Especially when there are amazing options for half the price. I cannot wait for the Pixel 3 to come out! Very soon : )
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Especially when there are amazing options for half the price. I cannot wait for the Pixel 3 to come out! Very soon : )
Using the YouTube app as an example of something Apple removed is disingenuous for a few reasons.
First, I believe it was an issue with google that caused the removal in the first place.
Second, app updates without requiring an entire os update are superior. In fact this is wht anddoid doesnand it is such a smart way to do things I don't get why Apple doesn't. Oh there's a bug in messages? Let us push an update just through messages through the App Store. The YouTube app being handled by google is a boon in every way imaginable.
The headphone jack is a point of contention for me. Many don't care. I still do. And I use the X. There's a lot of gripes I have aboutnwitleess too not the least of which getting out of sync audio sometimes in Netflix movies.
Anyway, buy what you like. The only way Apple (or any coming) will change is if enough dissatisfied customers cotenwith their wallets. The reality is that, despite some decisions I dislike, I'm willing to deal with it. Many others are too.
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First, I believe it was an issue with google that caused the removal in the first place.
Second, app updates without requiring an entire os update are superior. In fact this is wht anddoid doesnand it is such a smart way to do things I don't get why Apple doesn't. Oh there's a bug in messages? Let us push an update just through messages through the App Store. The YouTube app being handled by google is a boon in every way imaginable.
The headphone jack is a point of contention for me. Many don't care. I still do. And I use the X. There's a lot of gripes I have aboutnwitleess too not the least of which getting out of sync audio sometimes in Netflix movies.
Anyway, buy what you like. The only way Apple (or any coming) will change is if enough dissatisfied customers cotenwith their wallets. The reality is that, despite some decisions I dislike, I'm willing to deal with it. Many others are too.
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Isnit supposed to be half the price of the xs? That will blow me away and it will likely be my work phone.
I cannot wait either.. that way you folks will go to google's forums and whine and complain!
Conversely, if you enjoy the product, just use it and be content, why rejoice about it on the internet. Just move on and use the product, it's not that difficult.
Let's just shut down all forums.
There's a difference between discussing a product, talking about it's pro's and cons, new features, how it will benefit the users, etc. and complaining about it year after year (for essentially the same reasons) and continuing to buy the product.
Everyone keeps saying that they need to redesign things because they have been “the same” for a while. This is not a good reason to change things. They shouldn’t redesign things for the sake of newness. If they think that there’s a better way to do it then they should change it. But also keep in mind that this means re-establishing new patterns for the mainstream markets.
I personally like to see a battery that can last for 48hrs under normal use without exploding (i.e. Galaxy Note 7).
Pretty much the perfect response.
It makes me think of that comedic bit about screaming and shouting about how wi-fi isn't working whilst you're sat on a plane travelling across the Atlantic. What we have is stunning, in terms of Smartphones. Not just iphones but the choice available to everyone - everyone being unique to their own tastes. Some people dont care for specs or ppi or whatever. Others geek out over it. Others use their phones as a glorified app launcher. Others want to do everything on it. It also makes me think of Elon Musk saying how we - humans - are practically in the Beta stage of being machines. That we are almost never detached from our phones in terms of communication and information. That I suppose at some point in the future (a long way off) we'll have implants that give us the same ilk of access we have today but probably x 1000.
My point being, the phones we have are only perceived to be boring or lacking innovation because of the sheer tremendous rate of evolution we have found ourselves in, during the past 10+ years. We are spoilt. And I for one love it.
I see a lot of people dumping on the OP here and its not justified. Cool, you're excited about the new phone and you're huge fans of Apple. Look at my join date, I've been here a long time and gone through many iterations of iphones over the years. I agree with EVERY SINGLE point OP made here. If you're not seeing these incremental updates for the business decisions that they are, then I don't know what to say to you. Sure its an awesome phone on its own and will suit everyone's needs quite well, but we are enthusiasts here. To have a keynote as lackluster and embarrassing as we saw last week is really disappointing to say the least. I know many feel the same way but just aren't as vocal.
I see your point and don't think it's a big deal to openly discuss things you may not like about a product, but it's insanity to have nearly identical posts from one year to the next and still buy the same product. He basically describes a Note as what he wants, yet doesn't purchase a Note. I think that's where the dumping comes in. For myself, if the iPhone didn't provide me value and another product did, I would go buy the product that did. It's almost like complaining about not having a certain feature on a microwave and instead of going and buying a microwave that has said feature, you complain about it year after year on the internet. People would look at you sideways there too. His points may be valid for him, but instead of doing something about it, he's just complaining.
No, there isn't. You don't get to decide how someone else puts forth their opinion unless they are being disrespectful or offensive as per the forum rules, which the OP was not.
Okay, that's fine. We don't have to agree here. It's just my opinion on the subject. If the OP wants to continue to post the same stuff ever year instead of doing something about it, he'll likely get the same type of responses. You can only cry wolf so many times. Nice of you top back him up though.
Other than annoying people what does one expect "venting online." Do you think 99% of us or Apole really cares? ESPECIALLY on an Apple-centric forum?
You can bang your head against the wall 20 times too, but dont expect a different time than the first.
Ummm, how about this past week, when we got the stock "Measure" app in iOS12, that let's you measure things in real-life through the camera with AR. Is that not innovative enough for you?
It would be if it actually worked fine.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2018/09/19/apples-ios-12-measure-app-and-accuracy/
https://venturebeat.com/2018/06/08/...ood-enough-ai-assisted-ar-really-good-enough/
Since it doesn't, it's just a gimmick right now.
I love Apple but the only product that I've found it has the classic "wow" Apple factor (good quality, work great, easy to use, convenient, "magic") is the AirPods. But removing the headphone jack to bully people into buying them is cheap. Slowing down the home button to make Face ID look better is bad. And the whole battery throttling was really cheap and dirty.
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Everyone has differing opinions, but it is repetitive.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/i-hate-the-x-with-a-passion-and-tim-cook-needs-to-go.2068299/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-is-dead-to-me.2066416/
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-i-told-you-so-but-i-did-tell-you-so.2089334/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-x-sales-not-living-up-to-expectations.2097420/
You mean these threads.
He clearly prefers the note but keeps buying iPhones, or claims too.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/i-played-with-the-note-8-and-now-the-iphone-looks-blah.2081683/
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...and-peforms-better-than-the-iphone-x.2084468/
We are trying to help him with his issue. Go buy the Note or another device that fits your needs better. It's not that complicated.
Absolutely agree. But we shouldn't be telling him to stop posting his thoughts or leave.
There will always be people who want to upgrade their phones, at different times, so it would be a bad business decision for Apple not to release a new phone every year. Especially when competition is doing exactly that. For customers, no one needs to upgrade every year, and most don’t, it just comes down to personal choice. If you don't find value in the new features, then don't upgrade. I don't fault Apple for releasing a better phone each year though.
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Strawman much?
Simply because one doesn't get to decide to method of discussion doesn't mean there aren't differences between those methods.
