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I wouldn't say I "love" the bezels but I'm fine with them. If the choice is bezels or notch I'd take bezels but they could be made smaller without much compromising.
 
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I see where the OP is coming from. The bezels and home button are starting to look a bit dated but they harken back to classic Apple design -- friendly, clean, welcoming. The evolution to a no-bezel front clearly makes sense, and Apple has implemented the new gestures quite well, but that design inherently is less iconic. I don't think there's anything wrong with looking back fondly at the past, even as we move forward. I sometimes admire my early generation iPods because of their incredible design. It doesn't mean I want to use one on a daily basis, just that I appreciate the design achievement they represented.

Also, the iPhone X's notch will never have that iconic quality. Even if you accept the compromise that Apple made, and even if you like the phone otherwise, it's a compromise that is staring you in the face with the X. Apple needs to find a better solution as soon as it can.
The iPhone X looks like an iPhone through and through
 
Well I bought the iPhone 8, and although it was a big improvement over my 6S I returned it as to me it didn’t feel different enough.

But 11.3 has wrecked my battery life even though it reports my 6S one as fine so I need to get a new phone at some point and I have the money from my 8 kicking around so...
I find it entertaining that I did the same thing, and I've seen nothing but improvements lol. To each their own!

As for the battery life of your 6S, and the "health" of the battery... considering draining your battery to below 20%, and giving it a full recharge, for a few cycles. If the "health" goes down after a few full cycles, I'd recommend seeing where the "health" levels off after a week or so of doing that (not convenient for all users, but it's the best way to get a proper read on the battery). I noticed that, with my old 6S, if I didn't let the battery dip really low before recharging it it would consistently report a higher "battery health"... which really annoyed me. Then again, the chip in the battery bases the "health" of the cell on how the battery is used and not entirely on the full capacity.

In short: When I charged my 6S (on average) around the 50% mark, I was consistently getting an 80%+ "health" level from the cell. If I let it dip below the 20% mark, it would start registering closer to the 70% "health" mark. That told me that the battery needed to be replaced, as you should consider replacing your battery when its capacity hits roughly 75% or so. Combined with my inability to charge the phone while using it for work... I knew the battery wasn't as healthy as iOS was claiming (or even the third party app I used prior to the 11.3 update).
 
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The 8 and 8 Plus are timeless classics, it’s an Apple signature, very refined. For landscape user like myself, the 8 Plus is a no brainer, where having a bezel is actually a pro and not a con.

Exactly. What about people with shaky hands? What about people who's fingers curl around the front of the phone to keep it steady like me? What about people who like a bit of bezel so that their fingers are not covering up parts of the all display screen, who like to see all the screen? When you're using your iPhone so you actually notice the bezels or are you in fact just focused on the screen? I don't want to be constantly covering parts of the screen is like to see all of because my fingers require some space to hold it at the sides. F@(k the latest trends and "fashion" which changes every year in the clothing industry. Embrace true USEABILITY. The iphone 6 design has stayed for 4 generations precisely because it works. And that's Apple's biggest and best feature: it just works. Take too much away and if it's not ready you're forced to make compromises ie the notch.

Sure i envision a future where a phone is just a piece of glass but we're not there yet and even Samsung achieved a notch-less design with its Note 8.

But for the reasons above and more (preference for touch id for one) for the love of Dog, Apple, offer a bezel-pro iphone going forward. At least until you achieve an all glass sheet phone without notches and perhaps with an embedded on screen fingerprint option.
 
I haven’t read the entire thread so apologies if I’m regurgitating other’s previously expressed sentiments...

I have a X and enjoyed it for the 6 months that I’ve owned it. I decided to move my sim back to my 7+ a couple weeks ago to see if I truly preferred the changes that came with the X, specifically the OLED display, FaceID, and new gestures.

Turns out, while I thought FaceID was fine, that I actually prefer TouchID. It’s a better experience using the phone while lying flat on a table or in a dock, fails far less and is easier to use Apple Pay. I also like not having to swipe up after unlocking.

And while I like the OLED and lack of bezels, I don’t like the tall and narrow aspect ratio, prefer having the added landscape layout benefits of the Plus model and type much better on the wider display.

The gestures are nice, especially the ability to hot swap open apps along the bottom. But accessing the control center on the X is a tougher reach and closing apps takes more effort as well.

TL;DR - I don’t feel compelled to return to the X and I’m actually about to sell it. I won’t tell anyone else that the X isn’t worth its expensive price tag but decided it’s not a better experience for me.
 
Not any more.

After using the X and getting used to the UI, I like it much better than the old style iPhones. Face ID works so well you do not even think about it.
I’m getting an 8 Plus to replace my X because Face ID is so unreliable. Never works in dark environments (I exaggerate, I got it to work one time!) and only about 2/3 success other times.
 
Turns out, while I thought FaceID was fine, that I actually prefer TouchID. It’s a better experience using the phone while lying flat on a table or in a dock, fails far less and is easier to use Apple Pay. I also like not having to swipe up after unlocking.

And while I like the OLED and lack of bezels, I don’t like the tall and narrow aspect ratio, prefer having the added landscape layout benefits of the Plus model and type much better on the wider display.
I love being able to unlock my phone with it laying on a table, and not needing to have my face directly in front of the screen. In hindsight, I'm relieved that I didn't go for the X for this reason alone. I think a really troubling thing with FaceID, for me, would be when I'm driving and I'm trying to unlock my phone while it's attached to the mount on my centre console; I've seen what the camera sees while sitting there, and it'd be impossible for the X to unlock without picking up my phone. I like being able to unlock the phone, glance at it, and use it pretty much entirely while it's still sitting near my leg. I've grown used to using it there, and switching from TouchID to FaceID almost comes off as a step backwards in this one instance. Just a press of the home button gives me instant access, and I don't need to pick up my phone and hold it while I'm driving... which is one helluva nice feature. Sure, I may have a magnetic mount, but if I don't need to pick up the phone, why would I want to?

And as for Apple Pay, I'm super glad I have TouchID. I've had a few instances where FaceID would have made things much slower (like when I'm in a rush, and simply holding my phone over the card reader with my thumb on the home button. Such a minor gripe, but it would have made a 20 second transaction quickly turn into 60 seconds... and, quite often for me, time is money!

The gestures are nice, especially the ability to hot swap open apps along the bottom. But accessing the control center on the X is a tougher reach and closing apps takes more effort as well.
Reminds me of my friend who bought the X almost right when it came out. He showed me how he had to close apps, and I was instantly put off. After many trips to the Apple store, and playing with the demo phones almost every chance I could, I quickly grew a distaste for that specifically. The thing that annoyed me the most was only being able to shut down one app at a time. Really? I mean, everyone uses their phone differently. Then again, I find myself closing multiple apps at once more often than single apps; and that would drive me mad lol. Hopefully they changed that. I can't find a good reason for having to go through a few gestures for each app closure.
 
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Man, oh, man: a bunch of posts about nothing. Must be the obvious conclusion of the internet. Nothing interrupted by...ads. Lovely.

As to the original post, google “choice-supportive bias.”
 
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I love being able to unlock my phone with it laying on a table, and not needing to have my face directly in front of the screen. In hindsight, I'm relieved that I didn't go for the X for this reason alone. I think a really troubling thing with FaceID, for me, would be when I'm driving and I'm trying to unlock my phone while it's attached to the mount on my centre console; I've seen what the camera sees while sitting there, and it'd be impossible for the X to unlock without picking up my phone. I like being able to unlock the phone, glance at it, and use it pretty much entirely while it's still sitting near my leg. I've grown used to using it there, and switching from TouchID to FaceID almost comes off as a step backwards in this one instance. Just a press of the home button gives me instant access, and I don't need to pick up my phone and hold it while I'm driving... which is one helluva nice feature. Sure, I may have a magnetic mount, but if I don't need to pick up the phone, why would I want to?

I will be picking up a new 8 plus tomorrow and selling my 6 month old X exactly for the reasons above, also not that impressed with the battery life, i cant go back to a 8 size so will just have to suck up the bigger size.
I have FID off for unlock thats how much i like it.
 
I’m getting an 8 Plus to replace my X because Face ID is so unreliable. Never works in dark environments (I exaggerate, I got it to work one time!) and only about 2/3 success other times.

I Find the Bolded in your post highly strange, because actually Face ID works really well in the low light, As it’s not distracted by other surrounding light when its scanning your Face to unlock, and I would say the success rate is actually fairly high when using Face ID in low light or dark conditions. Most complaints are the face ID has issues with brighter conditions that distracts the sensors/camera from successfully unlocking.
 
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The iPhone X is the first iPhone that I didn’t immediately drool over.

I admired it but I didn’t want it - even though I felt that it was right that the design was evolved after the 6, 6s, 7 (and 8) being more or less identical.

The X seems more like a concept car that automobile makers will display at shows to keep an interest in their brands and to explore where their future tech and design could go etc.

Kudos to Apple, they not only put their concept car on sale, they scaled up its manufacture to tens of millions of units.

For those that like the familiar design - I suspect that the 8 (and the ‘SE2’) will stay on sale until 2020. It’s very very fast with a great camera.

For the traditional 2d iOS interface & apps and a few casual games etc. the 8 is going to still feel fast in a few years. It’s a great MoR option.

And I suspect that we’ll be able to say the same about the SE2, although it’ll be slower with a less great camera etc.

For those that do like the X design - I suspect that this year’s mass market (ie cheaper) ‘iPhone’ (it’s meant to be called just that) is going to be the one where the Face ID concept (and IOS UI) is refined.

And it’s going to be the device that AVR apps become massive on.

I suspect that the next version of the X will remain as the high end ‘iPhone Edition’ phone.

So everyone gets to win, right?

EDIT: Price absolutely was a factor for me too re. my feelings about the X.

For me, it would be like the Watch Edition being the only new LTE Watch i.e. ‘that’s cool but not for £1000+. I’ll wait’.
 
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Exactly. What about people with shaky hands? What about people who's fingers curl around the front of the phone to keep it steady like me? What about people who like a bit of bezel so that their fingers are not covering up parts of the all display screen, who like to see all the screen? When you're using your iPhone so you actually notice the bezels or are you in fact just focused on the screen? I don't want to be constantly covering parts of the screen is like to see all of because my fingers require some space to hold it at the sides. F@(k the latest trends and "fashion" which changes every year in the clothing industry. Embrace true USEABILITY. The iphone 6 design has stayed for 4 generations precisely because it works. And that's Apple's biggest and best feature: it just works. Take too much away and if it's not ready you're forced to make compromises ie the notch.

Sure i envision a future where a phone is just a piece of glass but we're not there yet and even Samsung achieved a notch-less design with its Note 8.

But for the reasons above and more (preference for touch id for one) for the love of Dog, Apple, offer a bezel-pro iphone going forward. At least until you achieve an all glass sheet phone without notches and perhaps with an embedded on screen fingerprint option.
Because you cover the screen with the iPhone X, Samsung Galaxy note 8, S8, S9 and countless others who have reduced their bezels. Heck the Pixel bezels are 20 times better then the iPhones

100% of the reason why I hated the iPhone 6 plus was because of the bezels which made me get a 7 and 40% reason why I went with a Note 8 is because of them as well. If I was willing to wait for an X I probably would have but I needed a phone when the Note 8 came out.
 
I love being able to unlock my phone with it laying on a table, and not needing to have my face directly in front of the screen. In hindsight, I'm relieved that I didn't go for the X for this reason alone. I think a really troubling thing with FaceID, for me, would be when I'm driving and I'm trying to unlock my phone while it's attached to the mount on my centre console; I've seen what the camera sees while sitting there, and it'd be impossible for the X to unlock without picking up my phone. I like being able to unlock the phone, glance at it, and use it pretty much entirely while it's still sitting near my leg. I've grown used to using it there, and switching from TouchID to FaceID almost comes off as a step backwards in this one instance. Just a press of the home button gives me instant access, and I don't need to pick up my phone and hold it while I'm driving... which is one helluva nice feature. Sure, I may have a magnetic mount, but if I don't need to pick up the phone, why would I want to?

And as for Apple Pay, I'm super glad I have TouchID. I've had a few instances where FaceID would have made things much slower (like when I'm in a rush, and simply holding my phone over the card reader with my thumb on the home button. Such a minor gripe, but it would have made a 20 second transaction quickly turn into 60 seconds... and, quite often for me, time is money!


Reminds me of my friend who bought the X almost right when it came out. He showed me how he had to close apps, and I was instantly put off. After many trips to the Apple store, and playing with the demo phones almost every chance I could, I quickly grew a distaste for that specifically. The thing that annoyed me the most was only being able to shut down one app at a time. Really? I mean, everyone uses their phone differently. Then again, I find myself closing multiple apps at once more often than single apps; and that would drive me mad lol. Hopefully they changed that. I can't find a good reason for having to go through a few gestures for each app closure.

Why close apps, apart from the rare circumstance in which the app is misbehaving?
 
Why close apps, apart from the rare circumstance in which the app is misbehaving?

That's daily for me. Far from rare.

But it's just one troublesome app, I don't need to do shut down multiple apps at a time. That part I don't understand.
 
Same, except my 8 plus is red.

Gonna take a while to get reacquainted with the top bezel but I already love having Touch ID again.

I would of liked red but it was silver for $1000 or red $1447 here and the way i change phones it's not worth it.
Still havn't opened it yet, have a 4 day old silver X64gb i bought too.
 
Why close apps, apart from the rare circumstance in which the app is misbehaving?
That's daily for me. Far from rare.

But it's just one troublesome app, I don't need to do shut down multiple apps at a time. That part I don't understand.

Why would I leave apps open when I'm not using them? What's the point of constantly draining the battery, and keeping your apps open when you don't need them open to begin with? If you're using certain apps constantly, and launching them constantly interrupts your workflow, then I can understand leaving them open. But if I am going to take a picture (which I might do every few days), why would I leave the camera app open 24/7 just because nothing is "misbehaving?" There's no point in leaving Instagram open 24/7... I really only use it to pass the time while waiting for an appointment, so why leave it open all the time? I can wait 4 seconds for it to launch.

I see the same thing with computers. Is there really a need to leave the web browser open 24/7 when you might only be using it for a few hours each day? My parents actually do that, too, and it's caused them a number of problems (most notably on their old Windows machines, which would constantly get infected simply due to leaving their browser open). If you're going to revisit something fairly soon, or you want it open to keep something handy, I can see why you would leave the application open; otherwise, I find it a complete waste of computing power, battery life, and about as helpful as a cluttered desktop.

Then again, I've been slimming down running processes on Windows machines since before I was a teenager. I used to be able to get Windows XP to idle with less than 256 megs of memory.... and I never had a problem with background services being unavailable lol
 
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Why would I leave apps open when I'm not using them? What's the point of constantly draining the battery, and keeping your apps open when you don't need them open to begin with?
I believe that is a misconception. iDevices pause the app in the background. It actually takes more battery to relaunch the app then to resume the app. Battery drain comes from having background apps active. I turn all this off except where needed like for email and GPS.
 
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