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I would be curious as to the number of folks here that are dumping Sequoia and going back to Sonoma or Ventura?

Right now I'm using the public beta of 15.2., I think it's beta 3. It has less issues than 15.0 had, but it still has more problems than any other macOS I've used. I started with Leopard. I'm tempted to wait until the release of 15.3, which I guess will be in January, and if it's not bug free, going back to Sonoma or Ventura.
 
JUMA55 said:
I would be curious as to the number of folks here that are dumping Sequoia and going back to Sonoma or Ventura?

Right now I'm using the public beta of 15.2., I think it's beta 3. It has less issues than 15.0 had, but it still has more problems than any other macOS I've used. I started with Leopard. I'm tempted to wait until the release of 15.3, which I guess will be in January, and if it's not bug free, going back to Sonoma or Ventura.
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A couple of bugs with my MacMini 2018 but nothing that is really a showstopper. I still have Ventura on my internal SSD and test drive Sequoia on an external Thunderbolt NVMe enclosure.

In my day to day usage, it does « feel » the same as Ventura.
 
For my 2019 MBP, I reverted from 15 to 14.7.1, which are very stable versions.

I just bought an M4 Mac mini, with 15.1 now. So far, I feel it's also quite stable.
 
I'm on a 2019 NcMP with 16 Core CPU & W6800X and Sequoia 15.2, Beta3. Runs Great except Safari 18.2 has trouble accessing secondary links.

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It’s really a shame to hear that some Intel users are again experiencing issues with a new macOS. It would be great if Apple could ensure that the newer versions run smoothly on all Intel devices so that the last supported versions are also very stable. That used to be the case with many older Intel devices (El Capitan, High Sierra, etc.).

In any case, I seem to have gotten lucky this time. I have a 2019 7,1 Mac Pro and had issues with Ventura and Sonoma, especially with PCIe SSDs and external HDDs. Ventura, in particular, was very unreliable. I updated very early to Sequoia for this reason. Normally, I’m at least a year behind with updates, but SO FAR, I have to say everything is running very well, fast, and reliably. No more storage issues, and all of my audio software is working perfectly. The computer also does not feel slower than it used to be in Monterey.
 
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I've just put put the Sequoia 15.1 update on my 2018 i7 Mini and it's made a big difference over the initial Sequoia release. All seems much faster especially browsers - even Safari. It's making me think again about buying the new M4 Mini just yet.
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An update - apart from one crash when everything froze and I had to restart, 15.1 is continuing to run extremely well and while 15.0 was poor it is also much better than Sonoma.
This is surprising as Sequoia will I think be the last update for the 2018 Mini so this is a pleasant surprise. I think it probably helps that it's a six core i7 with 32GB ram though.
The only issue is the machine runs hot and I'm getting a fan speed of over 4000 most of the time but it's been like that under previous OS versions and is probably because I have several browsers with many tabs open, play a lot of videos/streams, as well as other programs such as InDesign. That said CPU and memory use is low mostly and it still runs hot.
 
My 2018 Mini is a pain to use at this point. Well done Apple, I have to buy a new computer.
Glad I held out for the current Mini, it's a great deal with the right amount of RAM right our of the box.
Now, I just need a USB-C Keyboard and mouse, plus a USB-A to USB-C adapter for my iPod to connect to the new Mini.
I could use an adapter for the keynoard but it's time for a new one-using a really old Apple keyboard that I wish Apple still made. Flat keyboards suck. IMO.
 
Installed Sequoia on my early 2015 MacBook Pro 13 inch with the 3.1ghz i7, 16gb ram and 512ssd and it works perfectly. It is like lightning for just about everything. All my apps work including radarscope, the only thing I have not tried is iPhone mirroring and it likely won't work anyway since my iPhone is the iPhone 11 with iOS 18 on it.
 
steve333 said:
My 2018 Mini is a pain to use at this point. Well done Apple, I have to buy a new computer.
Glad I held out for the current Mini, it's a great deal with the right amount of RAM right our of the box.
Now, I just need a USB-C Keyboard and mouse, plus a USB-A to USB-C adapter for my iPod to connect to the new Mini.
I could use an adapter for the keynoard but it's time for a new one-using a really old Apple keyboard that I wish Apple still made. Flat keyboards suck. IMO.
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Try Ventura on it. It runs perfect.
 
I've held off on updating my 16" Intel MacBook Pro, how is this running for everyone now that it has had a few months to mature?

Obviously runs great on my Mac mini M4 but haven't tried it on Intel yet.
 
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Try Ventura on it. It runs perfect.
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I just remember how much I hated the first-generation new Settings app in Ventura. Still a step backward from the old System Preferences but it got a little better than it was in Sonoma and Sequoia.

Monterey was my favorite recent-ish version to use on Intel. Still have it on an unsupported 2013 iMac and it runs just fine.
 
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I fall into Sequoia without a chance because of my update preferences. I had only download allowed, not full auto update. But Sonoma not just downloaded, it marked in the boot the new version. Happened before, but from 14.x to 14.y there is no problem, to 14 to 15... I lost video acceleration! I decided to go ahead and now all updates are off - hope is enough. So, Sonoma has issues, why to go back?

Yes, Sonoma was a bit faster than Sequoia, specially with files - man, this system takes a looooong time to copy a file. And I am comparing with with previous macOSs but also with Linux Mint. Wanna speed? Put a Linux Mint in some partition to be happy sometimes! But to me there is no much of difference overall. The catastrophic issue is VirtualBox that I am still working on. I have a Linux, Windows 10 and Windows XP. In this order: slow, slower, unusable.

Every new macOS have issues, things that does not work (phone mirroring doesn't work), I get used to it. But this lack of compatibility with Oracles's VirtualBox is something I don't see for a long time. I the OP's notebook might work because of the power of the processor, but is not what we expect these days.
 
My Mac mini might be oldest...
 

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My HP Printer (connecting via WiFi) can't working on 15.0 or later version. I googled that this is a common problem.

I downgrade from 15.1 to 14.7.2, verything works fine now.
 
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Kind of got excited to try out the iphone mirroring feature so acted irrationally and i updated my 2019 i
15inch 2.3ghz intel mac to Sequoia…
my mac is soo much slower, everything is slow..Safari in particular is incredibly slow..

first time a macOs update slows down my mac this much..i know it will get better with updates soon but my mac is lmost unusable.

reverting to an older version. Cant wait to get my m4 mbp
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A jump from any Intel Mac to the Apple silicon is literally one of the most impressive computing feats I have witnessed since as long as I can remember. I remember people thinking that leaving Intel was risky, but the writing of where Intel was headed was clearly evident to the Apple brass as well as realizing they'll never be truly able to achieve their goals of efficiency and performance with Intel. People that use their Macs for anything other than light web browsing and email would be blown away especially by design of the MacBook Pro's they revamped starting with the M1 Pro machines. The performance to power ratio, the barely audible fans, the added I/O, the improved screens on the M4 machines all make it a must have if you're doing any kind of actual work on it. It's kind of sad how they pretty much left anyone who bought specced out Intel machines with expensive paperweights for the most part, since they barely support anything that has to do with intel anymore.
 
Every few months I grab a machine and try a latest & greatest macOS. Every one after Monterey has come with either stability, compatibility, or performance drawbacks substantial enough that it's gone back to Monterey. And IMO Monterey was actually a step down from Big Sur. Sequoia had more problems than it was worth, but I read from several devs talking about how no one should be installing it on a primary work system for another 6mo's, so maybe there's hope yet. But since Apple's transition to AS means we have to transition back to PC's soon anyway, we've (finally, thankfully) dumped Parallels for Boot Camp, so our machines really aren't running MacOS hardly at all anymore anyway. We got a couple new MBPs for admin this fall. They were fine, but splitting between incompatible platforms was too inefficient.

Also, did you know, when running Win over BootCamp, you can power the iMacs internal display off and choose to send all your graphics crunching power to an external? Very handy, when you like the horsepower of the iMac but want it driving a nice big curved display for 5 Designers & ME's to sit around and argue in front of.
 
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After some time now on macOS 15 on my 2018 Intel Mac mini, I'm not having any major issues at all. Not even any minor issues. There's always growing pains with macOS (and OS X) until you get to about a "point 3" update. I know people that won't upgrade their Macs at all until the "point 3" update comes out.

FWIW, I'm using my Mac mini as a content caching computer for Apple updates in the house, along with using it for a Channels Home Server and general Media Hub for the house. I also have a large number of Parallels VM's I use often, and occasionally boot into Windows for some Work stuff. I think I might actually turn off automatic updates and stay on macOS 15.2 for a while. Seems to be in a good place.
 
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Sequoia runs significantly more reliably on my 2019 Intel Mac Pro, especially when it comes to additional storage solutions. I stayed on Monterey for quite a while because I’m usually not very up-to-date when it comes to operating systems. However, I upgraded to Ventura and experienced significant issues with dropouts and the non-mounting of PCIe SATA SSDs as well as external backup solutions. I completely skipped Sonoma and went straight to Sequoia with 15.0.1—no issues here.
 
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After some time now on macOS 15 on my 2018 Intel Mac mini, I'm not having any major issues at all. Not even any minor issues. There's always growing pains with macOS (and OS X) until you get to about a "point 3" update. I know people that won't upgrade their Macs at all until the "point 3" update comes out.

FWIW, I'm using my Mac mini as a content caching computer for Apple updates in the house, along with using it for a Channels Home Server and general Media Hub for the house. I also have a large number of Parallels VM's I use often, and occasionally boot into Windows for some Work stuff. I think I might actually turn off automatic updates and stay on macOS 15.2 for a while. Seems to be in a good place.
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For now, still on a « test drive » on my MacMini 2018. Even, if I am mainly booted with this drive since Sequoia is out, my internal has a bulletproof Ventura install. I must admit, after all, that Ventura runs really well on this machine.

It’s not that Sequoia doesn’t run ok but my GeekBench scores are lower with it. However, as it is only an office machine (mail, Word, etc…), not sure it really matters.
 
my 2019 intel i9 MBP, acutally has no problem with 15.1 or later version except the HP printer problem. Other than that, I'd upgrade to 15.X
 
gank41 said:
After some time now on macOS 15 on my 2018 Intel Mac mini, I'm not having any major issues at all. Not even any minor issues. There's always growing pains with macOS (and OS X) until you get to about a "point 3" update. I know people that won't upgrade their Macs at all until the "point 3" update comes out.

FWIW, I'm using my Mac mini as a content caching computer for Apple updates in the house, along with using it for a Channels Home Server and general Media Hub for the house. I also have a large number of Parallels VM's I use often, and occasionally boot into Windows for some Work stuff. I think I might actually turn off automatic updates and stay on macOS 15.2 for a while. Seems to be in a good place.
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My 2018 Mini is noticably worse since the second OS upgrade. I am getting a new Mini soon as even browsing websites has become a chore at times, especially using facebook
 
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