Secondly the memory being used is Hynix which isn't one of the higher end brands of memory. Why not use Crucial which is probably the best memory on the market.
This last sentence should have a question mark. Poor punctuation. Also, Crucial RAM was manufactured by the IMFT (Intel Micron Flash Technologies) which is ending this year, as announced on January 8th. (
https://newsroom.intel.com/news-rel...update-nand-memory-joint-development-program/)
I worked for Apple in the past doing quality assurance control and reporting as well as helping engineer a few products. (Known as EFFA - Early Field Failure Analysis) A LARGE majority of the machines use Hynix, now SK Hynix after they absorbed Elpida of Japan, and SK Hynix is the SECOND largest supplier of RAM in the world, behind only Samsung. (
https://www.statista.com/statistics...venues-of-semiconductor-companies-since-2010/) Apple keeps CRAZY records on what fails and what doesn't. I personally have a 2007 White MacBook that has Hynix DDR2-667 that still runs like a champ and has never had the memory replaced.
You might think my post was invalid but it was merely my opinion and if you read the post correctly there is validity to what I said. We can agree to disagree!
[doublepost=1516673121][/doublepost]Hynix isn't the best memory and all I was saying is that Apple should use the best memory for the prices they charge.
Have you ever researched some of the aftermarket brands that offer higher clock speed RAM? A vast majority use an SK Hynix memory chip. Example - G.Skill Ripjaws
Also what I said about the memory holds water but many people have twisted what I said about the Hynix memory on this forum. Wording such as sub par is one example. I never said that. All I said is Hynix isn't a higher end of memory and not of great quality. Again this statement has been completely twisted by members on this forum. I also pre-ficed my post with a statement that said Apple makes great products but this is overlooked.
How does anything that you said about SK Hynix memory hold water? It must hold water in a waterless lake or pond.
What I have learned is there are a lot of forum bullies here and you are one of them. I didn't work myself into a frenzy but everyone else did over my post. That is fine as everyone is entitled to participate in this discussion but to get personally attacked over a thread I started isn't necessary.
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Yes, the CPU's are under clocked and that is a fact.
There aren't any bullies in this forum. They are simply calling out your false and baseless opinion as just that: false and baseless. If you think that is bullying, then you sir have a thin skin.
The CPUs are not underclocked. They were co-designed/engineered by Apple and Intel in a partnership specifically for the iMac Pro and if you still think they are "underclocked" then I will let you remain a fool because there is no sense in arguing with a fool.
The bottom line is Apple does take shortcuts with their computers and in fact Apple has brainwashed everyone into believing they are the best of the best. It is a fact that the processor is under clocked. Maybe Apple has a valid reason for this which from what I have read has to do with the cooling system. Why not have a processor that isn't under clocked and provide the proper cooling system. They use memory from different manufacturers and the quality differs between manufacturers. This is a fact and all you have to do is to google the information about different brands of memory to validate this. Yes some of the IMac Pro machines have Micron memory but you have to get 64GB or more to get this brand. You get the base machine and you will end up with Hynix. I will also say that Apple uses one of the best flash storage drives if not the best. My point is to use the best of everything and not just on certain components.
FACT: you don't understand, AT ALL, what goes into the engineering of a system of this caliber, period. If you did, you'd understand that it takes time and sometimes it takes having one your suppliers, in this case Intel, creating a custom part just for you. Dell & HP have this done by Intel for their server lines.
FACT: Companies as large as Apple (ie. Dell, HP, IBM, Sun, etc) all have multiple suppliers of components (HDD, RAM, Optical Drive...they still exist) and use them throughout their product lines. This is simple business: get bids from each supplier and have them bid against each other. Any Apple computer, desktop or notebook, will have any of the following suppliers for RAM - Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron, Nanya (much less now), and Elpida before Hynix bought them. I know all of this first hand because as I mentioned, I worked for Apple. What you call facts about the "quality" of different manufacturers is subjective. These are products designed by humans, manufactured by machines based on human design, and can have faults. So I guess the Toshiba NAND in the iOS devices isn't quality because they don't produce a RAM chip...?!? Really?!?
FACT: SSDs were supplied by three companies at one point in time: Samsung, Toshiba, and SanDisk. Once Samsung came out with the SM951, Apple went to Samsung pretty much exclusively. Once Apple acquired the Israeli firm Anobit in December 2011, they began working on their own NVMe Storage controller. It is custom to them and uses either SanDisk or Toshiba NAND on certain SSDs. The iMac Pro from what I've seen in screenshots and the iFixIt teardown is Samsung NAND and the Apple NVMe controller is more than likely based on the SSPOLARIS or SSPHOENIX Samsung NVMe Controller.
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Certainly I can't see where they get their retail price for the iMac Pro as it seems to about $2k over priced for the spec.
Price Comparison by Digital Trends (Mind you the Dell only has 10-Cores and only 3TB of NVMe storage)
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/maxed-imac-pro-costs-over-13k-but-what-can-you-get-on-pc/