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Hard pass.
If this is Samsung's $1,500 foldable phone, no one's going to buy it - VentureBeathttps://apple.news/A9dUVbp71TuqaI5zvEOjrcw
I’m not really interested in a foldable phone from Apple or anyone else.
Now a folding iPad, that’s a different matter entirely.
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Sorry, but you can't deny all the facts out there that show that when the iPhone was released, it went off like a rocket and no other phone changed the phones as that phone did. Palm Treo was a big FAIL, and that is why they are no longer in business. Same with Windows Mobile phones. None of them were a real smart phone like the iPhone was and the reason they no longer exist.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...hanged-telecommunications-industry/103154146/
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I did not say they invented the smart phone. I said they invented the first real smart phone that changed the world. You can't deny the facts that NO OTHER PHONE at that time made the market change like it did. That is why most other companies that had one are no longer in business or make one (Palm, Windows Mobile).
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Exactly. I owned the Palm devices, and Windows Mobile devices before the iPhone. And hated them. When the iPhone came out, it was a dream. No one could touch it till Android.
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I will have to assume, you aren't old enough to have used all those devices back then with the comments you are making. I did, and the iPhone couldn't compare to those others. It was a real smart phone that worked.
Haha EXACTLY what I was thinking, Apple will do its usual and copy everyone else, then magically get patents on it all, then sue everyone who invented and R&D the tech, and then Apple fans will accuse Samsung if copying Apple...
Umm, lately Samsung has been copying Apple including all the other brands. See all the Androids with the notch now? Or no headphone jack? Or pushing down on the screen gives you the options? Portrait pictures? FaceID like Apple does it? Amoji's and Samsung copied? And so on.
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Yeap, Smart Phones had existed for years before the iPhone. Probably even before some forum members were born, yet Apple apparently invented them, according to some
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Sigh, just give it up already, you’ll never and I do mean never convince me Apple hasn’t ripped of everyone else’s tech, it’s what they do. Samsung innovates, like the Note with its large screen that Apple users laughed and ridiculed until Apple copied it.. or those bezelless Samsung screens..
I was using Smart Phones for years before the first iPhone which was a joke at launch, it’s spec list was pathetic. And it was overpriced, and whilst everyone else has moved on and innovated, Apple has only redesigned the basic philosophy of the original iPhone last year with the X, several years of the exact same design. Oh but apparently according to you Samsung copies Apple, yeah please, Samsung has had bezelless free screens and OLEDS for a while now.
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Yeap, Smart Phones had existed for years before the iPhone. Probably even before some forum members were born, yet Apple apparently invented them, according to some
Apparently you never used the ones before the iPhone was released. I wouldn't call those exactly "smart" phones. They were a pain to use, ugly, unreliable junk. Any news article you find you will see the iPhone changed the way phones are made today. No other phone did that till the iPhone came out.
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Yeap, Smart Phones had existed for years before the iPhone. Probably even before some forum members were born, yet Apple apparently invented them, according to some
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Sigh, just give it up already, you’ll never and I do mean never convince me Apple hasn’t ripped if everyone else’s tech, it’s what they do. Samsung innovates, like the Note with its large screen that Apple users laughed and ridiculed until Apple copied it.. or those bezelless Samsung screens..
I never said Samsung didn't innovate. What I said was they haven't lately and lots of the manufactures have been copying Apple as of recent years. The large screen phablet has been out forever.
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Yeap, Smart Phones had existed for years before the iPhone. Probably even before some forum members were born, yet Apple apparently invented them, according to some
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I was using Smart Phones for years before the first iPhone which was a joke at launch, it’s spwc list was pathetic. And it was overpriced, and whilst everyone else has moved on and innovated, Apple has only redesigned the basic iPhone last year with the X, several years of the exact same design. Oh but apparently according to you Samsung copies Apple, yeah please, Samsung has had bezelless free screens and OLEDS for a while now.
No, all the others were a joke and all the news article and reviews of that time proved it. It wasn't overpriced either. It was in line with what others sold for.
Let's see, Samsung has kept the same design of phone since the S3 I believe through the S5, then the S6-s7 and now s8-s9.
Samsung wasn't the first OLED screen maker.
Enough said.
No appropriately to all the facts. Stop posting misinformation.
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Nobody has been copying Apple for the last few years. But I can see your convinced they do. Believe in that propaganda.
And a hard fact you can’t swallow is that Samsung were the first to market the phablet fact! Apple utterly ripped Samsung’s idea off fact!
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But portrait mode was available on Samsung phones since 2014. It was just software based and was called selective focus. You could even do it with the front facing camera. Apple aren’t the first to have a dual lens camera on a phone. What about large, amoled phones with minimal bezels, all done before Apple. Even phablets, Apple copied from Samsung. Wireless charging, water resistance, fast charging, all things that were on android phones for years before they came to the iPhone.
Samsung don’t have a notch or a headphone jack on their phones.
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Actually Samsung phones have got headphone jacks, but their is no convincing some people, it simply doesn’t exist until Apple has it...
Samsung was not the first for portrait mode. I've owned all Samsung phones and can tell you that. Minimal bezels with curved screens that many hate? I guess people ignored I said RECENTLY COPIED.
Did I say Samsung? I said other manufactures. You have an issue reading posts.
Yes you did....
Go on then, how else has Samsung copied Apple in the last few years then..
Again, no I didn't. Here is exactly what I said. "I never said Samsung didn't innovate. What I said was they haven't lately and lots of the manufactures have been copying Apple as of recent years."
No Samsung were not even the first to do portrait mode. Other android OEMs had software based solutions. It doesn’t matter if people liked them or not and considering that Samsung have sold millions of phones with curved screens and minimal bezels over the years I’d say some people did like them. Remember when Samsung brought out the S6 and S6 edge. The S6 was flat and cheaper yet it was the curved S6 edge that sold more just because of the way it looked. Look at the sharp Aquos crystal phone from 2014. That predates all of these bezeless phones.
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Yes according to him Samsung and all the other android OEMs copied Apple with portrait mode
Lets be honest neither have Apple. Let’s look at the iPhone X. Bezeless Oled displays, been done before. The notch was first done on the essential phone. Wireless charging, fast charging, water resistance. All done before by android OEMs.
Face ID is another type of facial recognition. The idea of using your face to unlock things has been around on android and windows for years. Is Face ID the best solution? Yes it is but let’s not forget they bought another company that had already developed the technology. Just as they bought the companies that made Touch ID and Siri.
I’m not saying that the iPhone X isn’t a great phone because it is but it’s not really all that innovative.
The notion of a foldable display/dual display/flexible display configuration is hardly new, so the innovation is in the execution, not conception. Some years back, there was plenty of "news" about large displays that could be rolled up and carried around in a tube. That would have been great for product distribution and for use in mobile presentations, but not quite as compelling for someone who's just going to unroll the thing, hang it on a wall, and leave it there.
I wouldn't have expected this from Apple, fwiw. While there's a lot to be said in favor of foldable devices, there are also a lot of durability challenges. How many times can that flexible screen fold before cracking? Can the device be easily locked in the open position and easily unlocked again (one of my peeves with flip phones was that they'd flip closed at inopportune times)? While none of these are insurmountable challenges, when it comes to innovations of this sort, Apple prefers to improve on the competitor's design, rather than bring out the first, least-perfect version.
Personally, I think this is more compelling for larger, iPad-sized screens, rather than pocketable devices. For pocketable devices it's swapping length for thickness - sometimes that's helpful, sometimes not. However, a 12.9" iPad Pro (approx. 12" x 8.5") becomes an easier-to-carry 6" x 8.5".
I wouldn't have expected this from Apple, fwiw. While there's a lot to be said in favor of foldable devices, there are also a lot of durability challenges. How many times can that flexible screen fold before cracking? Can the device be easily locked in the open position and easily unlocked again (one of my peeves with flip phones was that they'd flip closed at inopportune times)? While none of these are insurmountable challenges, when it comes to innovations of this sort, Apple prefers to improve on the competitor's design, rather than bring out the first, least-perfect version.
Personally, I think this is more compelling for larger, iPad-sized screens, rather than pocketable devices. For pocketable devices it's swapping length for thickness - sometimes that's helpful, sometimes not. However, a 12.9" iPad Pro (approx. 12" x 8.5") becomes an easier-to-carry 6" x 8.5".
If the word "copying" is to be used this liberally, then I agree that Sharp started this entire bezel thing and other manufacturers copied and tweaked that design.
As far as wireless charging and water resistance, those concepts have been around for 50 years or more. That they made it to another type of form factor is no surprise.
It never ceases to amaze me how close minded people is in regards to change. No offense.
People were laughing about flip phones, then they freaked out badly over "ridiculous" touch screens. Every time there's a new concept, most people reject it ipso facto.
I, on the other hand, like change and get exited about new concepts, everything can be improved.
Sometimes even very good technology innovations don’t make it commercially. Betamax is a good example that comes to mind.
In Legal battles, this is enough proof who copied who.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/27/17510908/apple-samsung-settle-patent-battle-over-copying-iphone
"Galaxy S9’s support for animated emoji, seemingly a direct copy of Apple’s Animoji feature."
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https://bgr.com/2018/06/12/samsung-copied-apples-iphone-meaningless/
Apart from the AR emojis, the court case is referring to things from 8 years ago. You are implying that Samsung are constantly copying Apple, even in recent times.
Luckily a court settled this argument a while ago, right?
Doesn’t change the fact that Apple was in the past able to bundle technologies in its products like no other competitor.
iPod, iTunes, iPhone were disruptive arrivals and won customers immediately.
Yeap, Smart Phones had existed for years before the iPhone. Probably even before some forum members were born, yet Apple apparently invented them, according to some
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Sigh, just give it up already, you’ll never and I do mean never convince me Apple hasn’t ripped of everyone else’s tech, it’s what they do. Samsung innovates, like the Note with its large screen that Apple users laughed and ridiculed until Apple copied it.. or those bezelless Samsung screens..
I was using Smart Phones for years before the first iPhone which was a joke at launch, it’s spec list was pathetic. And it was overpriced, and whilst everyone else has moved on and innovated, Apple has only redesigned the basic philosophy of the original iPhone last year with the X, several years of the exact same design. Oh but apparently according to you Samsung copies Apple, yeah please, Samsung has had bezelless free screens and OLEDS for a while now.
Samsung’s inability to mass produce enough OLED panels is probably also the reason why Apple could not have them in their devices earlier. Nobody sells enough for Apple’s scale.