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I probably can’t wait for it. If it’s closer to the 5,1 in function than the 6,1 is I might get it late 2019. In the meantime, I’m in the market for a stop-gap solution this year.
 
I'll get one when I need one. For now my 5,1 is perfect for my needs - and that's what it always come down to right? OTOH I'm glad Apple hasn't forgotten the Mac Pro and I'm very curious about the upcoming model...
 
They would have to get their software back we loved too.
I just hate the way they went with Final Cut.

Just wondering, is it as some have said? The real pros have already moved away from Macs?
Either a hackintosh or a PC?
I love Macs but I wonder at this point if there will be anyone that wants a new Mac Pro in 2018?
 
I need something sooner - both display and 'puter. If the new more-pro iMac is decent, I likely go with that. If not... we'll see.

To be fair a hackingtosh is really easy and cheap to make... I've made one now as a stop gap - I'll definitely buy one when it comes out and I have a new Mac Pro currently but I just bought a new SSD for my PC and followed the instructions on Tonymac
boom GPU score twice as fast as my D700. Rock solid too so far.
 
No, I won't. I'm going to ride out my still excellent 5.1 and use that time to decide where to go next. If Apple continues on the same path where 99.9% of their attention is given to products other than the Mac, they won't see any more of my money.
 
To be fair a hackingtosh is really easy and cheap to make... I've made one now as a stop gap - I'll definitely buy one when it comes out and I have a new Mac Pro currently but I just bought a new SSD for my PC and followed the instructions on Tonymac
boom GPU score twice as fast as my D700. Rock solid too so far.

Been thinking about that. I moved so I had to sell my old monitor. So I would need a new, good one in any case. So far not many that I like are available, and they are costly. My MacBook Pro does not drive the new screens I'd be getting. Factoring that in, iMac might be a decent solution that also fulfils my aesthetically requirements - which I fully admit exists. These also affects the Hackintosh route - I've yet to find a decent case, for one. I also did build one back in the day, and it's not exactly an experience I'd prefer to repeat.

So let's see. For now, I do have a Surface Studio that could carry me for a while.
 
Nope I moved on...over to PC. Too afraid apple will get stuck in the same pit again. releasing something and without a proper plan on how to give it constant support I cannot trust them ever again, since they dont let anybody in..(its annoying knowing that if a new Titan X card comes out or whatever I cant buy it unless apple choose to support it). Also I'm quite happy with my PC, its not like I miss my mac in any way, and I know I can upgrade this machine further whenever I want in any kind of direction I'd like. So bye bye apple, I will enjoy their phones and consumer products, but for professional work, they are not to be trusted and I need the reliability.
 
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For me to trust Apple not to flake out on pro hardware again, I need to be convinced that they will make regular, consistent updates to the Mac Pro line. Just tossing out something whenever they feel like it is unacceptable.

Second, I believe they need to focus on making the OS better. By that, I mean NOT just pumping out a new version every year, but keeping the latest version for a couple years at a time, and fine tuning it sooner. It makes me so annoyed that they put out a new version full of bugs just as the last version was getting stable.

I think the biggest issue with Apple these days is too much focus on weird new junk that nobody wanted, and trying to pass it off as, "You just didn't know you wanted this. It's magical!" No, it's BS. It's not "skating to where the puck will be," it's getting distracted by their own image in the mirror while wearing an emperor costume. Coming up with new ideas is fine, if you've already PERFECTED your current products, and they have NOT perfected their current products.
 
If they make a MP that is user-upgradeable without ridiculously marked-up proprietary parts, I'll almost definitely get one. I'm sure I'll keep my 5,1 going, but I have several kids that are getting more interested in Logic and video work, and they could use the 5,1 (without me getting bumped off of my computer :)
 
Here's a year old list of DAWs and plugins that work in Linux. You can add Reaper to this list and also Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 which has recently been reported to work in at least the Linux version of Reaper. U-he makes my favorite synth plugins and most of them are at least working in Linux as downloadable betas, available on their user forum.

http://linux-sound.org/linux-vst-plugins.html
Thanks for the list. Looks interesting.

Wish I could suspend time & take a month to test all of these to see if they work for me. Oh well, it's nice to dream :)
 
Nope, my guess is the next Mac Pro will be a Mac mini terminal connected to the cloud with software to offload processing to cloud vms.

That would be very contrary to what Apple implied they would do during their Mac Pro mea culpa event.
 
Hence, for me, the new Mac Pro would have to be/have:
  • Fully Customizable: I want to be able to configure my own machine from the ground up.
  • Fully upgradeable: CPU, GPU, RAM, Storage.
  • Easy to upgrade and repair: Full and easy access to all components. Cheaper BTO options.
  • Focused on performance: I endorse power efficiency, but I need a lot of power, nevertheless.
  • CPU: Single and dual processor configurations, 8 core minimum; support for DDR4, 2400.
  • GPU: nVidia. Single chip minimum - 8 GB GDDR5X.
  • RAM: up to 128 GB DDR4 EEC RAM.
  • Storage: Several bays (4 minimum). SSD system disc.
  • Expansion: Minimum 4 slots free.

Default configurations:

Single Processor
  • CPU: 1 x Xeon E5 V4 1xxx
    • Cores: 8
    • Base frequency: 3.4 GHz
    • Cache: 20 MB
  • GPU: 1 x nVidia
  • RAM: 16 GB Minimum
  • Storage: 1 SSD, 512 GB PCIe
Dual Processor
  • CPU: 2x Xeon E5 V4 2xxx
    • Cores: 8
    • Base frequency: 3.2 GHz
    • Cache: 25 MB
  • GPU: 1 or 2 x nVidia
  • RAM: 16 GB Minimum
  • Storage: 1 SSD, 512 GB PCIe.

So, basically a 2010 Mac Pro, updated to todays specs and made smaller?
 
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I would buy a modular system but could not trust apple to release new modules in a timely manner. I no longer believe the mac is part of apple's long term roadmap.
 
I would wait for gen 2 (in 2023?), then pick one up from the refurb store if it's under £2000 and I can upgrade it down the line. Depends on the iMac Pro too but I like my 34" ultrawide monitor and built in raid

In the meantime, buying a second hand 2013/2014 Mbp as a backup in case the day comes that my 5,1 doesn't wake up.
 
That's what everybody keeps saying, but I've never seen a computer pull out its wallet yet.

not sure how you can't believe this. For example I had some huge delays a few months back on a project due to a slow Mac. The time wasted was easily the cost of a new computer [time that could have been spent on other projects earning $]. The hardware is cheap. I spend probably 3 times as much on software as hardware each year per computer.
 
not sure how you can't believe this. For example I had some huge delays a few months back on a project due to a slow Mac. The time wasted was easily the cost of a new computer [time that could have been spent on other projects earning $]. .

doing what? how did the computer cause the delay?
 
by not being fast enough / overheating / crashing etc - basically 3D work. Any delays are $. I just need pro machines that are super stable, fast and current. Which does mean when the new new MP comes out we will be looking at them. In the meantime whilst Apple work out how to build a workstation, the office is getting switched to Windows and HP workstations with Nvidia GPU's.

As a caveat I do know Windows crashes too and there is more maintenance. However we have worked in parallel systems for a while between OS's so it is not a big deal.

Edit : as a side note - a colleague who does not know anything about computers, bought the latest 2016 top end MBP for her work [Cinema 4d etc] and is very disappointed. She is a creative and what is typically described as a 'pro' and got sucked into believing a 'pro' monikered machine was good enough for her. Now $4000 out her pocket.... same could be said for the 2013 Mac Pro. Let's hope the 2018 / 2019 MP does not dissapoint.
 
"basically" ?
hmm..

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if your mac was either overheating or crashing then you have a faulty computer or buggy software..

as far as not being fast enough, what do you mean by fast? like, you were sitting at the computer-> move the mouse, wait 5 seconds, click a key, wait 20 seconds, orbit the model, wait 30 seconds, etc?

as in your body movements were outpacing the computer and it couldn't keep up with you? or something else?
 
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