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iMac is a RIP OFF

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Eidorian said:
Dell had the U2711 down to ~$800 for Christmas. Even then you are still looking at some margin. There is a lot of padding based on the quality of IPS displays. Not to mention the size.

1080p displays are a dime a dozen, even the eIPS/IPS ones.
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Yeah well, you can always look at MacMall and other resellers, they often give you something like 100$ off (and no tax). The bottom line is that OP can't say that his 22" 1080p TN-panel monitor is comparable to the one in iMac. He is comparing apples to oranges.
 
Hellhammer said:
Yeah well, you can always look at MacMall and other resellers, they often give you something like 100$ off (and no tax). The bottom line is that OP can't say that his 22" 1080p TN-panel monitor is comparable to the one in iMac. He is comparing apples to oranges.
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Quite true on that last comment.

Tom's Hardware took a look at LED vs. CCFL recently as well. CCFL is still the king for color accuracy.
 
appleater said:
Why are they putting mobile GPU's in a desktop? Why is there only an i5 option? Those exact same GPU's are what they should have put in the 15 and 17 MBPs. Mac is needs to up the ante a bit in their products if they want to compete with other rigs out there that are cheaper and have way better stuff.

Don't think your getting ripped off? I just built a myself a sandybridge desktop with 4gs of them a 6750 for 500$, I'll go buy a 720 monitor for $100 and I'm still paying half than what those jackals want. BTW its going to be a hackintosh ; )

Maybe if apple wasn't burning all their money in advertising they could actually build us better more affordable macs.
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You built crap though compared to an iMac.

Your $100 monitor will be crap.

I'd guess that most of the components will be crap.

Good luck getting your Hackintosh to run Lion.



The 6750M is not a horrible GPU is it?. I didn't think so. It seems like it should be more than enough for a 1900x1080 display. Unless you bootcamp, what can you do now or in the next year that will really stress it?
 
Eidorian said:
Frankly, I believe everyone is overestimating the cost of the panel. If everyone else can pull off the IPS premium, it is a joke for Apple to do it.
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Every manufacturer of 27" monitors that run at 2560x1440 are right around $1000

Dell's is $1000 and made out of plastic, not aluminum.
 
Sunday Ironfoot said:
To be fair, they're the fastest mobile GPU's on the market (especially the 6970 one), the sort that you see in those insanely huge Alienware laptops. And they're a lot faster than previous gen. It's what I was expecting, I am happy :)

You can BTO a Core i7.

Also yes, please show us the specs of this $500 PC you're building.
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Actually they're not the fastest mobile GPU's. Nvidia has the lead there. But they are the fastest AMD GPU's available.
 
hifoo45 said:
Every manufacturer of 27" monitors that run at 2560x1440 are right around $1000

Dell's is $1000 and made out of plastic, not aluminum.
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You also get picture-in-picture, enough inputs to blow your mind, and a card reader.

You should see it when it is on sale for just under $800. That might be too much effort for some. I wonder if iSuppli has looked into it. What is left? R&D? Marketing?

When was the last Cinema Display commercial, etc.?
 
Eidorian said:
Frankly, I believe everyone is overestimating the cost of the panel. If everyone else can pull off the IPS premium, it is a joke for Apple to do it.
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But they cant. And I dont know why everyone is feeding this troll.

27" Dell IPS panel is $1000. No one is cheaper than Dell.

So what everyone is saying is that the 27" monitor is $1000 all by itself.

So then you are paying an additional $700 for a 3.1 i5 Mac.
 
Badger^2 said:
But they cant. And I dont know why everyone is feeding this troll.

27" Dell IPS panel is $1000. No one is cheaper than Dell.

So what everyone is saying is that the 27" monitor is $1000 all by itself.

So then you are paying an additional $700 for a 3.1 i5 Mac.
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No...you are paying $700 for a 2.7 i5 iMac....and $1,000 for the 3.1 i5.
 
kfscoll said:
Huh. I beg to differ. To wit, here are prices for comparable components if one wanted to built an "iMac killer" themselves:

  • Core i7-2600 - $250
  • P67 motherboard - $125
  • 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz SO-DIMM RAM - $50
  • SuperDrive - $50
  • 27" 2560x1440 IPS LED monitor - $1000
  • 2TB HDD - $100
  • 350W PSU - $50
  • generic case - $50
  • Apple Magic Mouse - $70
  • Apple Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard - $70
  • 256GB SSD - $500
  • AMD HD 6850 1GB (roughly comparable to HD 6970M) - $175
  • OS X - $30
  • TOTAL - $2745 plus tax
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To make it more fair price-wise, you should include premium quality PSU (100$+) and premium-quality aluminium case like Lian-Li (150$+) ;)
 
Xil3 said:
This is coming from someone that clearly doesn't have the mental capacity to see past the Mac line of products - go figure. Just because someone has an opinion that differs from your own, doesn't mean they are narrow minded - you're just ignorant.

If they released a vibrating paper weight with an Apple logo, would you defend it to no end? I'm guessing so.... for a low low price of 1200$

And yes I do own Mac products, but I'm not completely shut off to everything else.
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The dude said the following: "It shouldn't have a mobile GPU in it, period." That is a clear example of narrow-minded thinking. He forgets completely that the iMac, despite being a desktop, has a unique thin design that will have heating issues if a desktop GPU is used. Saying desktop = desktop, always, without exception, is narrow minded.

So please spare me the fanboy accusations.
 
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kfscoll said:
Huh. I beg to differ. To wit, here are prices for comparable components if one wanted to built an "iMac killer" themselves:

  • Core i7-2600 - $250
  • P67 motherboard - $125
  • 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz SO-DIMM RAM - $50 (timing?)
  • SuperDrive - $50
  • 27" 2560x1440 IPS LED monitor - $1000 (contrast ratio?)
  • 2TB HDD - $100
  • 350W PSU - $50
  • generic case - $50 (make it aluminium)
  • Apple Magic Mouse - $70
  • Apple Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard - $70 (usb bluetooth STR?)
  • 256GB SSD - $500
  • AMD HD 6850 1GB (roughly comparable to HD 6970M) - $175
  • OS X - $30
  • TOTAL - $2745 plus tax

I bought the following computer:
  • 3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
  • 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
  • 2TB Serial ATA Drive+256GB SSD
  • AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5
  • APPLE MAGIC MOUSE
  • Apple WL Kybd (English)+User's
  • COUNTRY KIT,IMAC
  • TOTAL - $2844 plus tax

but I upgraded to a 2GB video card and I get Thunderbolt which isn't available on the DIY configuration. Plus, I get a warranty and Apple support. IMHO I think the iMacs are very reasonably priced.
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sorry I had to nerd out on your post a little :p
 
if you want a desktop gpu,buy a mac pro!!!

sure it seems unsound,but,logically,space is the issue,

anyway, its getting better and better each issue they bring out,mite as well be grateful for more powerful options.
no 1 makes you buy it,
 
OP... Obvious lurker. Total drive by..
Liberal definition of "desktop" when all-in-one would be appropriate. All chill and enjoy the benchmark postings by capable folks.. Then do your $ per throughput analysis.
 
I've said this once (maybe 20 times) on this forum how I have been gaming for years with an "obselete" iMac while all my buds who have the "uber" machines have nothing but problem after problem. I may have half the specs, but my machine works every time. That's satisfaction and piece of mind. Hard to set a price on that.

Until I'm proven wrong my money is with :apple:
 
Xil3 said:
This is coming from someone that clearly doesn't have the mental capacity to see past the Mac line of products - go figure. Just because someone has an opinion that differs from your own, doesn't mean they are narrow minded - you're just ignorant.

If they released a vibrating paper weight with an Apple logo, would you defend it to no end? I'm guessing so.... for a low low price of 1200$

And yes I do own Mac products, but I'm not completely shut off to everything else.
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Desktop cards won't accommodate the form. It's a fairly simple concept.
 
I'd like to point out that the next best AIO is the HP TouchSmart 610 Quad
i7-880 (3.06GHz)
8GB DDR3 (1066MHz)
2TB (7200 rpm)
Radeon HD 5570
$2,378.98

21.5-inch iMac
2.7GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
2TB SATA Drive
Radeon HD 6770M
$1,849.00

I can't believe Mac users are such retard that they pay -$529.98 in Apple tax... :eek:
 
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