Hey, Apple: If you are found to be lying about this, you are DONE.
I just got a call from Tim, and he swears they're not lying. You really scared the hell of of them.
lol i think i've had enough macrumors for one day.
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Intelligence Program Gives US Government Direct Access to Customer Data on Apple Servers [Update: Apple Denies]
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lol i think i've had enough macrumors for one day.
What if the data collected somehow stops (or has stopped) a terrorist attack from happening... a terrorist attack that would have resulted in at least one innocent casualty. Would that make it worth it? If you answered no, then your prioritizing your "privacy" over an actual life. Does that sound right?
I'm not saying I'm happy about the circumstances. However, the benefits out way the cost, IMO. Don't get me wrong; It'll be the first to yell "Give me liberty or give me death!" if they screw us.
Not a problem, I perform all my communications in code.
The blue pigeon has flown the coop. I repeat, the blue pigeon has flown the coop. The weather in Maine is foggy, better bring a blanket. Over.
The blue pigeon has flown the coop. I repeat, the blue pigeon has flown the coop. The weather in Maine is foggy, better bring a blanket. Over.
For the amount of resources spent to save one life, how about fixing the huge number of deaths from gun crimes and inadequate health care? Of course, there are higher callings and some things are more important than others.
In all honestly I do not care if the gov't has access to my data... if your'e doing nothing wrong and not involved in any shady business why care? they can access and store all the data they want, do you think they have the man power/resources and time to go through it all? I highly doubt it...
Haha so it's republicans fault that GITMO isn't closed? Obama seems to be able to use executive orders for whatever he wants. If he wanted to close GITMO (or really thought it was the right thing to do) it would be closed.
To an individual, yes. But for a server farm dedicated to storing, crawling, and collating information it's very easy.
The problem is, no one discusses the reason 9/11 happened. It was, as military planners refer to it, "blowback" resulting from decades-long US international policies. You can't be the biggest bully on the block - attacking sovereign nations, assassinating opponents, overthrowing governments, rigging elections, and controlling the world's oil production by force or threat of force - and not expect to make some enemies. Americans need to take responsibility for the actions of their government abroad.
am i the only one looking at the "powerpoint" slide and thinks its placed together by a two year old? Even down to the logo having a red background?
Because they can decide you ARE doing something wrong. Because you're probably violating a bunch of laws without knowing it. Because they don't care if you end up as collateral damage. Because you're easier to use, abuse, and subjugate when they know all about you.
I'm a freedom loving, Constitution defending, God-of-Abraham worshiping, charity providing, armed, self-sufficient, patriotic American. Odd that it seems I'm one of those targeted for scrutiny and oppression.
Beware thinking you won't be a target of those keen on knowing everything about you.
While I applaud you for good intentions, that quote is the most misunderstood in, well, history.
Source:
What Ben Franklin Really Said
This quote by Benjamin Franklin has been used for a long time out of context by those who argue against national security procuring private information in the "war against terror." In fact, it has nothing to do with the subject.
NEVER
YES
And it's not prioritizing my privacy, it's prioritizing the freedom of the human race. So, yes, it's worth it.
I'll let Ben Franklin respond:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - February 17, 1775
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Yes, anyone can try to bend history to suit their own purposes. Doesn't convince anyone though.
You forget that nearly every single member of congress signed onto this crap.... Republican AND Democrat. So don't go pawning this off on one party. They are both equally guilty. And get this.... they kept renewing the bill until they finally decided to strike the sunset clause altogether so they wouldn't have to revisit it again.
Keep in mind that under the Patriot Act (signed in to law by Bush and continued and expanded under Obama) companies are NOT ALLOWED TO EVEN CONFIRM OR DENY PARTICIPATION IN THESE PROGRAMS.
If you are surprised, well, you're a fool. And that's putting it mildly.
Every single thing you do is being monitored and collected 24/7/365. And you are enabling it by purchasing and making ever more use out of cloud services and smartphones, tablets, et al. You're making their job even easier, and they thank you for it.
If you are surprised, well, you're a fool. And that's putting it mildly.
Every single thing you do is being monitored and collected 24/7/365. And you are enabling it by purchasing and making ever more use out of cloud services and smartphones, tablets, et al. You're making their job even easier, and they thank you for it.
If these companies are involved with the NSA, they would not be legally allowed to confirm involvement. So, I guess they might as well deny involvement...who's going to prove otherwise? Hopefully some whistleblower who still has a moral compass inside one of these companies will.
Everyone show outrage today..... and we all go back to sleep tomorrow.
They know this... thus they continue doing what they are doing.
They know this... thus they continue doing what they are doing.
Historians have known the origins and meaning of this particular quote for a long time. The dawn of the digital age has made it very easy for anyone to twist information and set it out into the open, spreading like a disease. However in this instance there is a plethora of evidence in existence before 1's and 0's in the form of letters and documents written by the source [Franklin] in context with then current pertinent events.
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Agreed
In other news, did you read Sim City is delayed until August? I'm pissed.
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Yeah, I read that quote on another comment after posting my comment and immediately started doubting myself. Still, if the NSA is really looking into our personal data, what can we do? Anything below a revolution seems redundant. A protest/signature-campaign may get the NSA to say, "We'll shut it down" but there's no guarantee they actually would.
A Benjamin Franklin quote comes to mind here.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
I think of that warning often over the last 13 years or so.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
I think of that warning often over the last 13 years or so.
This is not news, or at least should not be to anyone living in the modern digital world. Ask your self this what do you really know about the "cloud" where and who is keeping your information? Richard Stallman while seeming a digital extremist to most is correct in his statements of potential implementation of user information.
Not much stops a politically charged group from making a company and "buying" user information from the companies mentioned. Blackberry has been doing so for years even in the RIM days.
If you put it out there, its out there for all to see and read and change and manipulate however they wish to.
Not much stops a politically charged group from making a company and "buying" user information from the companies mentioned. Blackberry has been doing so for years even in the RIM days.
If you put it out there, its out there for all to see and read and change and manipulate however they wish to.
Now do you really believe the abuse of government power is limited, in any way, to a single political party? Wouldn't an omnipotent bureaucratic body WANT you to blame the "other side," to deflect attention away from their own nefarious plots?