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If Verizon offered the iPhone, would you switch?

A lot of people have been brainwashed into thinking that big Red is all that and a bag of chips. It's not. It's marginally better at best. The reason everyone want's it on verizon is because they don't want to leave their contracts and the fact that big Red has crap phones. Why people stay with that company is beyond me. Customer service is horrendous and non existent.

I bailed from big Red thankfully earlier this year. I will never look back. AT&T has been nothing but nice.
 
AbSoluTc said:
A lot of people have been brainwashed into thinking that big Red is all that and a bag of chips. It's not.
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Nobody is brainwashed. But people do have different experiences.

Mine is that ATT drops calls, while Verizon does not. Verizon has far more coverage and faster 3G where I am. Their customer service has always been good to me. Therefore, yes, Verizon is "all that" to me, no "brainwashing" needed.

Your experience was obviously different.
 
If people were brainwashed into thinking VZ is all that I don't think so many would have jumped ship for the iPhone. It's true Verizon's phone selection suck's, and what they do have are severly hobbled. Which begs the next logical question: IF Verizon gets the iPhone how will it impair it's features?

In the end they are all just phones, and if you can't make phone calls on your, um, phone the carrier has failed. Where I live, in my experience, AT&T has failed, and I will most likely go back to VZ when LTE/iPhone launches .
 
AbSoluTc said:
A lot of people have been brainwashed into thinking that big Red is all that and a bag of chips. It's not.
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I know right? I prefer Juicy fruit.

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JabbaMac said:
If people were brainwashed into thinking VZ is all that I don't think so many would have jumped ship for the iPhone. It's true Verizon's phone selection suck's, and what they do have are severly hobbled. Which begs the next logical question: IF Verizon gets the iPhone how will it impair it's features?
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Verizon & Apple making decisions on the array of features they both have will definitely be interesting. :eek:

That is what I think about the most to this debate of a possible Verizon iPhone. I would want a Verizon iPhone because I do think they have a better network, but I really don't think a Verizon iPhone is even in the picture till 4G (LTE).

The vCast/Verizon issue will be a holdup in the corporate world. Licensing & corporate issues may be the blame in the end, and not the technology of the telco companies...
 
It's true Verizon's phone selection suck's, and what they do have are severly hobbled. Which begs the next logical question: IF Verizon gets the iPhone how will it impair it's features?
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Verizon doesn't hobble their smartphones, and their selection is getting better all the time. (Touch Pro 2, Omnia 2, Imagio, Android and Pre coming.)

Apple has impaired their own phone far more than Verizon would. No stereo BT for years, no BT keyboard or file transfers even now, little customization, and locked into a single app store.
 
JabbaMac said:
If people were brainwashed into thinking VZ is all that I don't think so many would have jumped ship for the iPhone. It's true Verizon's phone selection suck's, and what they do have are severly hobbled. Which begs the next logical question: IF Verizon gets the iPhone how will it impair it's features?

In the end they are all just phones, and if you can't make phone calls on your, um, phone the carrier has failed. Where I live, in my experience, AT&T has failed, and I will most likely go back to VZ when LTE/iPhone launches .
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It's not just how will VZ impair the function - it's the fact that everyone keeps saying VZ can handle 30 million iPhone users better. Nobody knows how the VZ network would handle that many users and that much data from the iPhone crowd. It's NOT the network, it's the massive amount of people on it. NOBODY anticipated how well the phone has done. Not even your beloved VZ. Turn the tables and I am sure that their network would be crying in pain as well.
 
kdarling said:
Those comments make no sense today, as Verizon doesn't hobble their smartphones, and their selection is getting better all the time. (Touch Pro 2, Omnia 2, Imagio, Android and Pre coming.)

Apple has impaired their own phone far more than Verizon would. No stereo BT for years, no BT keyboard or file transfers even now, little customization, and locked into a single app store.
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Please. This is just pure BS. If that's all you have to complain about - your grasping for air. Tell me why you need stereo BT? This coming from someone that probably also states that itunes music is crap to begin with. BT keyboard? You want a PDA? Go buy one. File transfers via bt because why again? Customization? Single app store? What other app store do you want? Sounds like you want a winmo phone but I am sure you will find something to complain about there.

Whine whine whine is all people do. Go build a better phone and a new network and get back to us and we will judge whether it's perfect or not and tell you what to change and complain about the most lamest things ever as well. :rolleyes:
 
facts are very simple, at least around here in NYC.

The iPhone is really bad and it's gotten infinitely worse since the upgrade to 3.0 on.

What do I mean by really bad: well -
1) connection to the network is rather random;
At least a few times a day I cannot send emails or text messages at all (of course I have full signal, 3G). The only solution is rebooting the phone, which works most of the times.

2) voice messages are either shown hours later or, when shown at the actual time of the call, cannot be heard for hours;

3) text messages are delivered .. whenever. Pathetic.

This is a joke. Good news, the iPhone for me is indeed a toy, not a work tool or anything serious. I love it for that reason only !

Now, there are only two possibilities: (a) AT&T is the problem or (b) the phone itself sux.

Historically, AT&T, here in the NY area I emphasize, has always been light years behind Verizon. I suspected it's caught up a bit recently, but not sure the extent. The experience with the iPhone, pretty clearly described above, is bad, but whatever it is, Apple is responsible.

So, yes, I would certainly switch to Verizon. It could not be worse.
 
grantsdale said:
No, because if Verizon had the onslaught of iPhones that AT&T does, they would be having the same problems.
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While I cannot speak on what-if situations, AT&T had poor call service BEFORE the iphone. Maybe Verizon would have problems if they had the iphone, but as someone who was with AT&T for 10 years, there were times if I was expecting a phone call I would have to lean my phone against the window. Most of my phone calls would go straight to voicemail, then I would call them back. I wouldn't even go to certain neighborhoods if I was expecting an important phone call. This is years before the iphone, and 1 year with the original iphone. Anyway, I switched to Verizon, and I'm not sure if there is anywhere they DONT have service. I do wish I could have better phones like the ones on AT&T and T-mobile, but its the price of having reception everywhere I go.

P.S - I live in DC, not the suburbs.
 
AbSoluTc said:
... it's the fact that everyone keeps saying VZ can handle 30 million iPhone users better.
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Wrong figures. You're talking worldwide. AT&T has about a third of that many paid users.

But I agree... it's unknown how well Verizon could actually handle that many. All we do know is that they have a superior 3G footprint, and are installing far better backhaul capability, which is key. And they've never had the dropped calls problem of AT&T to begin with.
 
I AM MAD AND ASHAMED!!!!!

MOST of the people in these forums were MAD at at&t for not offering MMS for over 2 1/2 years, and some 3G services in some areas!

now most people are HAPPY??????:confused:

WHAT???!!!!!:p:p:p:p:p

ohhh and i would buy the iphone on verizon.... yup....
 
kdarling said:
Wrong figures. You're talking worldwide. AT&T has about a third of that many paid users.

But I agree... it's unknown how well Verizon could actually handle that many. All we do know is that they have a superior 3G footprint, and are installing far better backhaul capability, which is key. And they've never had the dropped calls problem of AT&T to begin with.
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I am not up on the figures and it was just a round number I guesstimated at. My point being is all these VZ threads that keep popping up saying this would be and that would be and the iPhone would be better - is nothing more than speculation at best. NOBODY knows how well VZ network would have handled the onslaught. Period.

Just because they are doing something NOW doesn't mean squat. So they see and have learned what happens (ALA AT&T and the iPhone). Nothing is superior. They CLAIM to have superior stuff and from YOUR experience believe that. Just because YOU have good service does not mean the same thing for everyone else. Trust me.

I am not defending one or the other. I have had BOTH companies. Both have good service for me. VZ was better in low signal/questionable areas where as AT&T signal is more vulnerable in the same spot. This is at my home. Both had problems there. However, out and about day to day - no issues. I have never just dropped a call. Maybe once but again, more of a signal being low issue. I have dropped more VZ calls than AT&T. Call clarity with AT&T is even better. No issues again. Customer service was horrendous with VZ. Nothing but goodness with AT&T. I am extremely happy.

Again, it's all in where you live. It might be peaches and cream for one carrier and hell on earth for another - perhaps vice versa. You can't apply YOUR experience as a sweeping conclusion for everyone else.
 
It might be peaches and cream for one carrier and hell on earth for another - perhaps vice versa. You can't apply YOUR experience as a sweeping conclusion for everyone else.[/QUOTE]

Well I think the issue is that for a lot of people, it seems like the general consensus that AT&T has poor call service. The thing is that people complain about Verizon (they constantly mess up my bill), but they don't really complain about their service. Verizon call quality is top notch in my opinion, and it seems like a lot of people share that opinion. It might be that you are applying YOUR experience against everyone elses. Everytime Apple releases a new iphone, I get tempted, but then I remember what I went through with AT&T for so many years, and the day I switched, I vowed to NEVER go back. So I stick with Verizon's lackluster phone selection because the service they provide is stellar. But hey, if you like AT&T stick with them. I didn't, so I didn't.
 
I'd be happy to stay with AT$T if I could get at least 2 bars versus the 1/0 bars I get now, and maybe 25% dropped calls versus 50% dropped calls and voicemail coming in say within an hour instead of the normal 2 hours. Yeah, I bet VZW can't beat any of those numbers and wouldn't be worth the trouble. :eek:
 
caccamolle said:
facts are very simple, at least around here in NYC.

The iPhone is really bad and it's gotten infinitely worse since the upgrade to 3.0 on.

What do I mean by really bad: well -
1) connection to the network is rather random;
At least a few times a day I cannot send emails or text messages at all (of course I have full signal, 3G). The only solution is rebooting the phone, which works most of the times.

2) voice messages are either shown hours later or, when shown at the actual time of the call, cannot be heard for hours;

3) text messages are delivered .. whenever. Pathetic.

This is a joke. Good news, the iPhone for me is indeed a toy, not a work tool or anything serious. I love it for that reason only !

Now, there are only two possibilities: (a) AT&T is the problem or (b) the phone itself sux.

Historically, AT&T, here in the NY area I emphasize, has always been light years behind Verizon. I suspected it's caught up a bit recently, but not sure the extent. The experience with the iPhone, pretty clearly described above, is bad, but whatever it is, Apple is responsible.

So, yes, I would certainly switch to Verizon. It could not be worse.
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I have found that in the basement of my house I have much better luck making and receiving calls/texts/emails when I turn my 3G off and switch to Edge (I also turn on wifi, but that doesn't effect the calls/texts, just do it so my internet and email aren't really slow). My phone even shows that I have full or close to full 3G bars, but when I do a field test the number is pretty crappy.

While it kinda sucks having to turn 3G off on a 3G device, I would rather do it then have a bunch of random unsent texts and whatnot.
 
no... i wouldn't switch... i have no issues with at$t and i have a lot of rollover minutes built up (not that i ever use all my minutes so that i have to get into them anyways.)
 
BigRitz said:
YES! I would without a doubt. AT&T coverage in my town (Columbus Ohio) is not as good as other states. I dropped my iPhone a while back and switched to a Verizon product and now LOVE the coverage but miss my old iPhone.
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Interesting... I'm in Columbus as well, and have had completely opposite in regards to coverage.
 
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