But given you have used a high end PC with W7 why would you say that. I have both and enjoy both and if I'm honest I enjoy my W7 machine more than my iMac.
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I'm having serious Buyer's remorse
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But given you have used a high end PC with W7 why would you say that. I have both and enjoy both and if I'm honest I enjoy my W7 machine more than my iMac.
I have recently gone across to the MAC and price was not a concern.. i had sold, built , supported PC for 10 years in retail and owned , worked on them for 15 - 20 years ... just go and spec up a quality PC with similar specs to MAC and $$$ wise their isn't too much difference .. a good PC with a decent screen will cost you approx the same but OSX is miles ahead
i saw too many machines in PC days come back from so called tech people who stuffed their O/S , system from playing around and not knowing what they are doing ... If you want to mess around fine but don't expect support when you stuff things up but some people wanted their cake and to eat it too...
The temps are very normal for components ... the first thing i did was install a temp monitor app and my hdd in this system runs similar temps to my old raptor drive in my full tower what tech knowledge do you possess as 40 - 50 Celsius is fine for a hard drive ....
And no user don't need control of the hardware because they play around and break stuff .. if under warranty then expect the company to fix what they broke
Somebody is obviously on a fanboy hunt here - the only question is who. But even though it's undeniable that MR has more than its fair share of fanboys, it's more troll-resistant than most other websites that I have... ahem... visited. Except for PRSI, of course.
I think it's admirable that someone with buyer's remorse admits it openly in a public forum - people with that issue are often in some kind of denial about it.
I think it's admirable that someone with buyer's remorse admits it openly in a public forum - people with that issue are often in some kind of denial about it.
The single button Mac mouse was ditched at about the same time Win2000 came out to an adoring fan base...
The magic mouse makes a PC mouse look like something out of the stone age.
Tip, go to an Apple store, then come back here with a big slice of humble pie
Depends on what a mouse is to you. IF its something that looks sexy with gimicky features, and your have exceptional small hands, sure the magic mouse is perfect. I personally think its a case of design over form, its ergonomically a total failure and I ditched mine cause I could not use it all day. Next time your in a mall, go into a PC store and try one of the better Logitech mice etc, that is what a mouse should feel like in your hand.
Agreed. I have a MBP, iMac, MBA blah blah... but I could not part with my Gaming PC. The PC frankly runs circles around anything Apple has to offer gaming wise, and it matches the pros for video encoding. In the scheme of things, the iMac is an All in one, and running a mobility GPU, in the pecking order of AMD/Intel systems running running Nvidia/ATI upto 4xSLI/Crossfire, average performance would be being generous. IF your a Apple Fanboy and refuse to accept PCs still exist, yeah you have the second best Best gaming computer in existance behind the Mac Pro. Though its not rocket science to accept that PC fanboys that are running 6 core extreme CPUS, with liquid cooling pushing 5GHZ Overclocks, running any of the top of the Range GPUS to extreme 4 x SLI/crossfire, with dedicated high end audio cards are experiening gaming that Apple fan boys have no idea about, at really extreme resoutions on multiple monitors, nvidia users even get 3D in games.
Sorry, but the normal operating temp for one HDD to last is about 29-30-35 C range. With 40-50 C temp, your HHD will probably last no more than 1-2 yr.
Good point, I believe the max temp for HDDs is 60 C for more manafacturers, so if you spending alot of time gaming and with themps around 40-50, make sure you have Apple care and backup you data.
And because we do not pay the "Apple tax care" - 169$, we buy good case, and care for the inside temp to be no more than 30C for the HDD. And IF they fail, a will buy them new for 100-130$, not for 150$ (2TB). And will care for myself myself, without paying the extra 169$ for nothing. 160$ is one amazing Supermicro P67 board... .
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First-time Mac Buyer here (got my new 27" iMac last Thursday). I felt buyers remorse for about 4 days...but now, I am really starting to enjoy my new system and feel very good about the purchase.
It helps that I was able to activate Civilization V from my steam account (I played on my PC) quite easily and I am now enjoying the game from the perspective of a really fast computer and great graphics.
It helps that I was able to activate Civilization V from my steam account (I played on my PC) quite easily and I am now enjoying the game from the perspective of a really fast computer and great graphics.
I'm gonna get yelled at, but I've decided the imac isn't for me. I'm sending it back. I just wanted to thank everyone who guided me through the system, but I'm gonna stick with my old windows xp system temporarily, until I decide which pc I'm gonna go with. I'm putting my old memory back in. Does it matter which slot I use? I don't remember if they put it in the first row, or the second.
I'm putting my old memory back in. Does it matter which slot I use? I don't remember if they put it in the first row, or the second.
I second that; I moved from a Mac to a PC and my initial experience was positive but it took me around 3-5 months to get buyers remorse as my use of Windows went beyond superficial and started to push its limits. Then again I see these people come into forums on a regular basis and most of them are just angry Windows users who are frustrated that they're unable (for what ever reason) to get a Mac so they feel the need to 'put down' Mac users to make themselves feel better.
I personally doubt the original posts problems - I mean for heavens sake, he didn't even spend some time learning the ropes! I remember when I moved from the PC world (FreeBSD on a Dell PIII 550Mhz 'Coppermine') to the Mac world I had to relearn a lot of things (I ran FreeBSD w/ KDE) but eventually I got back into the swing of things then after a year I appreciated the 'Mac way' of doing things. I really can't honestly believe that a person can make a comprehensive assessment based on a few hours using it.
As for Pecorino, why are you even here when you're not a Mac user - if you're a happy Windows user then go off to one of the many Windows forums and talk to like minded people there. I am signed upon Neowin and I never enter the Windows section unless I have something helpful to offer when someone is asking for support, other than that I don't see my self as some sort of 'crusader' for the 'true platform'. As for your temperature paranoia, I've had this computer for almost 3 years and all the 'heat' in the world hasn't screwed it up. How about this idea sunshine, Apple is filled with engineers who know what they're doing - don't assume because you have a Macrumors account that it automatically makes you an expert.
Apple and Microsoft don't need us to do a sales pitch, they have a dedicated marketing department to handle that - the only thing I get frustrated at are people who deliberately lie knowing full well what they say is completely false.
you said it perfectly. I have a mbp and absolutely love it as a Laptop. Only reason is b.c there is no comparable windows laptop. They all either suck in battery life or build quality; etc. I just built my first gaming rig. i7- 2600k, Asus p67 pro board, 8 gb 1600 mhz ram, 128 gb c300, 6950 gpu (flashed to 6970), running on 3 monitors like a champ. Fastest computer ive used to date. OC'ed to 4.5 ghz on a cheap 212+ cooler. IMHO mac desktops are ripoffs. All that cost me roughly $1500ish. Even if i bought a 27" IPS monitor, i could spend less than $2000.
wow you seem to be a computer expert
... you should write to apple and tell them their engineering is just a total failure. i personally don't like apple desktops, but show me a manufacturer with the build quality apple has in ALL of its' products in the consumer channel. Windows laptops don't even compare to apple's laptops in build quality and durability.
Apple desktops, while i think their are overpriced, are hands down better overall computers than the average desktop you can buy at any windows manufacturer. Only time apple desktops seem like ripoffs in comparison are when you compare them to custom built pcs. Than again so do windows manufacturers. Show me a windows manufacturer that sells a great gaming rig for under $1200 and than ill b sold.
I have spent 20 years with PC 's and certainly know the temps and what they can do .....
That quote is straight from the manufacturers spec sheets on hard drive operation... so as said those temps are fine .. even the 60 degree max has a 15 % threshold built in for safety purposes so really it would about 70 degrees max ...
All my hard drives over the last few years have run around the 40 degree mark even in high end full tower cases and my own WD Raptor 150gb i have had for 6 years at those temps and still running..
So i am sorry to say you have no clue about PC's either so please leave the tech advice to more qualified people...
I have to confess that all these posts from all sections tend to do my head in as I find them so predictable and depressing. I don't know who is worse, i.e. switchers who slag Windows off and state everything in Windows is crap and they will never go back etc. etc. or Mac users who have a superior attitude and worship at the alter of Jobs.
This is my steer on things - if you're comparing a modern Mac to Windows XP or Vista then I can see why one would say OS X is the way to go. However, if you are comparing OS X to Windows 7 then I consider the divide between the two is now non existent. They are both good OS's begining and end of and the software for either is just as good with maybe the exception of MS Office which I think has no equal.
All this rubbish concerning hardware really ticks me off though. I have had a computer since Windows 3.1 and have never had any Windows hardware fail on me, that includes HDs graphics cards mobo etc. etc. and some of that hardware has been running for eight years. My iMac is now two years old and so far has been reliable. However, I purchased a Mac Mini 2010 model that failed within minutes of start-up and the replacement failed within 7 days.
I therefore take all this Mac is best Windows is best baby house posting with a pinch of salt. Talk about kindergarten
This is my steer on things - if you're comparing a modern Mac to Windows XP or Vista then I can see why one would say OS X is the way to go. However, if you are comparing OS X to Windows 7 then I consider the divide between the two is now non existent. They are both good OS's begining and end of and the software for either is just as good with maybe the exception of MS Office which I think has no equal.
All this rubbish concerning hardware really ticks me off though. I have had a computer since Windows 3.1 and have never had any Windows hardware fail on me, that includes HDs graphics cards mobo etc. etc. and some of that hardware has been running for eight years. My iMac is now two years old and so far has been reliable. However, I purchased a Mac Mini 2010 model that failed within minutes of start-up and the replacement failed within 7 days.
I therefore take all this Mac is best Windows is best baby house posting with a pinch of salt. Talk about kindergarten
you mean afraid of losing all of your hard earned CHANGE. I'm going to keep my Imac, but it is well over priced.. it is designed and marketed to the Rich and Professional, not the average person that values a couple of Gssss
I'm gonna get yelled at, but I've decided the imac isn't for me. I'm sending it back. I just wanted to thank everyone who guided me through the system, but I'm gonna stick with my old windows xp system temporarily, until I decide which pc I'm gonna go with.
You won't be yelled at by me. If the iMac isn't for you that's fine. I hope the Windows pc you get serves you well.
I have always hated iMacs. Not that I have anything against Apple, it's just the iMac. I ****ing hate them.
I don't believe all 60 died......your just down on PC's. I have a Dell XPS 8100 that works fine along with an iMac that works fine also. The XPS computers are the best of Dell's line. You are saying that not even 1 Dell kept working...nah can't belive that. Now if an electric malfunction got to the entire group that might be true.
I know it.....there are so many good ideas in the this Mac forum..but seems that some like to bitch and twist things around to suit themselves. Most forums have their share of crack pots that enjoy posting rubish. And reading all that crap is the price of being a member. I have left this place feeling I would never return just from getting hit with the stuff you are talking about. Some love to twist the meaning of things into a junk post. We all have opinions.........but not all opinions are true to the facts.
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Yes, but what does this system cost ? Macs are not for everyone.
iMac is an all in one, and it is less expensive and better built than most other companies all in ones. If you are in the market for an all in one, it is a viable option. (The best one in my opinion).
Mac Pro is a (outdated
) Xeon powered workstation. Compare it to other Xeon powered workstations and you will be pleasantly surprised. Mac Mini is made to run circles around Atom machines and still sip power. They are excellent for most people's computer needs. Can you convert video with them ? Of course. Is it the best machine for that ? No, but if you only do a few DVDs every now and then, why spend $5,000 on a 6 core machine ? It makes a great office/HTPC/server. Power cosumption of less than 1.5 watts in the sleep mode, less than 10 at idle, and it only has an 85 watt power supply.
If none of these desktops meet your needs, then Macs are not marketed for you.
Yes, it is.
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Why would you say that? I play games on my iMac all the time. The back gets warm and the fans crank up a little but the ATI 4850 works great and it doesn't overheat. I'm mainly using SC2 under OS X. I haven't put bootcamp on this one but I've used it on other iMacs w/o an issue. Other than all the defective 8800GS GPUs I haven't heard of any issues related to iMacs not being utilized for gaming.
Cheers,
It wasn't about gaming on the iMac... Think about it for a moment.
Scheiße... LOL
Cheers,