makes me wonder exactly when this became the norm
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I remember back in the day that there wasn't a way to manually close iOS apps, so when people complained they wanted to manually close apps to save battery life, that's when Steve Jobs revealed that the UI didn't provide a way to do this because it was unnecessary. Apple did later add a way to do this (iOS3), but they did it so we could close misbehaving apps, not to save battery. So for sure automatic application suspension existed prior to iOS3.

I'd speculate that it was always there from the beginning, or at the very least in iOS2 which was the first iOS to support third party apps.
 
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ActionableMango said:
I remember back in the day that there wasn't a way to manually close iOS apps, so when people complained they wanted to manually close apps to save battery life, that's when Steve Jobs revealed that the UI didn't provide a way to do this because it was unnecessary. Apple did later add a way to do this (iOS3), but they did it so we could close misbehaving apps, not to save battery. So for sure automatic application suspension existed prior to iOS3.

I'd speculate that it was always there from the beginning, or at the very least in iOS2 which was the first iOS to support third party apps.
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Looks like I’m learning a lot today. Thank you! This habit is hard to quit lol.

I still prefer the button though
 
dumastudetto said:
iPhone X is the perfect device.

Would I go back to the big bezels and button? Hell no.

I find it incredible and impossible to believe anyone truly does prefer the big bezels, physical button and Touch ID over what iPhone X offers.
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After about 5 days with an 8 Plus, having sold my X, I’m with you on the top bezel. I miss the full display at the top of the device.

But Face ID was such a hindrance and drag on my user experience that I am “in love” with the bottom bezel and the Touch ID button.
 
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I caved, I sold my Pixel 2 XL yesterday and was planning on getting a cheap SE to tie me over till September. Spent the day playing around with a mates X, and ended up getting an unused X 256gb for A$1300.

Finally being able to register my own face to FaceID, my original thought that I would have to raise my phone higher than normal to unlock was proven wrong. As I'm walking around if I pull it out my pocket to do something, it can read my face where I normally hold it low.

I'm one of those that unnecessarily closes apps, which I find slower on the X and also when unlocking having to swipe up I find slower. But I guess I'll get use to it. Loving the smaller size!

In terms of the bezel, when I grip it and my fingers curl around the edges, there is enough bezel there that it doesn't cover the screen unlike when I was using a Galaxy S8+. One other reason I got rid of the pixel was the amount of accidental touches along the side, was doing my head in.
 
The mantra of "never force quit apps that are in the background via the app switcher" really shouldn't betaken verbatim as "never".

If you -never- occasionally clear out the app switcher, eventually all the "cards" for every app you ever opened will clog it up to the point that it's virtually usable. Got 100 apps installed? The app switcher will end up with 100 app "cards" even after you reboot. It becomes way too cluttered.

I think a more workable solution is to clear out the app switcher once a day and force quit an app you know you'll not use again that day.... If you're rebooting once a day like you should. That way, switching between apps will be easier because of less clutter.

There's a bit of missing information from Apple about the app switcher too. If you launch every app you've got, say 100 apps, then reboot the phone, all those 100 "frozen apps" in the app switcher will still remainin on next boot. But they aren't frozen. iOS didnt partially load 100 apps into cache/Ram in the background during boot up. They're just pictures/snapshots of the apps. If you click on one of them, you're loading it up from ground zero. There's no secret cache file in the background that will speed it up or reduce battery drain.

So I say- clear out the app switcher before or after a reboot- so you can actually use it for what it was designed for --- switching apps.
 
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AnthroMatt said:
After about 5 days with an 8 Plus, having sold my X, I’m with you on the top bezel. I miss the full display at the top of the device.

But Face ID was such a hindrance and drag on my user experience that I am “in love” with the bottom bezel and the Touch ID button.
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I agree. I have had my X since launch day but bought an 8+ couple of days ago. Face ID just drove me crazy.
 
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now i see it said:
The mantra of "never force quit apps that are in the background via the app switcher" really shouldn't betaken verbatim as "never".
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That all sounds quite reasonable. As for myself, I close what I don't want to see and leave the things I want there. I realize it takes more juice to reload something from scratch after you've killed it off. But I've NEVER seen that translate into tangible time. It's not like I've cut an hour and a half off my battery life today because I reloaded email 10 times. Just because it technically takes more power doesn't mean people should form habits around this technical detail. I say leave what you want and close what you want. I tend to leave my games in the app switcher for easier access and I close everything else. I close things for organizational purposes, not battery savings. It's useful for me and that's really all that matters.
 
I had zero interest in the X and bought a 7+ in November and a 8+ for my birthday in April. I'll keep using these phones for a few years at least and see what Apple has coming during that time.

I do find once in awhile that either one of these phones batteries might start draining rapidly so I will go and close all the apps and it will solve the problem.

I'm also an Android user and have one of my 3 T-Mobile sims in a Note 8.
 
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Martyimac said:
Just bought an 8 yesterday. The "outdated" design isn't even on my radar as being an issue. Gave my 6S to my son whose 5 finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
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In Terms of design, there really isn’t anything outdated, it’s really based on how the consumer views the iPhone. Not everybody will find the new iPhone X appealing, where as the iPhone 8 still has the iconic look to me. Enjoy the phone.
 
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Mines in black , so with a black case the side parts are a non issue

It all melds together into one cohesive visual experience

Lol , that sounds very pretentious...sorry bout that:D
 
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