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xUKHCx

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IMPORTANT: Tonight @ midnight EST, there will be a special announcement and software release (not an unlocker). Please stay tuned for more details.

Wonder what it will be.
 
Maybe after years and years of man hours and hundreds of millions of dollars in development... they came out with their own phone that is even better then the iphone?

Insert snark tag here.
 
so a completely irrelevant announcement by hackers that relates to hacking the iphone which not a whole lot of folks care about? on here atleast
 
so a completely irrelevant announcement by hackers that relates to hacking the iphone which not a whole lot of folks care about? on here atleast

Well i think more are interested than you think, if this enables the iPhone to be used on other networks for example or custom ringtones etc. etc.

I probably wont be around at 12AM est to post the outcome of the update.
 
so a completely irrelevant announcement by hackers that relates to hacking the iphone which not a whole lot of folks care about? on here atleast

I think you're making to assumptions...

I wouldn't say it's irrelevant because it relates to the iphone and its use.

You are right that not a whole lot of folks probably care about it, but if there was a place where they did....it would be on here.

Why don't you wait to see what he's got to say before you start hating.
 
wow, no info here...

link?

edit: posted at the same time.... nevermind, we will see.

Can't give direct links but you can easily find them if you look in the right places, eg search for hackintosh iPhone etc. etc.
 
so a completely irrelevant announcement by hackers that relates to hacking the iphone which not a whole lot of folks care about? on here atleast

I too am extremely interested. Why don't you take a poll before you speak for the rest of us, savvy?:rolleyes:
 
That's not correct. 12 is either noon or midnight, it isn't AM or PM.

Umm, what are you talking about?
noon=12PM
midnight=12AM

That's the way convention has it. That's how all the clocks in the world display it. If you don't like it, try not to give a pedantic answer as to how it's neither AM nor PM.

Thanks.
 
Umm, what are you talking about?
noon=12PM
midnight=12AM

That's the way convention has it. That's how all the clocks in the world display it. If you don't like it, try not to give a pedantic answer as to how it's neither AM nor PM.

Thanks.

I'm sorry, but you are simply wrong. 12 is either midnight or noon. AM means after midnight (ante-meridiem), PM means after noon (post-meridiem.) I was merely correcting someone who corrected something incorrectly, so the pedantry isn't just mine. It's just that mine is accurate while the other is not.

But don't take my word for it ...

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.17917
 
I'm sorry, but you are simply wrong. 12 is either midnight or noon. AM means after midnight (ante-meridiem), PM means after noon (post-meridiem.) I was merely correcting someone who corrected something incorrectly, so the pedantry isn't just mine. It's just that mine is accurate while the other is not.

But don't take my word for it ...

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.17917


Wiki...
The terms ante meridiem (before noon) and post meridiem (after noon) do not literally apply to noon and midnight. Although the term meridies (literally midday) properly applies to noon, its abbreviation m. is not commonly used.

However, it has become common practice in the United States to designate 12:00 p.m. as noon and 12:00 a.m. as midnight at the beginning of the day. With this convention the change from a.m. to p.m. or reversed coincides with the change of hour from 11 to 12. With the opposite convention these changes would take place separated by one minute. This convention is standardized for computer usage in an ANSI standard[citation needed].

12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are occasionally used in the UK, but with no consistent meaning, and such terms are generally considered to be ambiguous and incorrect, for reasons explained in the website of the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich...

From my point of view, because I hear 12 a.m. used as midnight at 12 p.m. used a noon in both everyday life and in media and entertainment, I think it works to say. Some believe that it only really works when authority verifies it. Myself, if I say "pwned" and people can understand what I mean and use it themselves, "pwned" is a word, because it can be understood in common speech (not the best example, but... meh). Others will say pwned isn't a word, because it isn't in the dictionary, even though they can use it and understand it.

I think 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. can be used to refer to midnight and noon because everyone I've ever talked to has known them as that. If you look at digital or computer clocks, they will say this too. Because they are used like this, I think it's perfectly fine to say it's acceptable to define them as such.
 
Wiki...


From my point of view, because I hear 12 a.m. used as midnight at 12 p.m. used a noon in both everyday life and in media and entertainment, I think it works to say. Some believe that it only really works when authority verifies it. Myself, if I say "pwned" and people can understand what I mean and use it themselves, "pwned" is a word, because it can be understood in common speech (not the best example, but... meh). Others will say pwned isn't a word, because it isn't in the dictionary, even though they can use it and understand it.

I think 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. can be used to refer to midnight and noon because everyone I've ever talked to has known them as that. If you look at digital or computer clocks, they will say this too. Because they are used like this, I think it's perfectly fine to say it's acceptable to define them as such.

If you hear it this way in the media, the reporter is doing a bad job. I went to journalism school and was quizzed on the Associated Press style book regularly ... it is the Bible of journalistic editing style. You must say 12 noon or midnight by AP style. It's also true in the Chicago Manual of Style.

12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are simply incorrect designations. 12:01 either way gains an a.m. or p.m.
 
If you hear it this way in the media, the reporter is doing a bad job. I went to journalism school and was quizzed on the Associated Press style book regularly ... it is the Bible of journalistic editing style. You must say 12 noon or midnight by AP style. It's also true in the Chicago Manual of Style.

12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are simply incorrect designations. 12:01 either way gains an a.m. or p.m.

Or, you could all end this ambiguity by simply switching to a 24-hour clock.

There is no confusion between 1200 hours and 2400 hours.

Then again, much like socialized medicine, only the American military seems to have adopted this standard used in most of the rest of the civilized world, so it can't possibly be a good thing.
 
Who gives a **** about the time... what's the freaking announcement already? Can I finally set 'Final Countdown' as my ringtone or what?

As your reference explains, ante means "before" and meridiem does not mean midnight.
 
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