Could it be that the new iMacs ship with an outdated OS X installed, while the version on the Install CDs might be newer? So far it seems that people that have formatted and reinstalled OS X, don't have any problems with freezing. Could that be why mine stopped freezing after installing the OS on the CDs?
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iMac Problems????? Is Apple becoming Microsoft?
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Well, they are certainly much more qualified than you or I. The qualifications are quite demanding and expect something that neither you or I could ever provide.
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They must be willing to work for less than 50 cents a day.
That's not very likely. Most people re-install from scratch so that they can choose the options and determine the exact installation method and such.
Myself, I do it simply to deselect all the foreign language stuff since I only speak and read one language. And, I also deselect the Microsoft Office trial, and iWork Trial, and such.
But, I have never found a case in the past where there was actually an issue with the pre-installed OS. And, I've never seen them use a prior version to pre-install.
Not saying it's impossible. But, it would be pretty unlikely.
You could check the build version prior to re-installing and then check the build version immediately after booting with a fresh install and see what they say though.
How so? I have a degree in electronics, have used macs for two decades and have worked on my own machines for years, I doubt the average factory line worker making Macs in China have degrees but I have been wrong before.
I think you missed the point
I have more experience in the electronics field than just about any tech you'll find in a service shop. I have experience working on the circuit level and repairing things on said circuit level rather than replacing the component part.
I'm one of the few people that you could bring something to, and have me replace the exact individual piece that failed rather than the whole controller card. I'll replace / repair chips, circuits, resistors, surface mount IC's / components, and repair traces. I've spent more time than I could count behind a soldering iron working on parts that required magnification to even see. I even had a business for a while (which I later sold) designing electronic devices and computer accessories (from my own circuit designs) and manufacturing and distributing them myself (including producing / etching my own circuit boards, cases, etc., and all the assembly work through to the end product). I later sold the company when I no longer had the time to keep up on the orders and manufacturing.
The point of my statement was not that they are more highly skilled. But, that they meet the one requirement that none of us could possibly meet.
Now, read carefully. The qualification they possess, is that they are...
... willing to work for less than 50 cents a day.
There you go. That's the single characteristic that makes them more qualified than any of us to build these expensive computers.
I would suspect that 95% of the Mac is assembled by machines and that goes for applying the thermal paste. Humans probably just snap stuff together (and keep the machines running).
flyinmac I did miss your point 100%, I get it now I really would like to find out what the deal is. Over at appleinsider they had a thread about a known issue with white imacs with boot camp and Apple taking a year before fessing up. Guess ill just keep waiting to see what happens or if new Pro's show.
I really would like to find out what the deal is. Over at appleinsider they had a thread about a known issue with white imacs with boot camp and Apple taking a year before fessing up. Guess ill just keep waiting to see what happens or if new Pro's show.I have not read all the posts, but I have a 24" 2.8Ghz 4G iMac w/wireless mouse and have not had any lock-ups until this morning. I have not read all the posts of this thread. I was just browsing a website in Firefox (no other apps open) and all of a sudden nothing responded. When I dragged my mouse over the dock, the icons magnified but nothing happened. I was all set to power off/on but thought I would try turning my wireless mouse off/on (flip the cover over the optical sensor on the bottom) first. I did this and got the message on the display that connection was lost to the mouse. I waited about 20 sec and flipped the cover open. Waited a couple of secs for it to re-establish communication and everything is working great again. No more lock up!
Maybe worth a try to those having problems.
Again, I must admit, I have not kept up with all reported problems with the freezing issue. This may be relevant and may not be, but just thought I would post just in case it can help someone out.
Maybe worth a try to those having problems.
Again, I must admit, I have not kept up with all reported problems with the freezing issue. This may be relevant and may not be, but just thought I would post just in case it can help someone out.
You're talking about a completely different problem here. Appreciate you trying to help, but irrelivant for most people here.
Anyway, I'm still getting occasional freezing, and I actually tried everything there is to do. SMCFanControl, don't update to 1.1, update to 1.1, reinstall/repair OS X, format and reinstall OS X, rollback from 1.1 to 1.0.. yet it still freezes from time to time. I seriously hope a fix is coming soon, or that it'll be fixed wityh Leopard.
Anyway, I'm still getting occasional freezing, and I actually tried everything there is to do. SMCFanControl, don't update to 1.1, update to 1.1, reinstall/repair OS X, format and reinstall OS X, rollback from 1.1 to 1.0.. yet it still freezes from time to time. I seriously hope a fix is coming soon, or that it'll be fixed wityh Leopard.
flyinmac I did miss your point 100%, I get it now
No problem
The simple fact is that almost everything that costs a fortune is built by people who make nothing putting it together.
And, with people who have no reason to take pride in what they do, why would we expect that the finished product would be of any quality.
Pride in a job well done is what gets top quality products produced.
Simply sitting around in a gloomy environment working for nothing breeds nothing but people going through the motions and slapping something together.
I can feel your pain on the denial of a problem situation. I went through many rounds of that with the iMacs. Of course, after I finally got tired of dealing with the problems, and being unable to use the machines, I sold them. And, sure enough, after selling them at a huge loss, Apple comes forward and says (about a year too late) that they finally admit a problem exists. Thanks for caring enough to help me when I needed it Apple
I think they tend to wait until enough people have thrown the machines in the dump before they admit a problem exists. Then, there will be fewer people to file a claim.
Can't argue with that -- but I believe you left out the most important part.
Quality is a MANAGEMENT responsibility. If the workers have "no reason to take pride in what they do" and are forced to work "in a gloomy environment," that's the way Apple management has chosen to run the business.
If $0.50/hr assembly droids have insufficient pride of workmanship, it's ONLY because Apple execs with 7-figure salaries take even less pride in delivering a quality product. Just as you said...
..."pride in a job well done is what gets top quality products produced."
LK
It kind of sucks that so many posts at Apple were deleted by Apple when they had problems and issues with new units. We should demand perfection from machines that costs so much. I know I wont plop down any money until these things are fixed or rev B shows or some super duper new PowerMac is released. PowerMac sounds better to me. Come on Apple stop screwing around.