Honestly, it could totally happen one day. They stopped making smaller phones before then added them again for a time. They make all kinds of products with very few buyers. I think Tim Cook just prefers the chopping block on low performing iPhones but the next CEO may be okay with it. They may look at the demand and love for smaller phones and lean into it. The future is open.
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iPhone 14 Pro If Apple made a pro model phone in a mini size..
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Well, the only construction we haven’t really seen yet is the iPhone 4: glass steel glass sandwich.
And they like to revisit old designs so maybe it’s possible to have a thicker mini size phone.
But they would really have to stack the chips and such to make everything fit.
Not if it’s folded full feature, and then the opening is optional to get iPad size screen experience.
(Ie most of the time it’s folded to be 4” size)
The other thing to consider is that the 13 mini gets really hot, which means it’s clearly better to have bigger phones for heat dissipation.
The chips and such in the 3,4,5 probably don’t get near as hot as the chips today, so they didn’t need to be large to dissipate heat.
Someone who is a mechanical engineer please correct me if I’m wrong. I would love to know more about why the 13 mini gets hot, and how the 14 pro has better thermal cooling.
The chips and such in the 3,4,5 probably don’t get near as hot as the chips today, so they didn’t need to be large to dissipate heat.
Someone who is a mechanical engineer please correct me if I’m wrong. I would love to know more about why the 13 mini gets hot, and how the 14 pro has better thermal cooling.
The 13 pro has a better battery because it has a bigger battery.Idk why I liked your comment
Apart from aod (which is likely to be implemented in iPhone 15 I bet) , every other feature seems to actually save battery
The iPhone 13 Pro has a better battery life thanks to pro motion
3 cameras doesn’t matter much and doesn’t drain much more power afaik (idk too much about iPhones isp tho)
No you won't. People already are not buying $700 iPhone mini (that is already flagship in its own right with flagship SoC and flagship main camera), let alone a $1000 one.
Before Apple released the mini, everybody was saying what you are saying now. When the 12 mini launched, the same people are complaining that it was too expensive.
This is wrong
Quite the opposite in fact,the 13 has a bigger battery then the 13 pro
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I have yet to plug in my 13 mini at the end of the day with less than 50% charge. Not the case with the 12 mini, true, but the 13 mini has been perfect. I’d love/pay for the “pro” features on a mini…
I think that was more to do with Apple marketing and selling the SE when they did.
I’ve now had both an SE and a mini and the mini just destroys the SE in every metric I care about bar cost.
And by shutting down the se production line they could maybe even get the mini cost down due to economy of scale.
I’m personally really hoping they can the SE and just keep the 13 mini in its place and just update it one or two generations after the big phones. Or alternating years.
The form factor is great and it’s much better value than the se.
And yes. I’d consider a pro mini. But the current spec suits me fine too. There are plenty of people whining about the pro cameras being too big on the pro phones already 😂
If I had to pick a subset of the pro feature because not all fit I’d take promotion and LiDAR. I think LiDAR will prove useful in the future for 3d scanning. For me the camera is already good enough.
It WAS too expensive for what it was. The 11 was 6.1” and $699. Then they go and make a SMALLER phone in the 12 mini for $699, which had terrible battery life according to ALL the reviews: of COURSE it won’t sell well.
For the two cameras, smaller screen, and cheaper aluminum and non-premium colors, it should have been $649 (or even better $599) and the 12 should have been $749 (or $699).
The damage was done with the 12 mini, and I doubt most of the public were not swayed with the 13 mini’s better all around improvements in reviews and so sales continued to be disappointing.
Had the 12mini came out with stainless steel sides, and at least LOOKED like a Pro phone, it would have sold so many more for $699, because it would have looked like a premium Apple best product. But Apple failed to attract the Apple small phone faithful 100%, and they failed to attract the general public with a small device that was priced so high at $699 with a smaller screen than the 11, which you could get for $599.
I felt the same way when the 12 mini came out. Still have that phone and will likely upgrade to the 13 mini next year if they don't bring back the mini form factor for a new device.
Everyone is suspect about the mini's battery life, but the battery life is great. Maybe my usage is lower than some, but it's never not lasted me the entire day comfortably.
Have you seen the sales reports for the 14 Plus?... Worst than the mini. The mini at least offers product differentiation, and has a very loyal fanbase. They should just update it like they do the iPad mini, with a new iPhone mini model every 3-4 years. Or, make it the new SE form factor.
The mini is a flagship phone, with flagship materials and SoC. Even a $1000 Samsung uses aluminum and glass.
Sounds like you simply want the iphone Pro for less money, not a small phone. Apple doesn't play that game.
Well, the market proves it as well. Thus Apple discontinuing the mini lineup. Those small phone "faithful" who were pretending they wanted to buy a premium small phone were just talk.
I think there are actually two groups of people who wanted an iPhone Mini:The mini is a flagship phone, with flagship materials and SoC. Even a $1000 Samsung uses aluminum and glass.
Sounds like you simply want the iphone Pro for less money, not a small phone. Apple doesn't play that game.
Well, the market proves it as well. Thus Apple discontinuing the mini lineup. Those small phone "faithful" who were pretending they wanted to buy a premium small phone were just talk.
Group A wanted a Pro Phone with the Pro Features (Telephoto, ProMotion, etc.) and is willing to pay the price for it.
Group B wanted a successor to the original iPhone SE in the same price range as the original SE.
The iPhone 12\13 Mini that Apple actually released does not match any of those except in device size. Group A misses the features, group B the more affordable price.
Yeah but even two weeks after pre-order kick off you still get delivery on launch date. Can‘t remeber the last time that happened for an iPhone. 😉
Imo Group A doesn't exist. 😁 By that I mean extreme niche that it's not worth for Apple to invest in. Apple already put an effort on the 13 mini, probably the best small phone ever made, yet this group doesn't buy.
Group B basically wants a cheap iphone, and in the end, wouldn't mind what size it is as long as it is cheap.
And group B is what the market has proven.
Why I said group A doesn't exist/extreme niche? Look at the bigger market, aka Android. Not that many people buy a Sony or Asus compact flagships. Yet the humongous S22 ultra is the best selling.
In the end, Apple probably cannot justify r&d and cost etc for such extreme niche market.
Then your argument makes zero sense. You should compare regular to Pro to extrapolate a Pro mini’s performance.
Believe me, Apple is not able to make such a product, it no longer has the capacity (all systems are set for huge screens and huge batteries), it no longer wants it (the times of miniaturization and good design are over, this is the time of nonsense and economic returns), it would not know to whom to sell it and it does not even want to sell it.
I bought an SE 2016 on the first day, I changed 7 in 2 years, all with the same problem with the Home button or the screen, all NOT REMEDY with a defect, as soon as the cpu started to heat the rear glass it lifts up.
The same happens with Macs (in fact there is no longer a small one), with iPads (the mini of problems sw has many because Apple does not invest money in it), with Apple Watches (which now have the smallest version of the size of a large one).
Miniaturization costs, if you want to make it powerful, it costs exponentially more. Apple produces Chinese waste and sells it at prices tenfold than the value, which at least a long time ago was tied to software that was worth something, now it sucks.
You wouldn't want a small and powerful Apple product, trust me, you would throw it Against his face every 5 minutes.
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