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Not sure if it was just my install, but I'm in the midst of reporting some WiFi performance inconsistencies. This is after rebooting, and later resetting network settings. Something seems to be up.

I noticed this myself, accessing my Work open wifi at Walmart. I am waiting to test it a few days to see if I want to report it because there there can be other issues with Walmart's ATT open network including the number of shoppers and employees accessing it during busy the holiday shopping season.
I also use it on my home wifi network, but don't usually push at home to really test it's reliabiliy. I live in a small, one bedroom apt.
 
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I'm an Anker guy myself, but after seeing Mobile Reviews, Eh's teardowns of several lightning (including Anker), I think from here on out I'll be sticking to Apple's cables exclusively.

I saw the same video when he uploaded it a few weeks back, but it didn’t scare me away from Anker’s cables. I’m still using their lightning cables I first purchased for my iPhone 5s over four years ago.

I’ll admit, from Mobile Reviews’ video the Apple cables have a better constructed lightning connector. But in my opinion, it’s only marginally better and not worth double the price of the cable itself.

My wife goes through Apple’s lightning cables like dental floss on a chain saw. When I switched her over to the Anker cables, we’ve never had any issues.

Edit: Knock on wood
 
So far so good on my 256GB iPhone X. Only one App freeze and that was with Microsoft’s Outlook app..... Reported it to both Apple and Microsoft...
 
I only use the charging stuff which comes in the box nowadays. When I used an iPad charger with my iPhone 6 my wear level was depreciating very fast and battery got wrecked in 2 years. I recall wear level was much below 80%. Of course one og the reasons was also iOS 9 which was causing me to charge my phone frequently. I was using one of that AmazonBasics lightning cable because unlike Apple's stock cable its braided and of a much better quality. This time with my 7 Plus I used the stock Apple cable and that 5w charger. Battery is at 98-99% after a year but I don't know if the fault was of the iPad charger or the cable. I think the lesson to be learnt here is don't use anything which is not Apple provided for the battery.

Yep from now on I’m just gonna stick with Apple provided stuff because it just isn’t worth it to ruin my battery. I tested my Apple cable at work and I was able to unlock my phone just fine unlike with the other cord. It’s a shame because it really came in handy being a much longer cord than the Apple one. Still, I don’t think I’m gonna trust Walmart stuff again.

I never trust cheap charging alternatives. Most of the time you get what you pay for.
If you're looking for braided quality, I used the Native Union BELT Lightning-to-USB cable for my 7 Plus for a whole year without issue and am now using it for my 8 Plus. A good rule of thumb is buy from the apple store and you should be fine. Maybe expensive but worth the piece of mind.

I definitely don’t trust them anymore now, that’s for sure! This one wasn’t exactly cheap but it wasn’t majorly expensive either. But it’s the second one from there that went bad pretty quickly on me and that’s 2 too many times. Won’t be doing that again. I’d love a nice braided one, maybe I’ll put that on my Christmas list. ;) But yeah, moral of my story—stick with Apple. Thanks for the advice guys!
 
I saw the same video when he uploaded it a few weeks back, but it didn’t scare me away from Anker’s cables. I’m still using their lightning cables I first purchased for my iPhone 5s over four years ago.

I’ll admit, from Mobile Reviews’ video the Apple cables have a better constructed lightning connector. But in my opinion, it’s only marginally better and not worth double the price of the cable itself.

My wife goes through Apple’s lightning cables like dental floss on a chain saw. When I switched her over to the Anker cables, we’ve never had any issues.

Edit: Knock on wood

A lot of users do go through lightning cables like dental floss but I am curious how you guys treat them. I still have my first lightning cable from the first lightning cable iPhone. Some MFI cables are durable and thicker feel as if its higher quality but Apple lightning is as same in comparison. I also notice MFI cables at the USB end tends to heat up compared to Apple USB end which I stick to Apple cable. I stick to the normal 5W adapter since iPad charger creates too much heat and degrades battery life over time.
 
I stick to the normal 5W adapter since iPad charger creates too much heat and degrades battery life over time.

I too, have a ton of Apple lightning cables and have yet to have one fail. I do occasionally use the charger from my iPad Pro (read: maybe 3 times since I received my X on launch day) and have yet to notice any more or less heat than using the 5w charger.
 
I noticed this myself, accessing my Work open wifi at Walmart. I am waiting to test it a few days to see if I want to report it because there there can be other issues with Walmart's ATT open network including the number of shoppers and employees accessing it during busy the holiday shopping season.
I also use it on my home wifi network, but don't usually push at home to really test it's reliabiliy. I live in a small, one bedroom apt.
I have ATT at home as well, and it’s been odd. Knock on wood, but things have been good today. Made sure to file feedback in case there was an issue, so they could hopefully incorporate fixes in time.
 
Yep from now on I’m just gonna stick with Apple provided stuff because it just isn’t worth it to ruin my battery. I tested my Apple cable at work and I was able to unlock my phone just fine unlike with the other cord. It’s a shame because it really came in handy being a much longer cord than the Apple one. Still, I don’t think I’m gonna trust Walmart stuff again.



I definitely don’t trust them anymore now, that’s for sure! This one wasn’t exactly cheap but it wasn’t majorly expensive either. But it’s the second one from there that went bad pretty quickly on me and that’s 2 too many times. Won’t be doing that again. I’d love a nice braided one, maybe I’ll put that on my Christmas list. ;) But yeah, moral of my story—stick with Apple. Thanks for the advice guys!

I would agree about using quality cable, although I don't work in electronics, I dealt with this on an almost daily basis in the school picture business as, the equipment manager for 26 years. I have some education in electronics and more importantly, years of experience. I am certainly not an expert by any means.
However, a longer cable will almost certainly have a higher internal resistance therefore output voltages and wattage can potentially be lower going into the phone.
That said, I have used a 6 foot Onn lightening cable purchased at Walmart with no apparent issues in a year.
I previously had an Apple cable, given to me when my sister gave me my first Iphone, her old 5c.
She, like many others doesn't know how to properly take care of cables.
I see many people pull on their cords instead of grasping the connector to remove them. They eventually come apart where the cord enters the connector and eventually wires break or have an unreliable, lower resistance connection.
Furthermore people are often rolling up their cord in improper ways, even folding them. eventually they will become unreliable and inevitably,totally fail.
One of the other major variables here is the quality of the connector contact and the quality of the solder joints.
The older, lead solder was much more reliable, if done properly than the newer, environmental friendly ones.

Feel free to correct me on any of this, as I am certainly not an engineer.

Maybe this is getting off topic now, but does anybody care to share links to cable tests, or redirect me to a better place to post this on macrumors forums?
Thanks
 
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I have ATT at home as well, and it’s been odd. Knock on wood, but things have been good today. Made sure to file feedback in case there was an issue, so they could hopefully incorporate fixes in time.

I noticed my home WiFi drop signal on two different occasions yesterday, but so far all is well today. I’m hoping it was just a fluke and not related to the beta.
 
I’ve seen mentioned a few times in these threads that charging an iPhone with an iPad charger can cause damage to the battery. Is there any proof of this? Just curious to find out why so many people are claiming that as a fact...
 
I’ve seen mentioned a few times in these threads that charging an iPhone with an iPad charger can cause damage to the battery. Is there any proof of this? Just curious to find out why so many people are claiming that as a fact...
I occasionally see a few mentioning this, although even those few are generally more in the past than really all that recently, but not much really beyond that. Theoretically charging using higher current can generate somewhat more heat and that is basically something that isn't as good for the battery, compared to lower current and slightly less heat, but in a practical sense even if you consistently use an iPad charger to charge your phone you aren't really going to notice meaningful battery degradation from just that.
 
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I occasionally see a few mentioning this, although even those few are generally more in the past than really all that recently, but not much really beyond that. Theoretically charging using higher current can generate somewhat more heat and that is basically something that isn't as good for the battery, compared to lower current and slightly less heat, but in a practical sense even if you consistently use an iPad charger to charge your phone you aren't really going to notice meaningful battery degradation from just that.

That makes sense.
I do tend to use the iPad charger most of the time, and suppose I’ll carry on doing so until seeing any actual concrete evidence against it.
Thanks for the reply!
 
Becausee I have reported feedback multiple times on issues in the OS which weren't fixed because they weren't immediately obvious and there weren't news articles written on them or tons of complaints. The home button delay is just one of the many feedbacks not addressed

Go to settings-wallpapers- set a new wallpaper and then go into stills. Scroll down the list. That scrolling has been stuttering for a long time now.
Mobile Data- Apps list stutter

Swipe to the left on home screen to enter Widgets pane- Tap Edit- Scroll down the list of apps. There is scroll stutter


I use Assistive Touch on my iPad because its convenient with a big screen. Open Siri- Then tap on the virtual button. As the menu flashes into view there are terrible frame drops.

Heck the calculator bug took making headlines all over the Internet before Apple fixed it months later.

Some of this feedback is years old and hasn't been addressed. Some were closed for being duplicates of another entry.They only fix the bugs which make headlines or widely reported. The smaller stuff is left to languish and you'll be lucky if its fixed years later.

For instance, on iOS 10,9 and 8 there is a animation bug in iMessage where when you tap on Edit, there is an animation for it but when you tap cancel, there is no corresponding animation. Reported this for years before it got fixed on iOS 11
Well as they say correlation does not prove causation...especially with a sample size of 1. As you can’t know how Apple prioritizes it’s development resources or how they even get on a list.

As far as trying to induce stutter, not interested.
 
My battery is incredible... still at 80%... with over 11 hours of standby and just over 4.5 hours of usage (iPhone 7+).

I've experienced one strange glitch where my lock screen image was partially displayed on my home screen (behind my app icons)... locking the device and unlocking cleared that up. Otherwise, NO issues with this one.

And, yes I reported the issue to Apple via the Feedback app.
 
Anybody try new beta with Apple Pay at POS? Mine isn’t working
Just did earlier today at Subway and all good.

Maybe my cord that I’ve been using is the solution to some of my problems. It’s a 3rd party 10ft cable that I bought at Wal-Mart. Sometimes when I have my phone charging and not even touching it I hear it making the noise like it came unplugged and got plugged back in. I’m gonna try the cord that came with it and see if that affects TouchID too or not. But I do think something is definitely up with the cord I’ve been using, unfortunately.
Sometimes that symptom is simply built up lint packed into the lightning port. Have seen it several times on various devices. Just a wooden or plastic toothpick and carefully scrape inside port especially toward the back and see what gunk comes out. That will definitely cause the on/off binging when attempting to charge.

Yep from now on I’m just gonna stick with Apple provided stuff because it just isn’t worth it to ruin my battery. I tested my Apple cable at work and I was able to unlock my phone just fine unlike with the other cord. It’s a shame because it really came in handy being a much longer cord than the Apple one. Still, I don’t think I’m gonna trust Walmart stuff again.



I definitely don’t trust them anymore now, that’s for sure! This one wasn’t exactly cheap but it wasn’t majorly expensive either. But it’s the second one from there that went bad pretty quickly on me and that’s 2 too many times. Won’t be doing that again. I’d love a nice braided one, maybe I’ll put that on my Christmas list. ;) But yeah, moral of my story—stick with Apple. Thanks for the advice guys!
That is esp true with chargers but Anker makes good products and I have never had one of their MiFi cables fail.

I’ve seen mentioned a few times in these threads that charging an iPhone with an iPad charger can cause damage to the battery. Is there any proof of this? Just curious to find out why so many people are claiming that as a fact...
No its not a fact. The phone will only draw the amt of current it wants not the other way around. An iPad charger can simply provide more IF the device requests it. For example say your device would like 1.5 amps, the standard charger can only supply 1A but the iPad charger can supply 2.1A but it will only supply the 1.5A being asked for by the device. Also iPhone/battery has circuitry to adjust from fast charge to trickle to off automatically.
 
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Sometimes that symptom is simply built up lint packed into the lightning port. Have seen it several times on various devices. Just a wooden or plastic toothpick and carefully scrape inside port especially toward the back and see what gunk comes out. That will definitely cause the on/off binging when attempting to charge.

Yes, I had forgot about that in my last post, that is why a case with a good port cover is a good idea.
 
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Yes both 8 and 7 have it on iOS 11.
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This beta has the same battery life as Beta 4. Don't bother with a clean install for this update. iOS 11 is the problem here for all 7 Plus users.


Your wear level seems fine extrapolating my data onto yours. With 91% Wear and 140 more charge cycles you get around 5 hours of usage. If I use my phone moderately it makes it to 7 hours but by using Facebook and a ton of apps I could drain the phone 6 hours


Ive noticed a considerable difference on the iPhone X between beta 4 and 5. 5 has been way better. I was getting unnecessary drain that was added to my usage stats when I wasn’t using the phone prior to beta 5
 
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Today’s (IP7 Plus) battery stats from about an hour ago...slight improvement since shutting off Wi-Fi at work since it’s so crappy. Now I’m gonna charge all night with my cord that came with the phone and see what happens tomorrow.
 

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Ive noticed a considerable difference on the iPhone X between beta 4 and 5. 5 has been way better. I was getting unnecessary drain that was added to my usage stats when I wasn’t using the phone prior to beta 5
Something is messed up regarding the times. When I went to sleep at 12am the battery was fully charged to 100% and I had closed all apps in the background and turned on low power mode. When I woke up at 7:30AM usage time was 3 mins and standby time was just 1hour 12 mins. Now the battery is currently draining super fast. At 10AM it's already at 80%with 45 mins of use. Subpar to be honest.
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Well as they say correlation does not prove causation...especially with a sample size of 1. As you can’t know how Apple prioritizes it’s development resources or how they even get on a list.

As far as trying to induce stutter, not interested.
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That guy's experience on Windows can also be justified as a sample size of 1. In my case, it's the absolute same with iOS. Only the most reported feedback is heard. The rest is thrown in the trash or left to wither away.
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I occasionally see a few mentioning this, although even those few are generally more in the past than really all that recently, but not much really beyond that. Theoretically charging using higher current can generate somewhat more heat and that is basically something that isn't as good for the battery, compared to lower current and slightly less heat, but in a practical sense even if you consistently use an iPad charger to charge your phone you aren't really going to notice meaningful battery degradation from just that.

That makes sense.
I do tend to use the iPad charger most of the time, and suppose I’ll carry on doing so until seeing any actual concrete evidence against it.
Thanks for the reply!

After my iPhone 6 battery got wrecked I have done a lot of reading on this and high charges can and do reduce battery life span and it's been proven by Battery university

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

"Environmental conditions, not cycling alone, govern the longevity of lithium-ion batteries. The worst situation is keeping a fully charged battery at elevated temperatures. Battery packs do not die suddenly, but the runtime gradually shortens as the capacity fades.

Lower charge voltages prolong battery life and electric vehicles and satellites take advantage of this. Similar provisions could also be made for consumer devices, but these are seldom offered;

A laptop battery could be prolonged by lowering the charge voltage when connected to the AC grid. To make this feature user-friendly, a device should feature a “Long Life” mode that keeps the battery at 4.05V/cell and offers a SoC of about 80 percent. One hour before traveling, the user requests the “Full Capacity” mode to bring the charge to 4.20V/cell.

The question is asked, “Should I disconnect my laptop from the power grid when not in use?” Under normal circumstances this should not be necessary because charging stops when the Li-ion battery is full. A topping charge is only applied when the battery voltage drops to a certain level. Most users do not remove the AC power, and this practice is safe.

Modern laptops run cooler than older models and reported fires are fewer. Always keep the airflow unobstructed when running electric devices with air-cooling on a bed or pillow. A cool laptop extends battery life and safeguards the internal components. Energy Cells, which most consumer products have, should be charged at 1C or less. Avoid so-called ultra-fast chargers that claim to fully charge Li-ion in less than one hour.

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That guy's experience on Windows can also be justified as a sample size of 1. In my case, it's the absolute same with iOS. Only the most reported feedback is heard. The rest is thrown in the trash or left to wither away.
As said before no one knows about apples internals process making up facts to fit a narrative seems to be prevalent.
 
As said before no one knows about apples internals process making up facts to fit a narrative seems to be prevalent.
You think that guy knew about Microsoft's internal processes or was it a simple deduction based on his observations?
 
For the first time today I had weird behaviour of the camera app. When opening it would take ages for the camera image to appear then it would lag and freeze and was unusable. I rebooted the phone and when it got back to the lock screen the camera icon there was greyed out. I unlocked the phone and all seemed to be back to normal. This is on an iPhone X and I'm hoping its a bug rather that the camera module beginning to fail :/
 
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