iPhone IMEI Unlock Sites

[shenan1982]

I heard for the past 2-3 days all unlockers had issues cause AT&T is trying to make it very hard and nearly close all loopholes to those 3rd party unlock suppliers.
I think unlockfusion/swiftunlocks just posted an AT&T iphone unlock service back online.

Yeah, weird Swiftunlocks doesn't post a timeframe for their service. I don't like that. Trying to point a friend in a direction to get an unlock. When a service provider doesn't give a written timeframe to a guarantee, it sets them up for trouble with PayPal and Credit Card Issuers... It says "no refunds" which is illegal in the US on an intangible without a delivery timeframe, so I suppose I just tell my friend to buy the unlock and open a case with paypal or his CC if the unlock doesn't happen in a couple days. Seems odd they would have no idea when the process will happen even though they chose to put it back on the site to take orders. Guess wait and see.

 

[Applejuiced]

Yeah, weird Swiftunlocks doesn't post a timeframe for their service. I don't like that. Trying to point a friend in a direction to get an unlock. When a service provider doesn't give a written timeframe to a guarantee, it sets them up for trouble with PayPal and Credit Card Issuers... It says "no refunds" which is illegal in the US on an intangible without a delivery timeframe, so I suppose I just tell my friend to buy the unlock and open a case with paypal or his CC if the unlock doesn't happen in a couple days. Seems odd they would have no idea when the process will happen even though they chose to put it back on the site to take orders. Guess wait and see.

You can always do a chargeback but if they cannot unlock it they usually issue you a refund if the service goes down.
Not that if it doesn't get unlocked in under 2 days you get a refund and still get it unlocked.
If that's the case and it gets unlocked and then you open a case they usually then go back and blacklist the IMEI.

 

[shenan1982]

You can always do a chargeback but if they cannot unlock it they usually issue you a refund if the service goes down.
Not that if it doesn't get unlocked in under 2 days you get a refund and still get it unlocked.

If that's the case and it gets unlocked and then you open a case they usually then go back and blacklist the IMEI.

I can say with 100% certainty they can NOT legally blacklist an IMEI without proper justification. That's absolutely illegal.

A credit card issuer is legally entitled to place any item or service they're not satisfied with into dispute. The only way a blacklist can occur is if a) the phone is stolen, or b) if a bill is not paid. Any other reason would be completely illegal as "pissing off someone who sells a (technically) illegal or walking-the-grey-line unlock service" is not a valid reason. It would basically be like if you get an oil change on your car and are not satisfied with the service and charge back, the oil change company reporting your car stolen. There's no logic to it.

 

[Applejuiced]

I can say with 100% certainty they can NOT legally blacklist an IMEI without proper justification. That's absolutely illegal.

A credit card issuer is legally entitled to place any item or service they're not satisfied with into dispute. The only way a blacklist can occur is if a) the phone is stolen, or b) if a bill is not paid. Any other reason would be completely illegal as "pissing off someone who sells a (technically) illegal or walking-the-grey-line unlock service" is not a valid reason. It would basically be like if you get an oil change on your car and are not satisfied with the service and charge back, the oil change company reporting your car stolen. There's no logic to it.

I don't know, I'm just letting you know what many IMEI unlockers post on their site.
They're not supposed to be legally whitelisting your IMEI either but they somehow have access and do it
I wouldn't risk it trying to screw them over only to get my phone blacklisted. Up to you though.

 

[shenan1982]

I don't know, I'm just letting you know what many IMEI unlockers post on their site.
They're not supposed to be legally whitelisting your IMEI either but they somehow have access and do it
I wouldn't risk it trying to screw them over only to get my phone blacklisted. Up to you though.

They love the "no refunds, no money back, regardless of errors" all of which are illegal and against the terms of PayPal and against the terms of Visa and Mastercard.

At the end of the day, it's shady when a company says "We will unlock your phone within 1-2 days" and they don't. A buyer has a right to refund, or rescind the transaction.

 

[Applejuiced]

They love the "no refunds, no money back, regardless of errors" all of which are illegal and against the terms of PayPal and against the terms of Visa and Mastercard.

At the end of the day, it's shady when a company says "We will unlock your phone within 1-2 days" and they don't. A buyer has a right to refund, or rescind the transaction.

I don't know about illegal or against Paypal terms.
All you gotta do is make sure you give the correct IMEI cause most likely they get charged when someone enters a wrong IMEI in the database and when they gotta go back and submit the corrected imei its costs them money.
If you don't agree with their terms then you don't have to do business with them.
I think right now the pressure is on and the AT&T IMEI unlock loopholes are closing one by one.
The system gets turned off and updated for security reasons so if they get locked out and cant do it withing 2 days and takes a few days longer there isn't much they can do about it.
Im sure they want to unlock more phones and faster to make money but simply they cannot and sometimes delays happen.

 

[shenan1982]

I don't know about illegal or against Paypal terms.
All you gotta do is make sure you give the correct IMEI cause most likely they get charged when someone enters a wrong IMEI in the database and when they gotta go back and submit the corrected imei its costs them money.
If you don't agree with their terms then you don't have to do business with them.
I think right now the pressure is on and the AT&T IMEI unlock loopholes are closing one by one.
The system gets turned off and updated for security reasons so if they get locked out and cant do it withing 2 days and takes a few days longer there isn't much they can do about it.
Im sure they want to unlock more phones and faster to make money but simply they cannot and sometimes delays happen.

Yeah, I get it with the "stuff happens" but it always comes down to the responsible businesses under promise and over deliver. They're entering into a binding contract when they accept money with a product description of "iPhone Unlock within 1-2 days" .. it's a term stated clearly that someone enters into the agreement of sale based solely on that advertised fact.

If they want to avoid chargebacks, they would be better off saying "10-12 days, iPhone Unlock" and that way they would protect themselves from falling short of their commitment, and would have more ground to stand on as a defense. But committing that timeframe would likely cost them business. It's a bit of a shady industry to begin with, so they've got to pick a position somewhere in the middle where they can either get less business based on realistic (conservative) delivery commitments, or deal with more chargebacks. At the end of the day a credit card issuer cares about 1 thing, did the merchant deliver the product or service per the conditions of the sale, and the conditions of the sale state a timeframe, of which if not met, the seller didn't meet.

 

[Applejuiced]

Yeah, I get it with the "stuff happens" but it always comes down to the responsible businesses under promise and over deliver. They're entering into a binding contract when they accept money with a product description of "iPhone Unlock within 1-2 days" .. it's a term stated clearly that someone enters into the agreement of sale based solely on that advertised fact.

If they want to avoid chargebacks, they would be better off saying "10-12 days, iPhone Unlock" and that way they would protect themselves from falling short of their commitment, and would have more ground to stand on as a defense. But committing that timeframe would likely cost them business. It's a bit of a shady industry to begin with, so less business based on realistic (conservative) delivery commitments, or deal with more chargebacks. At the end of the day a credit card isthey've got to pick a position somewhere in the middle where they can either get suer cares about 1 thing, did the merchant deliver the product or service per the conditions of the sale, and the conditions of the sale state a timeframe, of which if not met, the seller didn't meet.

I hear you, its a shady industry cause technically its not 100% legal what they're doing.
I'd rather buy a full priced or officially unlocked iphone instead of having to deal with something like this.
And you never know, they might completely shut down the black market AT&T IMEI unlock business soon.

 

[shenan1982]

I hear you, its a shady industry cause technically its not 100% legal what they're doing.
I'd rather buy a full priced or officially unlocked iphone instead of having to deal with something like this.
And you never know, they might completely shut down the black market AT&T IMEI unlock business soon.

Yeah. I agree.

I hope the government intervenes and just gets rid of the whole locking policy, it's so stupid, ATT can't even logically explain it to me. They say they lock because otherwise people will just buy and then split. I say "isn't that what a credit check is for?" and they say they've lowered their standards, so I say well that's something that probably should be reviewed. LOL. Never try to logic with ATT

 

[Applejuiced]

Yeah. I agree.

I hope the government intervenes and just gets rid of the whole locking policy, it's so stupid, ATT can't even logically explain it to me. They say they lock because otherwise people will just buy and then split. I say "isn't that what a credit check is for?" and they say they've lowered their standards, so I say well that's something that probably should be reviewed. LOL. Never try to logic with ATT

Exactly.
It doesn't make any sense.
This whole locking thing is a big scam and the government lets them get away with it most likely cause they pocket tons of contribution money from AT&T.

 

[shenan1982]

Exactly.
It doesn't make any sense.
This whole locking thing is a big scam and the government lets them get away with it most likely cause they pocket tons of contribution money from AT&T.

OMG, for the first time ever, you and I are 100% in agreement, hehehe.

 

[Applejuiced]

OMG, for the first time ever, you and I are 100% in agreement, hehehe.

Its scary
lol

 

[justabrake]

Ok, cool, thanks for the clarification.

I haven't heard from anyone who's successfully been unlocked in the last day or two. I'm wondering what the current state of unlock capability is.

Funny story, I ported a number out of AT&T and need the phone unlocked. So I called ATT, and of course they quoted the policy. I said, fine, I am paying an early term fee so please unlock. They said I have to pay it first. I said ok charge my card, here's my payment info. They said they can't charge my card because I haven't been billed yet. I said that makes no sense, you billed me the second I ported out. They said well no paper bill has been sent yet. So I said okay so due to your system limitation I can't get unlocked because you can't take a payment until you mail a bill? They said well yes sort of. So I said okay how do you know if a payment is for a specific term fee then? In other words, if I cancel 4 lines on one account, and am charged 4 early term fees, and I pay 1, how do you know which I'm paying? The question absolutely stumped them.

Perfect example of how awful AT&T is. After this experience I called back and cancelled 2 more lines, plus the iPad I had on the mobile share. I'm over ATT's anti-customer tactics. They had the nerve to say "Apple is the one to blame for locked phones because they make us sell them locked" ... and the same rep called me a liar when I told her T-Mo now includes global data roaming free in their plans now, and when I told her to go to T-Mobile.com she realized I was right she resorted to "well t-mobile sucks so there's no point in even talking about them" ... how low can ATT go?

I'm so disappointed. I'm happily paying early termination fees to get FAR FAR away from AT&T. It's gone from bad to downright anti-customer the way they operate their business.

But back on topic... if anyone knows of anyone or service where I can get this one 5s unlocked, please share. Need it done ASAP and don't care if it comes with a premium cost.

Thanks!

Let me get this right your saying you canceled your AT&T and they won't unlock or are you still waiting for them to unlock ?

I'm about to cancel my AT&T and want to go to pay as you go or something cheaper because I haven't been using the iphone that much ! I have like almost 1500 rollover minutes and used about 1200 mb's data

So my question is does AT&T unlock your phone when it's paid by the mailed ETF bill or Not ? what's the waiting time ?

why do you have to have a 3rd party to unlock something your paying for from AT&T ?

Thanks Not use to going outside AT&T since I've been with them and have a grandfathered unlimited Data

 

[shenan1982]

Let me get this right your saying you canceled your AT&T and they won't unlock or are you still waiting for them to unlock ?

I'm about to cancel my AT&T and want to go to pay as you go or something cheaper because I haven't been using the iphone that much ! I have like almost 1500 rollover minutes and used about 1200 mb's data

So my question is does AT&T unlock your phone when it's paid by the mailed ETF bill or Not ? what's the waiting time ?

why do you have to have a 3rd party to unlock something your paying for from AT&T ?

Thanks Not use to going outside AT&T since I've been with them and have a grandfathered unlimited Data

I'm saying they will unlock it, but not until they mail the bill (usually about a week after the end of the cycle, which is a week from now), and then they said once I am billed on the ETF and then pay it they can then submit the unlock. Ridiculous.

 

[esf]

Yeah, weird Swiftunlocks doesn't post a timeframe for their service. I don't like that. Trying to point a friend in a direction to get an unlock. When a service provider doesn't give a written timeframe to a guarantee, it sets them up for trouble with PayPal and Credit Card Issuers... It says "no refunds" which is illegal in the US on an intangible without a delivery timeframe, so I suppose I just tell my friend to buy the unlock and open a case with paypal or his CC if the unlock doesn't happen in a couple days. Seems odd they would have no idea when the process will happen even though they chose to put it back on the site to take orders. Guess wait and see.

Logged in just to tell you guys to avoid swiftunlocks. Im having a bad time with that "company" because they couldnt unlock my iphone and wants to give me credit on their site instead of giving my money back. I asked for a refund since they couldnt unlock my phones and just got a "NO REFUNDS" as answer. Then i told him i was going through paypal to recover my money then, he said "once you lose dispute we wouldnt give any money back", so they blocked my account and kept my money. I tried to argue saying he had to give my money back since he cant offer the service that i paid for and just had to read rude responses with a "NO REFUND". Beware of this company, i unlocked around 200 iphones with them since july and this is what i get now

 

[robotphood]

Ugh, so no viable unlocks right now? Why does this have to happen the first time I need to unlock a phone ha...

 

[esf]

Ugh, so no viable unlocks right now? Why does this have to happen the first time I need to unlock a phone ha...

I need to unlock 3 phones and i couldnt find a viable unlock yet...

 

[shenan1982]

Logged in just to tell you guys to avoid swiftunlocks. Im having a bad time with that "company" because they couldnt unlock my iphone and wants to give me credit on their site instead of giving my money back. I asked for a refund since they couldnt unlock my phones and just got a "NO REFUNDS" as answer. Then i told him i was going through paypal to recover my money then, he said "once you lose dispute we wouldnt give any money back", so they blocked my account and kept my money. I tried to argue saying he had to give my money back since he cant offer the service that i paid for and just had to read rude responses with a "NO REFUND". Beware of this company, i unlocked around 200 iphones with them since july and this is what i get now

Well the nice thing is paypal says it's against their policy to charge for a service and not deliver it, your credit card says it's against policy to charge for a service and not deliver in the timeframe specified, and the governments both federal and most states say if you charge for a product or service and can't deliver it then a full refund is due. Open and shut dispute.

These aren't "businesses" they're shady people trying to capitalize on others' weaknesses. Oh wait. That's Wall Street. Haha

 

[esf]

Well the nice thing is paypal says it's against their policy to charge for a service and not deliver it, your credit card says it's against policy to charge for a service and not deliver in the timeframe specified, and the governments both federal and most states say if you charge for a product or service and can't deliver it then a full refund is due. Open and shut dispute.

These aren't "businesses" they're shady people trying to capitalize on others' weaknesses. Oh wait. That's Wall Street. Haha

18-10-2013 20:04 PDT - Seller: CLEARLY IF YOU READ THE DARN SITE, IT STATES NO REFUNDS ON CREDITS.. SEEMS LIKE YOUR ILLITERATE AND JOIN A WHOLESALE SITE FOR NO DAMN REASON..

The funny thing is: there is nothing about "no refunds" in his site

 

[shenan1982]

The funny thing is: there is nothing about "no refunds" in his site

The very nature that he calls himself a "wholesale" when he's selling a QTY: 1 is funny. I wouldn't even communicate with him, I'd just open a dispute with the credit card company AND paypal.

 

[justabrake]

Logged in just to tell you guys to avoid swiftunlocks. Im having a bad time with that "company" because they couldnt unlock my iphone and wants to give me credit on their site instead of giving my money back. I asked for a refund since they couldnt unlock my phones and just got a "NO REFUNDS" as answer. Then i told him i was going through paypal to recover my money then, he said "once you lose dispute we wouldnt give any money back", so they blocked my account and kept my money. I tried to argue saying he had to give my money back since he cant offer the service that i paid for and just had to read rude responses with a "NO REFUND". Beware of this company, i unlocked around 200 iphones with them since july and this is what i get now

maybe safer to use a credit card now !

 

[shenan1982]

maybe safer to use a credit card now !

Safest is to use a credit card associated with PayPal. The credit card company sees PayPal and almost automatically assumes a shady deal, so the buyer almost always wins just on that alone.

 

[justabrake]

Safest is to use a credit card associated with PayPal. The credit card company sees PayPal and almost automatically assumes a shady deal, so the buyer almost always wins just on that alone.

I just got through with a dispute with bestvaluepetsupplies and got my money returned from paypal it took about 15 days but they reimburse me ! The company never shipped my heartguard medicine and it was 62.00 But I got it returned after escalating the dispute, But what a waste of time !

 

[shenan1982]

I just got through with a dispute with bestvaluepetsupplies and got my money returned from paypal it took about 15 days but they reimburse me ! The company never shipped my heartguard medicine and it was 62.00 But I got it returned after escalating the dispute, But what a waste of time !

Yeah, I agree, what a pain. Not sure why companies don't behave in a more customer supportive way, since inevitably the issue will come to a charge-back and they will always lose if they didn't deliver as promised.

 

[marioman38]

TIMING!

My gf dropped and broke her POS T-mobile mytouch 4G. OCT 20.

She asked around on Facebook and found someone selling an ATT iPhone 4 for $50 OCT 21st.

She bought it the next day OCT 22nd.

Seems as if thats like the exact day ATT started effing with unlockers and now we are screwed.



Hopefully I'll get a refund, I'm pretty sure it said "No Refunds" but c'mon this is an extenuating circumstance.