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Nope. A few inaccuracies in your post. On multiple occasions new hardware has launched with previous software. This same debate happened with iPhone X. Everyone said 11.1. It came with 11.0.3.

iOS 11.3 is not at GM stage. The iPad is coming Friday. At earliest we will see 11.3 is Monday because macOS got a new beta this week. 11 years of Apple history will outline that when one software gets a beta in a week, none get a public release in the same week.

You can think what you want. You have the right. I won’t take that from you. But just know what you are claiming has holes and assumptions.

As i said there is no trend now with apple, it just does whenever and what ever it wants to. So its always about the higher odds of something happening. Since a new major update was released along side a new product(iPad 6 in this case), the odds of them releasing on the update is higher and thats what happened.


So by that logic, then wouldn't people have found reference to the new iPad in iOS 11.3 beta?

No because if that logic were true, then people would find reference to new devices in the first beta of the new iOS version. i.e reference of iPhone 8 and iPhone X in iOS 11 Beta 1. Apple adds those details only in the GM version. and thats what i meant.
 
No. Because they don’t include it until the GM just the way Apple doesn’t include details about the new iPhone till the GM version of the new iOS. Only iOS 12 GM will have the details of the new iPhone and not the beta versions till then.

It’s been the case for every iPhone.
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iPhone X I guess is the only product launched that way becaus there was nothing to hide in it. It was already launched. And details about it was already in iOS 11. iOS 11 was just the bug free version of IOS 11. Technically iPhone X was launched with iOS 11.

You are correct about Apple not releasing the new beta for iPhone when it has just released a new beta for macOS yesterday. I would agree with you on this.

As i said there is no trend now with apple, it just does whenever and what ever it wants to. So its always about the higher odds of something happening. Since a new major update was released along side a new product(iPad 6 in this case), the odds of them releasing on the update is higher and thats what happened.




No because if that logic were true, then people would find reference to new devices in the first beta of the new iOS version. i.e reference of iPhone 8 and iPhone X in iOS 11 Beta 1. Apple adds those details only in the GM version. and thats what i meant.
Did you really feel the need to reply to us again in nearly the exact same manner?

Round 1: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nd-improvements.2110563/page-12#post-25930092
Round 2:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nd-improvements.2110563/page-14#post-25938201
 

If we are talking about the needs, then I dont think any of us have any grave issues that we need to reply to anybody on this forum. I mean its just iPhone and iPads. People have been doing just fine without them, lest talking about them over a forum. :p

We all are just having a dialogue where in we reply to earlier posts. I dont find that to be a big deal.
 
Should i switch from beta 6 to the final version? Battery life on beta 6 is really really good,
but I am scared :eek:
iPhone 7
 
Should i switch from beta 6 to the final version? Battery life on beta 6 is really really good,
but I am scared :eek:
iPhone 7
I moved from beta 6 to 11.3 public release yesterday. My 6s is still running smoothly. But I think that it's too early to compare battery life less than 24 hours after the release of 11.3,
 
If we are talking about the needs, then I dont think any of us have any grave issues that we need to reply to anybody on this forum. I mean its just iPhone and iPads. People have been doing just fine without them, lest talking about them over a forum. :p

We all are just having a dialogue where in we reply to earlier posts. I dont find that to be a big deal.
You missed my point. You replied to both @Mlrollin91’s and I’s exact same post twice in nearly the same verbiage. Click on the two links I gave you and you’ll see what I’m talking about. That is all.
 
Why is this thread still going? 11.3 is out officially

Because we are all still on the beta program. It didn’t “officially” release for us and the public version doesn’t have iCloud Messages so this is still the latest forum for it. I’m assuming we’ll get the 11.4 beta 1 next week since we all still have iCloud Messages.

(I’m assuming)
 
Because we are all still on the beta program. It didn’t “officially” release for us and the public version doesn’t have iCloud Messages so this is still the latest forum for it. I’m assuming we’ll get the 11.4 beta 1 next week since we all still have iCloud Messages.

(I’m assuming)

Can some one who went from beta 6 to official version let us know what happened to their messages. Did they return to the phone alright or did you experience any problems?
 
Can some one who went from beta 6 to official version let us know what happened to their messages. Did they return to the phone alright or did you experience any problems?

Would they be able to? I checked OTA and the official version doesn’t even show up for me. It says I’m running the latest version.
 
Can some one who went from beta 6 to official version let us know what happened to their messages. Did they return to the phone alright or did you experience any problems?
I updated from beta 6 to public release via iTunes and all messages were intact with no problems. Iphone 7.
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Would they be able to? I checked OTA and the official version doesn’t even show up for me. It says I’m running the latest version.
You must remove your beta profile and restart your phone.
 
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I feel I am alone here still running beta 6 ! I feel as a beta tester we not need to run and delete our profile to test the public released version which I believe to be very similar to what we had right here anyway and best to wait for the next beta for us to test ! We are beta testers after all and should not be so worried about having the latest piece of digital code up to the second on out devices we instead should test and report bugs or remove the beta profile and not beta testing !

See you all in 11.4 beta 1( after you all install the beta profile again )
 
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