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The Doctor11

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Won't be able to restore back to 10.2.1 since 10.3 updated to the new APFS. Can't go back.

Well that is great news!

what? like any other way to revert when its still being signed...restore as new then restore backup....like im doing now cause even steam app dont work anymore on it.

You won't be able to simply drop in the old IPSW, but I see no reason why you can't do a full restore. The release notes even say to do a back up before you update, which clearly would be useless unless you could go back.
 

Freakonomics101

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I only use ATTWS for my iPhones, VZW for iPads and iPhones. I roam between USCC and VZW territory often, and get that "no data" bit on my iPads mainly when I'm in USCC territory for a day or more, re-provisioning the line's account always fixes it, at least until I need to roam again for more than 24 hours or so.

Try re-provisioning your account, see if that fixes your issues. The VZW version: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-41067/

Trying that now, thanks! Currently waiting for it to reprovision, although it's not really doing anything at the moment.

I have never seen that option before. Is that something new?
 

ChrispyT2

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Not sure if this is a new feature or not but if I'm on a website, specifically news websites, I hit the share button and one of the buttons says, "Open in News." News opens and shows a page based on that source such as CNN. This might have been before iOS 10.3 but I don't think I've seen it before.
 

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stulaw11

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Its not a bug, just because someone on Youtube called it such. It's their job to drum up views to make $ and make everything a big deal.

Everyone wants everything to work 100% perfect and that's simply not reality. It's not a bug because it is not up to people's ridiculously outlandish standards.

Yes it has 2 milliseconds of stutter dealing with large changes in light, with the assumption that it is not simply a software or hardware limitation right now of how fast the camera can readjust, not the end of the universe.

I find that guys videos entertaining but he's kind of a douche too making every tiny thing the end of the world to get more views.
 
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Eduardo75890

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Anyone seeing a black flash when opening apps like settings, photos and so on ??

I have that also on my iPhone 7+ 256GB. I think It can be a new animation for Setting that the only app that has a little black flash before going into the app.
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Multitasking is still buggy and grey dock bug is still there..
Which iPhone are you using? Multi tasking is working fine for me
 

cfairbank

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You won't be able to simply drop in the old IPSW, but I see no reason why you can't do a full restore. The release notes even say to do a back up before you update, which clearly would be useless unless you could go back.

I could be wrong just going off an article on imore. http://m.imore.com/how-download-ios-10-developer-beta

Info at end of article indicates since file structure is changed to new system you wouldn't be able to roll back. Honestly hope I am wrong.
 

Eduardo75890

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I tried that twice. No luck.
If Network Reset isn't working. Have to restarted you phone. Still doesn't work. I recommend a backup and fully reset you phone and restore with the new backup you just did with iOS 10.3 on it. Try to see that works .
[doublepost=1485309796][/doublepost]Anybody having issue with searching a app on the App Store. I try to search something and it will result to a blank search.
 

deejaykorn

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Verizon (at least) appears to support Calls on Other Devices even when they're not nearby, with something called Integrated Calling. Haven't been able to test yet, since my Mac's not on me to update.
I tried from my IP7 to my IP5S with no luck. It may only work with devices that support wifi calling?
 

kingston73

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Not fixed. It's amazing how long this fix is taking. Is it something on apple's end or tmobiles? Some of my apps, including citrix worxmail have not been working for quite a while now.

I didn't understand the post you quoted, what needs fixing and what's wrong on the Tmo phones? I'm still on 10.1.1
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Can anybody with T-mobile try to go to fra.dot.gov I want to see if they fixed ipv6 T-mobile issue.

Can you explain?
 

gwhizkids

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There is a couple of things that makes the whole „simply showing a webpage” complicated.

iOS apps can be constructed from various APIs - UITableView, UICollectionView, WKWebView, to name most popular; all of those api’s have to conform to very strict rules if you want them to work fluidly on iOS devices. Conforming to those rules or following guidelines to create your custom views are time-consuming and are slowing down development, so we end up with everyone using code that are bloated, are repeating itself, don’t care about strong reference cycle (long story short: when object - like image you see scrolling through an app - is created and is no longer used: should be freed from memory, iOS provides it with ARC, but noone really cares - it is held in memory because some completely pointless variable in app stills refers to that object). That is our first problem.

If you open app written without consideration of memory constrains of mobile platform - firstly it works fluid, as it is empty or filled with not that much data (and it is indirectly related to actual amount of data, as app with hundreds of megabytes can work much more fluid that app only uses only 20 megabytes of ram). But in time you will see that once it was an fluid app it becomes more and more bloated. There could be a couple of reasons: reading and hoarding temporary objects in memory, problems with asynchronous - as it is, reading in background thread - reading from database, using JSON connections that have a long time to complete request.

As iOS have become more and more fully-front-multitasking (and with many processes running in the background) operating system - things that once were really simple, like forcing app to save it’s state and quit - became complicated. There is a base of tasks that cannot be force-quitted to free memory. And there are apps that, even if they are in background, finishing their tasks, uploading data, or doing whatever is allowed by iOS (they even may fetching data, if they received push notification, even if their state was suspended or you have force-quitted them recently).

So: first you have some very memory consuming and racing for the memory (even if force-quitted) apps like facebook (which abuses couple of iOS guidlines and probably uses some dirty workarounds for staying always-alive, VOIP kit to name the one), twitter, maybe instagram (I’m not familiar with it’s memory management, but I suppose it’s similiar, as in: whatsapp, google hangouts, etc.).

Second: iOS memory management frees amount of memory that is within a scope of your request: it doesn’t know if you scroll back in your imessage history and there is 15 megabytes animated GIF. If it is requested: it would free memory that are being used by some app - and provide it to imessage. (And no, making iPhone or iPad 64 gb RAM version would not help in this case).

APFS can help in cases when reading from disk (like scrolling in imessage, providing app with GIF file) because it will have higher priority, and probably could be prefetched with some system options.

And there is a problem with web pages: modern web pages are full of javascript and whatever they think that they are loading data. They mostly do it synchronously, even if a lone developer thought thoroughly to make his chunk of work conforms to DOM. When you view a webpage you should see only a part of a webpage that is a part of the DOM structure, not all of crazy api-css-style-json-ajax-with references to twenty or so web pages providing some sort of code needed to work-code. That is when you browse through an bloated webpage you receive subpar user experience.

Web view have to rebuild from http/json/yourmomma request (still: in memory) to show the portion of screen you want to view.

It’s only a scratch of the problem. But: yes, this is why web/web-js-based-app/apps are causing a not-fluid scrolling.

Wow! Where were you with this explanation during the Stutter and Lag Crisis of Early iOS 10? This would have shut down all the "Apple Sucks" people and made this forum a much happier place!

Seriously: great explanation for all us non-developers (and probably more than a few developers, too).
 

Justjay27

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Force touching in safari doesn't have that subtle vibration anymore. Not sure if it's a bug or "new feature"
 

jft94

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I have that also on my iPhone 7+ 256GB. I think It can be a new animation for Setting that the only app that has a little black flash before going into the app.

I highly doubt it's a new animation. Why would they have an ugly black screen when opening an app a new animation? It's also not the only app that does it. News, Maps, Tips, Find Friends, Find My iPhone, iBooks, and Reminders also do this.
 

Septembersrain

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I didn't understand the post you quoted, what needs fixing and what's wrong on the Tmo phones? I'm still on 10.1.1
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Can you explain?

Some apps and I think websites are broken because they run on IPV4 (Internet protocol version 4) only and the newest update (Don't know about 10.3, I'm not on it yet) 10.2.X have the devices run on IPV6 only for T-Mobile. So essentially you have useless apps and websites you can't reach because you don't have the IPV4 option. Apple advised all of the developers to update the apps but I'm not sure if they have a certain time frame? They decided on this because they were running out of IPV4 addresses I believe.

I'm not sure if this beta fixed the issue.
 
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krishnajha

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Jun 23, 2015
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My 7 plus just made the update process, and the end it rebooted like normal and then it says "iOS updated to 10.2.1" but I have already that and I was with no cellular signal or wifi, airplane mode, fix it one moment and the cellular goes away again and only wifi, reboot fix that but still have to re download the 10.3 update :/
 

mariusignorello

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Apple Pay logo typography changed from Myriad Web Pro to San Francisco.
 

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dan9700

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Animations have been fixed lot faster but opening and close folders is mega slow and laggy is this just a beta problem cant be so fast and just folders slow
 

anon.guy

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Someone explain me, if I try to "shift+restore" with itunes to 10.2.1, it won t let me? I m stuck forever on 10.3 and beyond?? On a side note, there is no xcode on windows so if I encounter any problems and need to restore I won't be able to, right?
 
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