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For those affected by iMac (AL) freezing issues, do you have 3rd party RAM installed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 17.3%
  • No

    Votes: 77 26.6%
  • N/A (not freezing, don't have an aluminum iMac)

    Votes: 162 56.1%

  • Total voters
    289
I'm starting to wonder if the iMac freezing issue isn't actually a hardware problem. It seems like a lot of the early aluminum iMacs were affected by this issue. Aluminum iMacs that have shipped in recent weeks seem much more stable. Mine has yet to lock up after a week of hard use.

Maybe some of the early Aluminum iMacs got a bad batch of Radeon 2600s? It wouldn't be unprecedented, seeing as the original Radeon X1900XTs that shipped with the Mac Pro were faulty.

Got mine Aug 22nd. No freezing
 
Don't fear the update

Well, don't fear the update if you're not getting any freezing. I had none before (it's frozen once in 3 months of heavy use and I'd put that down as a random crash), I've used tiger and now leopard for a week or so. I've installed all of the updates including the last one, and no sign of a glitch. So no need to avoid installing it if you don't have any problem.

If anyone's trying to figure out which macs are affected, mine was bought early august, it was a 2.8ghz with 1gb (now upgraded to 4gb by my self, non-apple ram). I had a few issues in Tiger initially (things being slow or buggy, NOT freezing), but each update has improved it until it seems to run pretty much perfectly now.
 
i installed 1.2 on my super duper drive so as not to mess up my main drive. took a few min. but i got it to freeze on the screen saver. i am calling apple care now to get this fixed. also the bar code under the title screens on imovie 06 was still there after 1.2. what's the point of having a title screen if it looks like crap ?
 
We bought ours August 15th. Last week it was freezing about 20 times a day....and it wasn't even during hard use. We stripped it down to nothing, did the erase and install, added the Software Update 1.1, and it started freezing again. So we stripped it down AGAIN, did another erase and install and didn't add the 1.1 update and it ran like a dream. Didn't freeze once....first time in two months. I installed 1.2 this morning. It's freezing again. It has to be their software updates. I love Macs, have never had a problem with my little MacBook. This Mac I want to throw out the window.
 
not sure if its been posted already, but this update does not fix the issues with madden 08. Well at least not for the Leopard update on a 24" 2.4C2D.
 
First let me say I am a long time mac user and this is my first time I have been in this type of situation with a mac.

I purchased my iMac in August. I am running a Al iMac 2.4ghz with 1gig stock RAM
Here is my situation
10.4.10 with iMac update 1.0 = no freezes in OS (a couple of times in games but i can deal with that)
10.4.10 with iMac update 1.1 = numerous freezes a day in OS
So I reinstalled and skipped the 1.1 update
Leopard was released and knowing the risks I went for it and was surprised by results
10.5 installed = no freezes in OS (one or 2 in games but I can deal with that)
So today i decided to take the risk and install the 1.3 update
10.5 with iMac 1.3 update = 2 blackscreen freezes, 3 regular freezes. All in the OS. Simply navigating the doc.

*Bangs head against the wall*
 
10.5 installed = no freezes in OS (one or 2 in games but I can deal with that)
So today i decided to take the risk and install the 1.3 update
10.5 with iMac 1.3 update = 2 blackscreen freezes, 3 regular freezes. All in the OS. Simply navigating the doc.

*Bangs head against the wall*


Can't you just roll the update back somehow? Rather than reload?
 
Dear Apple,
Why don't you just seed the updates to a few of the consumers first and then we'll give you feedback and let you know that what you are doing isn't helping one effing bit? What's the point of releasing software that doesn't fix the problem?

My iMac has been stable after Leopard but I'm not installing these updates...
I find your comments a bit much, and overly mean as well. :mad:

A few points worth noting:

- If upgrading to Leopard made your machine "stable" then you are not experiencing the same freezing problem. So maybe you should not comment if you are not able to say anything of worth.

- It's stupid not install the updates; hardly ever has an update from Apple made the problem worse. It's your choice not to do so, but it indicates you don't know much about how these things work.

- The problem is with the hard/firm/software of the ATI graphics chip, so pissing on Apple about it is hardly fair of you. (same goes for half the comments on this thread)

- Early reports are that the update has fixed *some* of the freezing issues.

I don't understand how ATI is getting no blame for this and Apple is getting roasted alive. :confused:
 
i feel sorry for imac users i hope its not a hardware problem. i think .1 will be out in 2/3 weeks. lets all wait for that huge download . hmm :apple:
 
I don't understand how ATI is getting no blame for this and Apple is getting roasted alive. :confused:

Because it is Apple's choice to put the card in there. Because Apple sold the ATI card to us. Because the warranty says Apple is responsible for ALL the hardware in the computer regardless of origin. I wish people would stop this nonsense of "Its not Apple's fault it's ATI's/low wages in China/global warming/Al Gore". Regardless of who's fault it is, Apple is the one who is responsible. I bet Apple is giving ATI some stick about this, if that makes you happy.
 
24" 2.8 purchased on the 9th of September, have not experienced a single crash with any updated, great computer!
:apple::apple:
 
I don't understand how ATI is getting no blame for this and Apple is getting roasted alive. :confused:

Because Apple, not ATI are selling the machines.

If the brakes failed on your Mercedes you'd blame Mercedes but I guarantee you Mercedes did not make all the parts involved.
 
OK, this is WEIRD!

The computer has worked fine now for the last few hours. I even played WoW and the performance was better than before. After some initial crashes the game played without a hitch.

This is what I am seeing, in regards to Leopard.

A new patch is applied and for some reason it takes time to fully implement itself. Bizarre, right? Happened when I upgraded to Leopard. The system crashed and then over the next few days and hours became more and more stable.

I'm not saying I am not going to crash again, but perhaps there is some stability with the video card and maybe we are seeing OS issues? Patch the card, then the OS? Is there background indexing going on? Do changes take affect to certain parts of the system in a sequential order? I dunno. For now. Things are A-OK.


Man... At first I thought you were crazy...

But I rebooted again, and played with front row for about 10 minutes, going through all the menus, playing music while going through the menus, and fast forwarding a 720p movie plus a few other small tests, and I must say that I have NOT been able to freeze my iMac! I'm not going to get over excited, I'm going to continue testing this out first. :)
 
I have my Alu iMac since early September and have not had any freezes or any problems whatsoever. Its weird that some do and some don't, is it a certain batch that was made on a Monday or something like that?
 
Ok I was under NDA but after reading the latest email from Apple I'm half tempted to break it because I'm pretty po'd that this was released when the patch was known to NOT fully work.

I will however keep it quite until I hear I am no longer under NDA.

Until then I think I'm gonna go for a swap/exchange on my iMac.
 
it will freeze again. just give it time. i called up apple care, spent about 90 min. total on the line. did the usual disk permissions ect. stuff. still froze on front row.

they gave me 2 choices, they would ship me a box and i would send it back and they would send me a loaner or have someone come out and replace the graphics card. i choose having someone come out and replace the card.


hopefully this will fix the problem i have in imovie 06 i am getting weird graphic glitches on themes. go to "reflection - white" theme, click on the "open" theme, when title 1 appears near the end i get some sort of bar code looking thing instead of a title 1 reflection. if i type something in it goes away, only to reappear when i add it to my timeline. this is really irritating me. also occasionally when i add clips they will be all distorted. quicktime does the same thing.


does this imovie thing happen to anyone else with good cards ?
 
Grrrr...

So annoying this isn't available for my Intel Core 2 Duo 17" Intel Graphics iMac.
Im experiencing so many graphics related problems. My dock is jerky as it appears with magnification and sometimes without. Transitions and animation lag. This really ruins the UI. Hope they will bring out an update soon.
 
I have an appointment with a Mac Genius Later this evening...

I hope they decide to give me a new computer...

Sorry, i must have missed a post by you somewhere amongst all the fuss in here lately. But I thought you confirmed your iMac had a problem with 3rd party ram?
Either way, good luck!

And for those saying "Don't blame Apple" You have to be kidding...
 
I don't understand how ATI is getting no blame for this and Apple is getting roasted alive. :confused:

Because it's Apple engineers developing the drivers, testing them, Apple users beta testing them (or so we thought) and Apple making the desicion to release said drivers.

Knowing that apple beta testers, users who probably like you and me report back findings and Apple still makes desicion to release said drivers.

Now what exactly did ATI do? Apple Engineers are developing the drivers not ATI.
 
I have an aluminum iMac. I have 3rd party RAM. I installed it myself and not through an Apple reseller/certified tech.

The only freezing that I have noticed is that (I'm a recent Windows switcher), in general, the Mac UI is NOT multi-threaded and does NOT deal very well with reporting errors. Most often, if an app experiences a wait it simply locks up... It locks the universal menu bar. It locks it's own window. And if that App happens to be Finder, then there's no hope. Also, apps have a tendency to simply "disappear" rather than reporting any kind of error and, so far, I haven't found any central place to go find out about what those errors could be (probably a console log somewhere...).

The console app or looking at the logs in system profiler work, though the console tends to show all the logs, instead of the select few that system profiler does.

At least with the recent updates, killing off some apps, and the prebinding run -- I'm back to a reasonable amount of entries in the log.
 
I just installed Leopard on another partition and Leopard is asking me to install the 1.3 update. However, i already installed it on my main partition (Tiger). Do i still need to install 1.3 for Leopard?

By the way i don't have the freezing issue
 
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