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iOS 11.4 locking port
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And I don't want to do this every time I need to connect to a computer if I have gone over the 7 days. Like I have said either here or somewhere else, this is half baked. There should be an opt in/out setting.
I started a thread on this too, not realizing you had already posted this one. Did you see this article from two weeks ago?
https://gizmodo.com/it-looks-like-apples-tool-that-stops-cops-from-hacking-1826017460#replies
It references this site: https://www.cyberscoop.com/despite-...new-challenge-for-cops-to-unlock-your-iphone/ which claims Elcomsoft was wrong and that "USB Restricted Mode is not in the current iOS 11.4 beta, which is still in development."
Certainly a lot of FUD around this and Apple isn't commenting.
https://gizmodo.com/it-looks-like-apples-tool-that-stops-cops-from-hacking-1826017460#replies
It references this site: https://www.cyberscoop.com/despite-...new-challenge-for-cops-to-unlock-your-iphone/ which claims Elcomsoft was wrong and that "USB Restricted Mode is not in the current iOS 11.4 beta, which is still in development."
Certainly a lot of FUD around this and Apple isn't commenting.
hmm... so I have a question:
How often (in real life) would you (the user) go more than 7 days without ever unlocking your iPhone?
And, using the passcode would reset that USB restricted mode instantly - which would be totally transparent to you (the legitimate user), so, I don't see where this would be (ever) an issue for the iPhone owner/user.
Even if your iPhone is locked in a box for weeks, a simple unlock using your passcode would reset that mode anyway.
Am I missing something about this security feature that everyone else seems to "know"?
How often (in real life) would you (the user) go more than 7 days without ever unlocking your iPhone?
And, using the passcode would reset that USB restricted mode instantly - which would be totally transparent to you (the legitimate user), so, I don't see where this would be (ever) an issue for the iPhone owner/user.
Even if your iPhone is locked in a box for weeks, a simple unlock using your passcode would reset that mode anyway.
Am I missing something about this security feature that everyone else seems to "know"?
There are all kinds of potential unintended consequences that may apply to some users and not others. For instance, I have a dedicated cellular iPad hidden in my vehicle that is connected to my car's stereo so I can play my iCloud music library in the car. With USB Restricted Mode, am I forced to pull that iPad out from where it is mounted once a week to put in my passcode so my car can communicate with it over USB? That would be a huge inconvenience.
Maybe USB Restricted Mode wouldn't trigger in that case. But since Apple hasn't publicly commented on how it works (or if it is even present) we're just left to flail around and speculate about it. As far as I'm concerned, there's not yet anything definitive saying whether it's there or not. All the news outlets who breathlessly reported on it in early May were sourcing from a blog post from Elcomsoft (who has since made a newer post stating it may not even work as they earlier speculated). There's been very little, if any followup. I'm hoping that will change now that 11.4 is live.
Seriously? You never have to connect your phone to a computer unless you only backup to the computer.. Or need to do some kind of hard core recovery. I haven't had to connect either of my last two phones to a computer, EVER..
I want the USB restricted mode, so that these enforcement troopers can't use that damn box to get into my phones/ipads..
But according to all the "rumors" , and that includes the most current articles, that is what is going to change. You will HAVE to connect to a computer once every seven days or the lockout will occur. That's what this thread is all about.
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I was on my iPhone, I have turned passcode off, AND I am not updating to 11.4 until gives us definitive answers.
Now, on my other idevices, the ones that never leave the house, I do not have a passcode set, nor do they ever connect to a computer.
Well, in the case of no passcode being used, this wouldn't be in play basically.
I don't understand the concern. If you never connect your device to the computer, then why would it matter that the data connection is locked out anyway? Furthermore, using your device resets the clock on the 7 day timer.
My concern is this, all this information is surmised from beta testers and magazine articles. There has been NO definitive information from about how they have implemented this. My experience with is to not trust what other folks are guessing at but to wait until tells me what they have ACTUALLY done! Until then no 11.4 on any of my 4 idevices.
Say another way, that warm fuzzy feeling I would like to have is currently a cold lump in my throat.
Again, if you don't ever connect your device to a computer, why does it matter that you can't connect a locked device to a computer?
Just because I haven't connected doesn't mean I won't ever connect to a computer. Options, it's about options.
However, without a passcode being set/used, this wouldn't come up.
But how else could it possible work? Are you suggesting that if you don't connect for 7 days the device will be locked with a secret and arbitrary passcode, known only to Apple? If you don't passcode your device, then it can't be locked.
There is no way for it to work without that thigh. What would it ask you to enter if you never set a passcode to use? (Not that there would be any point of locking out anything on a device that isn't protected by a passcode since the device can be just be accessed without anything needed to access it.)
For both of you, while I appreciate and understand what YOU are saying, my basic position hasn't changed. Until I hear it from APPLE, this is all supposition and guesswork.
Well, it's just practical common sense as it just wouldn't work with a non-existent passcode.
That said, if we are simply talking about having actual details of the implementation (rather than trying to imagine some corner cases where something might or might not get in the way), then, yes, it would be good if Apple provided more about it all.
That said, if we are simply talking about having actual details of the implementation (rather than trying to imagine some corner cases where something might or might not get in the way), then, yes, it would be good if Apple provided more about it all.
Nothing you will use. Mobile Device Management. Used to control iOS/macOS devices within the enterprise/edu/bus. sectors.
Thanks for the info. Did I read your post correctly that you're saying the odds are URM is in 11.4, despite there being zero mention of it in the release notes nor anywhere in the developer portal? If there is no documentation, what makes you think it was included?
From what I read, it's been in since 11.3 Beta's. It was added to the 11.3 SDK release notes for MDM, allowing them to turn it off. Apple wouldn't add that if it wasn't already/planning to add it. If anything new shows up ill share it.
Thanks. However, even though it was in the 11.3 beta, it was not in the final release of 11.3. There was a rumor it was in one or more of the 11.4 betas, but as you say was never in the release notes. And there was only a single source (the Russian firm Elcomsoft) who claimed it was in the 11.4 beta. Even they have hedged on their original statement.
So I remain skeptical that Apple put it in 11.4 with zero documentation. Could be wrong of course, so I keep hoping someone can find out for certain.