Almost did under Steve Ballmer. He was the first rate example of an incompetent leader until someone surpassed him 2016. MS had smartphones, touchscreens, smartwatches and plenty of other "next big thing" tech years before Apple or Google, but Ballmer killed them. What he thought of the iPhone in 2007 says it all. Now they're playing catch up on those areas. If MS had a competent CEO at the time, they could have been the biggest dog in the smartphone market today.
Ifixit
At least they have shifted side, just took shareholder’s demanding it. Apple has been vocal against it. so we all welcome it if they come out on top
iMac, Mac mini, Mac Pro? The Xbox went from terrible to great, but the stationary options went from great to terrible for no concrete benefits. (Except the backtracking on the Mac Pro thank god)
Installing custom games and programs such as emulators if you activate developer mode.
Well they are selling them for free. So yes.
Perhaps, but if everyone uses the windows store it will improve the security without removing consumer choice. And developers are incentivized to exist in the windows store as well
Yes they offer the same services almost 1 to 1. Perhaps some differences such as no windows phone for obvious reasons.
Is this apple small businesses program? Considering apple takes 15% below 1 million on all programs, but microsofts takes 5% on every program irrespective of revenue. And games have 12% irrespective of revenue. And IAP 3d party solutions have 0% commission So perhaps not really equivalent.
Before they used to develop Xbox games as exclusives. Now they have decided to not have exclusives so Pc gamers don’t need to buy a console for that one game
Do you have any examples? Cause it seems to be more pro consumer policies than apple poses right now?
Ok. In other words no.
Sure. But good luck to Microsoft implementing it.
You carry around a mac pro?
Oh, activate developer mode. Got it.
Cool so Epic is giving away their vbucks? Very magnamimous move by a scum-bag company.
Well there is competition for a devs end-products. Here I though a dev only had one or two places to go.
Ah, I didn't realize that Microsoft has been offering the same type of ecosystem for the last 10 years.
Perfect. So let the devs develop for windows. Vote with your feet. Seems like Microsoft has it sown up and should make the DOJ happy.
Well I personally would not buy a console, but that's me.
Microsoft has to tread very, very carefully with a 90%+ share of desktop operating systems. Many of the things you mentioned are just red-herring. Right to repair...is it there yet? xbox developer mode...eh what? Seems like rooting android. Microsoft fees? How much does the Microsoft store make vs the ios store? Seems like most devs are happy to give up some fees in return for a no-hassle platform. But the expression you can't please 100% of the people 100% of time applies.
Ifixit have objective measurements for repairability
Shame apple didn’t do it first.
No but everyone hated the Mac Pro trash can for its inability to be upgraded or expanded. Except for a small minority untill the 2019 redesign with universal praise.
Well they aren’t giving away them. They sell them and keeps 100% in the windows store. And they allow other to sell their things inside their games and keep 100%
They do. Office on iOS is one product, on android it’s another , on Mac is another and windows is also another product. That’s 4 different products. With only one available on each. Soon the android product can be used on windows so that will expand it to two.
They launched in 2012 but have been kind of as terrible as the Mac AppStore. Until recently
Yep, so they will escape the DOJ
Well many do as it’s cheaper than a computer to play games
Indeed as long as they don’t enact anti competitive practices they would be fine. I suspect they find enjoyment for looking at google and apple being slapped with anti competitive fines.
There is still no formal program in place.
Apple never does anything first, but when they do something it's a game changer.
Everyone? Proof of this?
Great...let them do that on windows.
This is why ultimately in the US it will be hard to change the way apple operates, even people who believe Apple should be regulated to death agrees there is competition.
So not really.
They didn't in the past, though.
Okay, but you are limited to titles.
Yeah, thinking we've had enough of the DOJ with that IE thing.
Great, so play games on windows. If Apple loses enough gamers to windows, they'll change their policies. It's capitalism at work.
So you agree no company is forcing anybody as long as there is competition capitalism will prevail. We've taken some huge strides here today.
It pains me to see all the discussions over the legal developments over apple's anticompetitive behavior. Investing heavily in services and plastering adds all over the store, and being extremely greedy to maximize profits.
or their obsession to introduce the CSAM that nobody asked for and totally trashed their reputation for privacy and then apparently backtrack
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and the whole thing of even denying they commit tax avoidance, that later was revealed to be completely intentional. paying less than 1% in corporate tax on international sales.
and their continues anti consumer practices when it comes to the ability to replace parts of their computer or phones.
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PLEASE. I don't think Steve Jobs would be unhappy about his decision to hire Tim Cook, who has taken Apple to being the most successful company on Planet Earth. I think he chose the CEO that would ensure Apple's continued success for decades after his death. He chose well.
Why would you need a formal program? We manage just fine without one
Well it went from 2013 to 2019 without any updates and they returned to the original functional design admitting it was a mistake.
Well I can try and make apple change.
Well us is special. So EU will change them unless they leave. And that’s okay
Who knows. Windows release just as much information as apple about their stores profits and revenue.
Have they done anything now?
Better than no games at all
Well I am forced to, apple already lost close to all game publishers. And every gamer.
Competition exist?Anti competitive? and anti consumer action? Yes absolutely to all of them
Well he was a dick. And he cared for his perfect product he envisioned. That’s also good. But he also cared about market share and starting a thermonuclear war with Samsung for copying apple that’s great as well.
He could sell me a bucket of dookie with an Apple logo on it and I’d have no buyer’s remorse. He had a way of making average things sound magical.
So what? There are better products to buy than the ones currently offered by most of those. If some company comes along that offers superior product to Apple's offerings I'll switch without shedding a tear. It's a company not a religion and since I'm not a stock holder I really couldn't care less what happens to it, just that it, or any company makes stuff I want. And by the way, I never got a full refund of the $200 bucks overcharge for the iphone1. And they pulled the same stunt with the original Apple TV. Steve is DEAD. Putting your opinions in his mouth is, in my opinion, frankly disgusting. A cheap way to try to add weight to what YOU want. You haven't got a clue what he would think or do if he came back to impart his wisdom to his followers. None of us do.
Here I can agree with you partially. Steve Jobs was anti-jerking customers and developers around with the UX regardless of the age of your hardware and they've abandoned that hardcore. On the other hand Steve Jobs did also spearhead the no cost OS upgrades with he idea of accelerating the OS in a particualr direction, which we don't know, and that could be more or less what we have today.
The first thing Steve did when he returned to Apple was cost cut. Cut and killed products down to 4 main categories.
"He put products before profits because the natural outcome was huge profits"... *sigh*
