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I dunno. Seems pretty fine to me. Course I astually downloaded the final release and have actually used it for myself. Same thing I plan to do with the X.
 
I would suggest those @ Mashable and Hackernoon write their own mobile operating system and compete with iOS if they feel they could do so much better...
I would recommend the Hackernoon article. Have a look for yourself. It's not a smear of Apple, it's a plea to return to the attention to detail hat we have come to expect from Apple.
 
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I would recommend the Hackernoon article. Have a look for yourself. It's not a smear of Apple, it's a plea to return to the attention to detail hat we have come to expect from Apple.
The “articles” of this sort that have been around from one place or another for years?
 
Not on here apparently!
I don’t have to build my own car to know when a car is a piece of ****. Or build my own house to notice when a house has design problems.

The sooner that people realize this the sooner that Apple will begin making better changes. UX in iOS has been pretty bad since iOS 7. iOS 11 is still bad in a basic way, especially on the X.
 
It is messed up. The stupid features they foist onto people become irritating and can’t be disabled. On the iPad it keeps trying to move links to the side while you’re scrolling down a webpage. I think honestly they need a ceo in charge that actually knows how to design things unlike who they have now.
 
It is messed up. The stupid features they foist onto people become irritating and can’t be disabled. On the iPad it keeps trying to move links to the side while you’re scrolling down a webpage. I think honestly they need a ceo in charge that actually knows how to design things unlike who they have now.
Not to mention all the padding alignment issues scattered throughout almost every native app.
 
I don’t have to build my own car to know when a car is a piece of ****. Or build my own house to notice when a house has design problems.

The sooner that people realize this the sooner that Apple will begin making better changes. UX in iOS has been pretty bad since iOS 7. iOS 11 is still bad in a basic way, especially on the X.

Yeah seems like it's the worst on the X, as you can no longer access the Control Center one-handed; no longer have valuable info in the status bar; etc.... all to accommodate a purely aesthetic goal (which doesn't even look good, IMO). It's literally sacrificing UX for the sake of "style."
 
Yeah seems like it's the worst on the X, as you can no longer access the Control Center one-handed; no longer have valuable info in the status bar; etc.... all to accommodate a purely aesthetic goal (which doesn't even look good, IMO). It's literally sacrificing UX for the sake of "style."
Exactly. Terrible user experience. I doubt most people wI’ll be able to operate the phone’s basic functions (CC, notifications) with one hand. That’s a terrible experience. All for the sake of making sure the notch is displayed on every page.

Now with the X, there’s a massive inconsistency with their line too. Basic functions are completely different on the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X. That’s not good. We can’t keep excusing Apple and saying, “oh they’ll fix it next year.” That’s not what Apple is. Or not what they used to be, anyway.
 
I always kind of scratch my head at why people bristle so much when people point out flaws with an Apple product. The fact that similar sloppiness was in previous versions of iOS doesn't really invalidate any of the stuff pointed out. While most of the stuff noted is fairly trivial, it is flat out sloppy. And it's not like these things would be hard to spot for people doing QA on the user interface.
 
I always kind of scratch my head at why people bristle so much when people point out flaws with an Apple product. The fact that similar sloppiness was in previous versions of iOS doesn't really invalidate any of the stuff pointed out. While most of the stuff noted is fairly trivial, it is flat out sloppy. And it's not like these things would be hard to spot for people doing QA on the user interface.
Personally, I think the more "trivial" (their words, not mine) things there are, the MORE sloppy it is. Things like padding and alignment are very simple to see and correct. That's what is is so disappointing.
 
I always kind of scratch my head at why people bristle so much when people point out flaws with an Apple product. The fact that similar sloppiness was in previous versions of iOS doesn't really invalidate any of the stuff pointed out. While most of the stuff noted is fairly trivial, it is flat out sloppy. And it's not like these things would be hard to spot for people doing QA on the user interface.
It’s usually not so much that which stands out as much as various hyperbolic and extreme takes on it saying it’s all horrible and this is the worst and how tragic things are and all that.
 
What other product - I can't think of one - is allowed to be released half baked because "it happens every year" and "will get fixed"?

I don't think there's any other product where this is acceptable - why here? You wouldn't buy a car with a windscreen wiper blade wiping the wrong way, the horn working intermittently and the car jittering along the road and go "ah they'll fix it in 3 months, and to be fair this happened last time I bought a car"... You'd take it straight back!!! Why are the standards not the same here? Just because you can push out an update means you are allowed to be lazy? It doesn't, and it leads to, as OP rightly said, a mess!
 
What other product - I can't think of one - is allowed to be released half baked because "it happens every year" and "will get fixed"?

I don't think there's any other product where this is acceptable - why here? You wouldn't buy a car with a windscreen wiper blade wiping the wrong way, the horn working intermittently and the car jittering along the road and go "ah they'll fix it in 3 months, and to be fair this happened last time I bought a car"... You'd take it straight back!!! Why are the standards not the same here? Just because you can push out an update means you are allowed to be lazy? It doesn't, and it leads to, as OP rightly said, a mess!
When have you really seen bug free software in the world of consumer (or even professional) computing?
 
When have you really seen bug free software in the world of consumer (or even professional) computing?
There's a difference between one or two releases having bugs... then there's having years of the same bugs...
 
There's a difference between one or two releases having bugs... then there's having years of the same bugs...
What software (especially complex large software like an OS) out there just has only a few bugs with one or two releases?
 
What software (especially complex large software like an OS) out there just has only a few bugs with one or two releases?
Probably a lot. I'm talking issues such as alignment and padding of text. Easy stuff that hasn't been fixed throughout iOS 11 beta. What software as popular as iOS do you know of that doesn't take care of that in beta?
 
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